Could The OT Be Brought Back? - Page 2

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 11-15-2013, 05:42 AM

would love to see them back, Maybe a slightly more organized approach, and a tiny bit less goofy, more along the lines of the first 2 seasons.

*MikeandRaph87* · 11-15-2013, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Hmmm, I suppose I shouldn't make another thread that's so similar but this had me thinking- What if instead of an animated series, the same idea was carried over to a comic done by IDW? Not the archie books, but rather OT episodes drawn as a fun book- akin to the current "Animated Adventures" comic.

That was what I thought IDW was going to do originally when it was announced in early 2011. The way it was worded I was convinced it was going to a comic conitnuation like Buffy The Vampire slayer,Dark Shadows,Smallville, and a growing number. So I admit to being a bit skeptical with what we got the first few issues for that reason. We got something great anyway but the comic continuation would be even better. I would be happy for it to continue in that form as the very fact of it continuing at all would be a blessing. After IDW's comic wraps up whenever that may be I do think it is possible IF it is still fashionable to revive popular shows in comic form when that time comes.

*Refractive Reflections* · 11-15-2013, 06:06 AM

Of course having an OT revival would be very exciting

, but I don't know if the tone we grew up on would be carried into this series.

With me, I always felt the "Divide and Conquer" series finale was too abrupt of an ending. Kind of like an unsatisfying, 1-2 page epilogue to a great novel. Plus, there were many storylines the OT had not explored fully and I hope it could follow its continuity and ditch the episodic plots... In fact, it would need to in order to survive in this new cartoon landscape.

In today's cartoon landscape a lot of the humor is more loud, random, and more ill-mannered (flatulence, burping, gross out humor) rather than the witty sarcasm the 80s and 90s humor had (not only in the OT, but in cartoons like Garfield and Tiny Toons). In addition, since this OT revival wouldn't be under the heavy parental criticism of excessive violence as it had experienced in the late 80s and early 90s, it could really expand the action sequences. ...Both for the good and bad. On the good side, we could see more weapon fighting rather than the slapstick food fighting humor of its middle seasons. On the somewhat bad side, the violence could be a slippery slope in adding darker themes to the OT that could make this new tone too unfamiliar to us.

What made the OT shine was having the right voice actors, writing, and other staff that transcended the cartoon and the franchise into an iconic status, and usually trying to replicate that same iconic essence can be extremely difficult.

I'm not going to be a pessimist about it because the OT is what first lured me into the Turtles, but even if the stars aligned just right for a full-fledged executive Nickelodeon business order for a Season 11 or animated film-special, I'm not going to hold my breath since replicating the OT's tone/execution is a monumental feat. Therefore, I don't know if our hopes or expectations would be fully satisfied to make us revisit the effervescent excitement we had for the OT then as kids, and some of us still do now as adults.

I guess one analogy I could use to help explain my position, would be like today's music producers in trying to replicate a past, popular genre of music like... disco, 70s soul music, or 80s glam metal for example.

Even though music producers have a vast, hindsight knowledge of the genre (what worked and what didn't), somehow the few attempted disco, 70s soul, or 80s glam metal songs they make and release today, just doesn't fully capture that sonic vivacious excitement of the genre back in day (putting aside the nostalgia factor).

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 11-15-2013, 06:37 AM

With the new series, I think it would be kind of overkill to have a second TMNT series going. I grew up on the original cartoon and hope that it always finds an audience, but as far as being a regular ongoing series it had its time.

However, a mini-series or animated movie would be cool. Occasionally bring the original toon out of retirement so to speak. A five part story like the first season might be cool.

*BubblyShell22* · 11-15-2013, 07:08 AM

I doubt the OT will have a full revival, but I think a sort of mini-series could work if they could pull it off. Or maybe even a comic book would be cool to see.

Michelangelo · 11-15-2013, 07:20 AM

Well there are 2 TMNT comic series running atm, why not a third?
And then why not a second cartoon? Did Batman ever have 2 cartoon versions playing at the same time that weren't reruns?
It's almost been 30 years and change is inevitable. Batman changed and I can't see him going back to the detective comics look etc. There's no doubt it would be fun but whether it's comics or cartoons I think everything gets it's run and then moves on eventually. They even sell the toys still in stores of the OT, but I can't see that starting a revival, just a reminder of the legacy that is TMNT that's all.
Perhaps an animated comic is the way to go with reviving the OT. I mean it's never been done and what a great place to start with the OT.

pingclang · 11-15-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

However, a mini-series or animated movie would be cool. Occasionally bring the original toon out of retirement so to speak. A five part story like the first season might be cool.

This. I would love to see just a straight to dvd movie of the old guys and maybe give the same treatment to a Mirage TMNT as well. Just something to give fresh ideas on Turtles a chance, not just in comics or the new series.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-15-2013, 10:42 PM

Kinda thought they did that already with IDW and the new cartoon....

*CyberCubed* · 11-15-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Kinda thought they did that already with IDW and the new cartoon....

Are you trying to be clever? Neither one of those is exactly like the OT. Its using some old characters and concepts and doing totally different things with them.

We're talking about the OT being revived exactly as it was.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-16-2013, 01:57 AM

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Are you trying to be clever? Neither one of those is exactly like the OT. Its using some old characters and concepts and doing totally different things with them.

We're talking about the OT being revived exactly as it was.

...yeaaaah... not gonna happen in today's day and age unless they totally amp up the action. As funny as the old show was, an action hero show with lots of comedy and little to no action just won't fly. It needs cool fight scenes, the turtles actually acting like ninjas, awesome new and old characters, and still keep the comedic aspect.... oh wait...

*Candy Kappa* · 11-16-2013, 03:48 AM

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The more I think of it the more I think a comic book style Season 11 would be awesome (What?it worked for Buffy and Smallville.) I don't think Wise is needed, just a talented writer with a firm grasp of the source material.

I think this would be a great idea, Buffy-verse is going strong in the comics and Adam West Batman's comic seems to be doing well.

I'd rather buy a comic of the FW Turtles then the very lackluster color classics

*CyberCubed* · 11-16-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

...yeaaaah... not gonna happen in today's day and age unless they totally amp up the action. As funny as the old show was, an action hero show with lots of comedy and little to no action just won't fly. It needs cool fight scenes, the turtles actually acting like ninjas, awesome new and old characters, and still keep the comedic aspect.... oh wait...

Who said there would be no fight scenes? It would obviously be more like Season 1 or 7 if it were revived now.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-16-2013, 09:14 AM

I think a comic book continuation of the OT would be the way to go. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a "season 11" ala what Smallville and Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics have done. It could also be anthology stories filling in the blanks between existing episodes of the cartoon. Anybody who did the comic would have to have a great knowledge of the show, however. That's actually what I aspired to do with my own fan comic series... of which I've only completed one issue, I'm sorry to say.

*CyberCubed* · 11-16-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I think a comic book continuation of the OT would be the way to go. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a "season 11" ala what Smallville and Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics have done. It could also be anthology stories filling in the blanks between existing episodes of the cartoon. Anybody who did the comic would have to have a great knowledge of the show, however. That's actually what I aspired to do with my own fan comic series... of which I've only completed one issue, I'm sorry to say.

But if IDW were to do it, I think it would be Archie rather than the OT. They're already expressed some interest in it.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-16-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Who said there would be no fight scenes? It would obviously be more like Season 1 or 7 if it were revived now.

Season 1 was ok, but season 7? No. While the slapstick was seriously toned down, the turtles still resorted to using ropes, pulling curtains down on people, and all Raph ever did was throw his Sai. Every. Single. Time. And again, if you want the OT back with awesome fight scenes... there is this show they air every Saturday morning....

*CyberCubed* · 11-16-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Season 1 was ok, but season 7? No. While the slapstick was seriously toned down, the turtles still resorted to using ropes, pulling curtains down on people, and all Raph ever did was throw his Sai. Every. Single. Time. And again, if you want the OT back with awesome fight scenes... there is this show they air every Saturday morning....

LOL, there was still plenty of fighting.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-16-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL, there was still plenty of fighting.

If you wanna call it that... sure. Nothing on the level of the movies or 2K3, or hell, their own arcade game.

Tazi · 11-16-2013, 10:11 AM

Honestly, I loved OT as a kid, but I'd rather have the continuation of 4kids as a cartoon, archie as a comic book, and a direct to dvd movie based on Mirage.
Sadly none of this will happen. Tho at least a comic miniseries based on OT would be reasonable in the future. Hell, even Batman has an ongoing comic based on the Adam West series.
They could also do multiverse crossovers in IDW turtles.

*Donatello19* · 11-16-2013, 10:11 AM

I would watch it...but I don't know how it would turn out. Cartoons are very different these days, and I don't think the OT would work out too good in this day in age. Personally I think I've had enough of the OT turtles for now, with the show ended, Turtles Forever, and references galore in the new show.

*CyberCubed* · 11-16-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

If you wanna call it that... sure. Nothing on the level of the movies or 2K3, or hell, their own arcade game.

Haha, no. Stop it. It was good for the time and I enjoy it when rewatching it on DVD.

11-15-2013, 05:42 AM	#21
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	would love to see them back, Maybe a slightly more organized approach, and a tiny bit less goofy, more along the lines of the first 2 seasons. __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M)

11-15-2013, 06:06 AM	#23
Refractive Reflections Mad Scientist $Refractive Reflections's Avatar$ Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,371	Of course having an OT revival would be very exciting , but I don't know if the tone we grew up on would be carried into this series. With me, I always felt the "Divide and Conquer" series finale was too abrupt of an ending. Kind of like an unsatisfying, 1-2 page epilogue to a great novel. Plus, there were many storylines the OT had not explored fully and I hope it could follow its continuity and ditch the episodic plots... In fact, it would need to in order to survive in this new cartoon landscape. In today's cartoon landscape a lot of the humor is more loud, random, and more ill-mannered (flatulence, burping, gross out humor) rather than the witty sarcasm the 80s and 90s humor had (not only in the OT, but in cartoons like Garfield and Tiny Toons). In addition, since this OT revival wouldn't be under the heavy parental criticism of excessive violence as it had experienced in the late 80s and early 90s, it could really expand the action sequences. ...Both for the good and bad. On the good side, we could see more weapon fighting rather than the slapstick food fighting humor of its middle seasons. On the somewhat bad side, the violence could be a slippery slope in adding darker themes to the OT that could make this new tone too unfamiliar to us. What made the OT shine was having the right voice actors, writing, and other staff that transcended the cartoon and the franchise into an iconic status, and usually trying to replicate that same iconic essence can be extremely difficult. I'm not going to be a pessimist about it because the OT is what first lured me into the Turtles, but even if the stars aligned just right for a full-fledged executive Nickelodeon business order for a Season 11 or animated film-special, I'm not going to hold my breath since replicating the OT's tone/execution is a monumental feat. Therefore, I don't know if our hopes or expectations would be fully satisfied to make us revisit the effervescent excitement we had for the OT then as kids, and some of us still do now as adults. I guess one analogy I could use to help explain my position, would be like today's music producers in trying to replicate a past, popular genre of music like... disco, 70s soul music, or 80s glam metal for example. Even though music producers have a vast, hindsight knowledge of the genre (what worked and what didn't), somehow the few attempted disco, 70s soul, or 80s glam metal songs they make and release today, just doesn't fully capture that sonic vivacious excitement of the genre back in day (putting aside the nostalgia factor). Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 11-15-2013 at 06:54 AM.
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11-15-2013, 07:08 AM	#25
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I doubt the OT will have a full revival, but I think a sort of mini-series could work if they could pull it off. Or maybe even a comic book would be cool to see. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

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11-16-2013, 09:14 AM	#33
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,489	I think a comic book continuation of the OT would be the way to go. It wouldn't necessarily have to be a "season 11" ala what Smallville and Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics have done. It could also be anthology stories filling in the blanks between existing episodes of the cartoon. Anybody who did the comic would have to have a great knowledge of the show, however. That's actually what I aspired to do with my own fan comic series... of which I've only completed one issue, I'm sorry to say. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

11-15-2013, 06:37 AM	#24
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	With the new series, I think it would be kind of overkill to have a second TMNT series going. I grew up on the original cartoon and hope that it always finds an audience, but as far as being a regular ongoing series it had its time. However, a mini-series or animated movie would be cool. Occasionally bring the original toon out of retirement so to speak. A five part story like the first season might be cool.

11-15-2013, 07:20 AM	#26
Michelangelo Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 244	Well there are 2 TMNT comic series running atm, why not a third? And then why not a second cartoon? Did Batman ever have 2 cartoon versions playing at the same time that weren't reruns? It's almost been 30 years and change is inevitable. Batman changed and I can't see him going back to the detective comics look etc. There's no doubt it would be fun but whether it's comics or cartoons I think everything gets it's run and then moves on eventually. They even sell the toys still in stores of the OT, but I can't see that starting a revival, just a reminder of the legacy that is TMNT that's all. Perhaps an animated comic is the way to go with reviving the OT. I mean it's never been done and what a great place to start with the OT.

11-16-2013, 10:11 AM	#38
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	Honestly, I loved OT as a kid, but I'd rather have the continuation of 4kids as a cartoon, archie as a comic book, and a direct to dvd movie based on Mirage. Sadly none of this will happen. Tho at least a comic miniseries based on OT would be reasonable in the future. Hell, even Batman has an ongoing comic based on the Adam West series. They could also do multiverse crossovers in IDW turtles. __________________

11-16-2013, 10:11 AM	#39
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	I would watch it...but I don't know how it would turn out. Cartoons are very different these days, and I don't think the OT would work out too good in this day in age. Personally I think I've had enough of the OT turtles for now, with the show ended, Turtles Forever, and references galore in the new show.