Nightwing and Wonder Woman to possibly be in Man of Steel 2

*CyberCubed* · 11-08-2013, 08:01 PM

So there's been a lot of news stories lately about Wonder Woman and now Nightwing (Dick Grayson) being in Man of Steel 2 alongside Batman/Superman.

Wonder Woman:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...7b2bce12000032

Nightwing:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...an-vs-superman

This is starting to sound more like a Justice League movie than just a Batman/Superman movie.

I think seeing Nightwing in the movie will be awesome, especially since the general population has an aversion to Robin but doesn't dislike Nightwing...even though they're both Dick Grayson.

Wonder Woman being in the movie might be interesting, depending on how she's done.

*Krutch* · 11-08-2013, 08:14 PM

Is it wrong that I'm hoping this movie completely bombs? I'm a DC guy through and through, and Affleck as Batman has me interested, but there is nothing else I like about this DC Universe. Despised Man of Steel. And every little thing I hear screams rush job. Before the Bluray is out we already have a release date, a title, casting, and have already filmed a few sequences. Now we're getting more news of Wonder Woman, Nightwing... like... settle down, WB. Geez.

*Cure* · 11-08-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch

Is it wrong that I'm hoping this movie completely bombs? I'm a DC guy through and through, and Affleck as Batman has me interested, but there is nothing else I like about this DC Universe. Despised Man of Steel. And every little thing I hear screams rush job. Before the Bluray is out we already have a release date, a title, casting, and have already filmed a few sequences. Now we're getting more news of Wonder Woman, Nightwing... like... settle down, WB. Geez.

I don't want it to bomb, but I agree with everything else. Nothing about this feels well thought out.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-08-2013, 09:22 PM

Yeah, it's like they feel like they have to cram EVERYTHING into the next movie just in case the bottom suddenly falls out on this whole super-hero movie fad thing. There's gonna be way too much going on at once for any kind of meaningful story.

Then again, "Man Of Steel" pretty much established that in this new DC movie universe, story comes in a distant second behind fight scenes and such. So I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

*TurtleTitan97* · 11-08-2013, 09:38 PM

Yeah, this movie is already starting to feel pretty crowded.

*CyberCubed* · 11-08-2013, 11:58 PM

So major characters in the movie:

Superman/Clark Kent
Lois Lane
Lex Luthor
Batman
Nightwing (?)
Alfred (?)
Wonder Woman (?)

And that's just for starters.

*NinjaPug* · 11-09-2013, 11:25 AM

There are also rumors that The Flash is in this.

If all of these rumors are true (big if) this movie is starting to look like Iron Man 2. Weak story that was pretty much used as a setup for The Avengers.

This is sounding less like a Supes sequel and more like a setup for JL.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-09-2013, 11:36 AM

agree with Leo in that I think WB are rushing this primarily because the comic book movie fad is starting to burn itself out, at least on their end, as people are a little less pumped for Batman after the Nolan films more or less said "top that motherf*cker", which is impossible at this stage.

Marvel are actually riding the wave sensibly by pouring their efforts into tv/online projects just in case things level off.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 11-09-2013, 01:20 PM

I'm still looking forward to this, but i wish it was just 1 at a time. Maybe have superhero team up movies every once in a while.

No, that sounds like a terrible idea. I do apologise

*chrisdude* · 11-10-2013, 06:41 AM

I agree with the general theme of this thread. I feel like Man of Steel was barely a Superman movie. Like an intro to Superman, or Superman Begins. Now the poor guy may never really get his own movie...

*ObiWanFan4life* · 11-10-2013, 06:54 AM

I think WB is forgetting the main reasons why the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been successful, and I don't just mean how Marvel planned this out and took their time introducing us to their characters, I mean that Marvel movies embrace their silly nature and have fun with it. One big problem I had with Man of Steel is that it was almost embarrassed to be a superhero movie and took itself seriously to try and be more adult.

Another big problem is that unlike Marvel, there's no DC film Studios, no creative control, seperate group of people who fully knows and understands it's heroes.

Luigiperps · 11-10-2013, 11:40 AM

I'm okay with nightwing as he can just be hanging out with batman, but woonderwoman should wait till her own movie.

Leofan26 · 11-10-2013, 04:58 PM

Well in the animated films all the Justice League cast was in them, I mean the newer ones not the older ones. Why do we have so many BatMan / SuperMan crossover flicks? Are the comics that popular? Any ways, I hope NightWing plays a big part in the film if he's in it, I also hope this leads to a NightWing solo flicks in the future

*CyberCubed* · 11-10-2013, 06:57 PM

Nightwing can work in the movie easily, he'd be treated like a sidekick though unlike the leader he is in the comics.

It's basically Robin without the Robin costume. They know most casuals hate Robin and don't take Robin seriously...but call him Nightwing instead and they won't know the difference.

Many casuals don't even know Dick Grayson isn't Robin anymore.

*Brodie* · 11-10-2013, 07:55 PM

I'm sorry, but how has no one mentioned that the guy in talks to play Nightwing is one goofy looking mother ****er?

Really?

*Krutch* · 11-11-2013, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie

I'm sorry, but how has no one mentioned that the guy in talks to play Nightwing is one goofy looking mother ****er?

Really?

For me, it's because it's hard for me to recall the last "is in talks to play so-and-so" that actually happened.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 11-11-2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nightwing can work in the movie easily, he'd be treated like a sidekick though unlike the leader he is in the comics.

It's basically Robin without the Robin costume. They know most casuals hate Robin and don't take Robin seriously...but call him Nightwing instead and they won't know the difference.

Many casuals don't even know Dick Grayson isn't Robin anymore.

The thing is, robin can be done right and can be taken seriously.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-11-2013, 09:44 PM

Agreed, they're just afraid of it. There's a lot to the concept if they'd only try to explore it.

I'm not exactly sure if the idea that Batman and his story will be "joined in progress" in this movie means they won't go backwards in future movies to tell stories that happened earlier on. Part of me wonders if future Batman movies might be kind of like flashbacks, like a "Legends of the Dark Knight" kind of thing. They could make up for skipping over the whole Robin thing, his introduction and graduation to being Nightwing, by showing it in another movie that takes place earlier in the timeline.

Assuming Nightwing really is in this movie, anyways. The hell'd he be doin'? This thing might end up worse than "Smallville" if they're not careful.

*CyberCubed* · 11-12-2013, 12:08 AM

I don't see the problem. We don't need to see Batman rebooted at square one again, this isn't like how Batman Begins had to revive the franchise after Batman and Robin bombed it. The Nolan trilogy isn't that old yet either.

I like starting a new Batman universe where he's already older and experienced, where Dick is already Nightwing, and he's already established. How many times do we have to see Batman at the beginning of his career wear the costumes for the first time, meet Gordon the first time, battle all his enemies the first time, etc?

This is better because people already know Batman's past and don't want to see the same villains over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if when the Batman solo movies start again they avoid using all the villains in the Nolan trilogy simply to not use the same villains over again so soon.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 11-12-2013, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't see the problem. We don't need to see Batman rebooted at square one again, this isn't like how Batman Begins had to revive the franchise after Batman and Robin bombed it. The Nolan trilogy isn't that old yet either.

I like starting a new Batman universe where he's already older and experienced, where Dick is already Nightwing, and he's already established. How many times do we have to see Batman at the beginning of his career wear the costumes for the first time, meet Gordon the first time, battle all his enemies the first time, etc?

This is better because people already know Batman's past and don't want to see the same villains over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if when the Batman solo movies start again they avoid using all the villains in the Nolan trilogy simply to not use the same villains over again so soon.

People are having a problem with this because they are cramming too much into 1 movie, instead of spacing it out.

11-08-2013, 08:01 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Nightwing and Wonder Woman to possibly be in Man of Steel 2 So there's been a lot of news stories lately about Wonder Woman and now Nightwing (Dick Grayson) being in Man of Steel 2 alongside Batman/Superman. Wonder Woman: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...7b2bce12000032 Nightwing: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...an-vs-superman This is starting to sound more like a Justice League movie than just a Batman/Superman movie. I think seeing Nightwing in the movie will be awesome, especially since the general population has an aversion to Robin but doesn't dislike Nightwing...even though they're both Dick Grayson. Wonder Woman being in the movie might be interesting, depending on how she's done.

11-08-2013, 09:38 PM	#5
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Yeah, this movie is already starting to feel pretty crowded. __________________

11-09-2013, 11:36 AM	#8
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	agree with Leo in that I think WB are rushing this primarily because the comic book movie fad is starting to burn itself out, at least on their end, as people are a little less pumped for Batman after the Nolan films more or less said "top that motherfcker", which is impossible at this stage. Marvel are actually riding the wave sensibly by pouring their efforts into tv/online projects just in case things level off. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue* Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-09-2013, 01:20 PM	#9
Whatswiththeheadbands? The Weed of Crime Join Date: May 2013 Location: The Shadow's Sanctum Posts: 3,007	I'm still looking forward to this, but i wish it was just 1 at a time. Maybe have superhero team up movies every once in a while. No, that sounds like a terrible idea. I do apologise __________________ Who knows what Evil lurks in the hearts of Men? The Shadow knows...

11-10-2013, 06:41 AM	#10
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I agree with the general theme of this thread. I feel like Man of Steel was barely a Superman movie. Like an intro to Superman, or Superman Begins. Now the poor guy may never really get his own movie... __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

11-08-2013, 08:14 PM	#2
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	Is it wrong that I'm hoping this movie completely bombs? I'm a DC guy through and through, and Affleck as Batman has me interested, but there is nothing else I like about this DC Universe. Despised Man of Steel. And every little thing I hear screams rush job. Before the Bluray is out we already have a release date, a title, casting, and have already filmed a few sequences. Now we're getting more news of Wonder Woman, Nightwing... like... settle down, WB. Geez.

11-08-2013, 09:22 PM	#4
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, it's like they feel like they have to cram EVERYTHING into the next movie just in case the bottom suddenly falls out on this whole super-hero movie fad thing. There's gonna be way too much going on at once for any kind of meaningful story. Then again, "Man Of Steel" pretty much established that in this new DC movie universe, story comes in a distant second behind fight scenes and such. So I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

11-08-2013, 11:58 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	So major characters in the movie: Superman/Clark Kent Lois Lane Lex Luthor Batman Nightwing (?) Alfred (?) Wonder Woman (?) And that's just for starters.

11-09-2013, 11:25 AM	#7
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	There are also rumors that The Flash is in this. If all of these rumors are true (big if) this movie is starting to look like Iron Man 2. Weak story that was pretty much used as a setup for The Avengers. This is sounding less like a Supes sequel and more like a setup for JL.

11-10-2013, 06:54 AM	#11
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	I think WB is forgetting the main reasons why the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been successful, and I don't just mean how Marvel planned this out and took their time introducing us to their characters, I mean that Marvel movies embrace their silly nature and have fun with it. One big problem I had with Man of Steel is that it was almost embarrassed to be a superhero movie and took itself seriously to try and be more adult. Another big problem is that unlike Marvel, there's no DC film Studios, no creative control, seperate group of people who fully knows and understands it's heroes. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

11-10-2013, 11:40 AM	#12
Luigiperps Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,060	I'm okay with nightwing as he can just be hanging out with batman, but woonderwoman should wait till her own movie. __________________ Why I love Mikey. He looks into the face of a giant, killer, mutant alligator with this face.

11-10-2013, 04:58 PM	#13
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	Well in the animated films all the Justice League cast was in them, I mean the newer ones not the older ones. Why do we have so many BatMan / SuperMan crossover flicks? Are the comics that popular? Any ways, I hope NightWing plays a big part in the film if he's in it, I also hope this leads to a NightWing solo flicks in the future

11-10-2013, 06:57 PM	#14
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Nightwing can work in the movie easily, he'd be treated like a sidekick though unlike the leader he is in the comics. It's basically Robin without the Robin costume. They know most casuals hate Robin and don't take Robin seriously...but call him Nightwing instead and they won't know the difference. Many casuals don't even know Dick Grayson isn't Robin anymore.

11-10-2013, 07:55 PM	#15
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I'm sorry, but how has no one mentioned that the guy in talks to play Nightwing is one goofy looking mother ****er? Really? __________________ Stupendous Monster

11-11-2013, 09:44 PM	#18
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Agreed, they're just afraid of it. There's a lot to the concept if they'd only try to explore it. I'm not exactly sure if the idea that Batman and his story will be "joined in progress" in this movie means they won't go backwards in future movies to tell stories that happened earlier on. Part of me wonders if future Batman movies might be kind of like flashbacks, like a "Legends of the Dark Knight" kind of thing. They could make up for skipping over the whole Robin thing, his introduction and graduation to being Nightwing, by showing it in another movie that takes place earlier in the timeline. Assuming Nightwing really is in this movie, anyways. The hell'd he be doin'? This thing might end up worse than "Smallville" if they're not careful.

11-12-2013, 12:08 AM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I don't see the problem. We don't need to see Batman rebooted at square one again, this isn't like how Batman Begins had to revive the franchise after Batman and Robin bombed it. The Nolan trilogy isn't that old yet either. I like starting a new Batman universe where he's already older and experienced, where Dick is already Nightwing, and he's already established. How many times do we have to see Batman at the beginning of his career wear the costumes for the first time, meet Gordon the first time, battle all his enemies the first time, etc? This is better because people already know Batman's past and don't want to see the same villains over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if when the Batman solo movies start again they avoid using all the villains in the Nolan trilogy simply to not use the same villains over again so soon.