Would you rather the series end early or...

[Andrew NDB]

Would you rather see the series end early at a pre-determined time and be given a proper, well-led into and crafted and satisfying ending or...

... would you prefer to see the series go on as long as possible, possibly getting cancelled between seasons and never getting any kind of an ending, satisfying or not?

[Cure]

End with an actual ending. I have no idea why anyone would want it to go on for so long.

[Casey]

This is a no brainer. Especially if you care about the property and anyone on this forum obviously does.

[Jester]

I guess my only question is what you call "early"? As long as the last season is known to be the last season they could run 3 years or 13 and still have an actual ending.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by Jester

I guess my only question is what you call "early"? As long as the last season is known to be the last season they could run 3 years or 13 and still have an actual ending.

Yeah there ya go dude. Don't get me started on all the kickbutt shows that have gotten canceled out of the clear blue over the last few years with no satisfying endings. I hope I get to have my cake and eat it too with this show, however. It should last a pretty good while and have an epic yet satisfying ending. Perhaps this one will go on for a long time since Nick has been intelligent regarding renewing it so far. I wanna say I read or heard somewhere recently that Siro said they already had an ending mapped out in case it wasn't renewed for a 4th season.

[ToTheNines]

Proper ending for sure. We've all grown attached to this show, but as TMNT fans we've all gotta know by now that it doesn't go away long and there's probably always gonna be a comic book series going on.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jester

I guess my only question is what you call "early"?

"Early" meaning at any point in time voluntarily prior to any kind of dip in ratings or toy sales or whatever would otherwise cause the network to have to pull it off the air involuntarily.

[victory_angel]

I don't particularly want this story to end. But as all things must come to an end, eventually I want the ending to be something good. Even if it just ends on Casey and April wedding and subtitles of each character and what they went on to do.

Such as: Donatello and April became the founders O'Neil Technical Institute...


Leonardo joined the United Nations as part of the new Mutant Delegation.

Michaelangelo becomes a reknown pizza chef known for his creative pizzas.

Raph and Casey start an organization where they teach troubled inner city youth to use how to channel their anger in non-violent ways.

[CyberCubed]

I think Ciro Niele would definitely know ahead of time if Nick was pulling the plug on the series. It's highly doubtful the show would get canceled on a major cliffhanger for example. Nick owns TMNT 100% and this is their own creation, they're not going to screw it over even when its no longer profitable.

[Shark_Blade]

10 years down the road.

[Electric]

closed ending for sure. nothing upset me more than teen titans stopping right where it did. id like to know ahead of time when the last season is, and want the last episode to be closing

[CyberCubed]

The Young Justice cartoon ended on the worst cliffhanger in superhero cartoon history. Vandal Savage and Darkseid make some kind of deal to take over the Earth, and the show simply ends right there.

[shuriken]

^^ Glad I never got into that show then...
Preemptive ending sounds good.
Do we really want a repeat of 2K3?

[Bossa Nova]

Personally, I'd be pretty okay if it ended at Season 3. I've had my fill of this particular generation.

[Ninja Tiptup]

What would be the end for this Ninja Turtles exactly? Complete defeat of the the Kra'ang and The Foot? Splinter re-united with Miwa? Society becomes aware of the existence of the turtles and they get to the point where they can live among the rest of the populace?

Here's the thing though, life goes on. Defeating all the bad guys doesn't mean the story is over. You can really only get to the point where the story is no longer interesting enough to keep telling.

The best you can hope for is a truly epic show-down to go out on a bang.

If Teen Titans had ended on episode 64 instead of 65, that would have felt as complete as it probably ever could have been. Ending with the sudden return of Terra who doesn't act like she know's who Beast Boy is just left a bad taste in most people's mouths as the place where the show ended.

It's not like Samurai Jack where the goal is to return to the past and defeat Aku freeing the past and the future of his evil.

It's not even like Fast Forward (not yet another time travel story) in which the goal was to get back to the past but lets ponder a moment on how satisfying the conclusion to the 2K3 TMNT was. Even without factoring in Turtles Forever which was a shell of a note to go out on, the third season ends with a major defeat of The Shredder but Karai and Hun are still around in season 4 along with the mutation outbreak and the season ends with the finale of the mutation situation (see what I did there?) before bringing in the demon Shredder story line for season 5. At the end of season 5 the demon Shredder has been defeated after a big final showdown. The Foot clan still exists, Bishop, Baxter and some other antagonists are still around. There's always going to be something else to come along to keep the Turtles from living in peace right?

So what's end game for this Ninja Turtles? They could have actually tied up just about everything in season 1's finale if Shredder was defeated, Karai re-united with Splinter, Leatherhead did or didn't come back from Dimension X and The Kra'ang were sent back to Dimension X. Instead the main loose end that is tied up is they saved April's father but we saw how long that lasted.

Would they have to go to Dimension X and defeat the Kra'ang there?

If you treat these characters as if they have actual lives the story doesn't end when there's no more danger but more importantly danger can come around any corner.

So after all of that my thoughts are that they should end it how Ciro wants to end it but they can always leave it open for more adventures while book-ending the chapter. I just don't want them to end it abruptly leaving several non-status-quo plot lines to resolve.

We know they're working on season 3. 78 episodes would be a good run but reaching 100 would be nice. Just don't end it with too many things hanging in the balance and the way the show has been written so far makes it pretty easy to end the story on a high note.

[Drose18]

Originally Posted by Jester

I guess my only question is what you call "early"? As long as the last season is known to be the last season they could run 3 years or 13 and still have an actual ending.

I went with long because i dont want just three seasons i want at least 7

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

be given a proper, well-led into and crafted and satisfying ending or...

... would you prefer to see the series go on as long as possible

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

yea where is the "both" option!! XD
....cause I'm a little split...

I want it to end well....but I want alot of stories too!!

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Ninja Tiptup

What would be the end for this Ninja Turtles exactly? Complete defeat of the the Kra'ang and The Foot? Splinter re-united with Miwa? Society becomes aware of the existence of the turtles and they get to the point where they can live among the rest of the populace?

Here's the thing though, life goes on. Defeating all the bad guys doesn't mean the story is over. You can really only get to the point where the story is no longer interesting enough to keep telling.

The best you can hope for is a truly epic show-down to go out on a bang.

If Teen Titans had ended on episode 64 instead of 65, that would have felt as complete as it probably ever could have been. Ending with the sudden return of Terra who doesn't act like she know's who Beast Boy is just left a bad taste in most people's mouths as the place where the show ended.

It's not like Samurai Jack where the goal is to return to the past and defeat Aku freeing the past and the future of his evil.

It's not even like Fast Forward (not yet another time travel story) in which the goal was to get back to the past but lets ponder a moment on how satisfying the conclusion to the 2K3 TMNT was. Even without factoring in Turtles Forever which was a shell of a note to go out on, the third season ends with a major defeat of The Shredder but Karai and Hun are still around in season 4 along with the mutation outbreak and the season ends with the finale of the mutation situation (see what I did there?) before bringing in the demon Shredder story line for season 5. At the end of season 5 the demon Shredder has been defeated after a big final showdown. The Foot clan still exists, Bishop, Baxter and some other antagonists are still around. There's always going to be something else to come along to keep the Turtles from living in peace right?

So what's end game for this Ninja Turtles? They could have actually tied up just about everything in season 1's finale if Shredder was defeated, Karai re-united with Splinter, Leatherhead did or didn't come back from Dimension X and The Kra'ang were sent back to Dimension X. Instead the main loose end that is tied up is they saved April's father but we saw how long that lasted.

Would they have to go to Dimension X and defeat the Kra'ang there?

If you treat these characters as if they have actual lives the story doesn't end when there's no more danger but more importantly danger can come around any corner.

So after all of that my thoughts are that they should end it how Ciro wants to end it but they can always leave it open for more adventures while book-ending the chapter. I just don't want them to end it abruptly leaving several non-status-quo plot lines to resolve.

We know they're working on season 3. 78 episodes would be a good run but reaching 100 would be nice. Just don't end it with too many things hanging in the balance and the way the show has been written so far makes it pretty easy to end the story on a high note.

never thought about that but yeah, had teen titans ended one earlier, it would have been fine. but the next episode intro ing to the planned next episodes just ruined it when they were cancelled.


and i agree that there really is no "end".

for the series to have closure while still being open to the future, for me, the shredder would have to be defeated in some way shape or form, whether he can return or not could be up in the air. the kraang would have to be eliminated from earth. to me, ending it with them still here isnt really ending it, because then they still pose a current threat, and since they started it all, the mutating, the turtles meeting april, the invasion, to just leaving them here wouldnt feel complete, like there is still something to accomplish. i also think the mutants would need some closure. either the retro mutagen to cure them, or living in another dimension or whatever, but leaving the handful of mutants, with more to come, roaming the city would still feel like theres more to accomplish with this segment of the show. again just my opinion, but this is what i would think as "closure" without completely closing off this series

[Gwydion]

Eh, I'm so used to bad endings by now, they don't much bother me anymore. I want it to last as long as it's good. If it stops being good early, end it. If it manages to stay good a long time but just isn't pulling in the ratings and they have to end it at a bad spot? Oh well. Been there before. So I guess I'd go the second option if I had to choose.