2014 "officially licensed" movie turtles costume for this Halloween :(

[Allio]

Originally Posted by hitmonkey

Well, that certainly looks terrible. Also wondering how they found someone willing to give him that tattoo on his left arm. Is Donnie now a skilled tattoo artist?

Could of done it prison-style

[Filespit]

As a couple of people have already stated, this looks suspicously photoshopped. I am going to take this with a pinch of salt and wait for some real pictures of the turtles. However, if the final design looks anywhere near this I am considering boycotting the movie alltogether!

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Filespit

As a couple of people have already stated, this looks suspicously photoshopped. I am going to take this with a pinch of salt and wait for some real pictures of the turtles. However, if the final design looks anywhere near this I am considering boycotting the movie alltogether!

It is absolutely crazy-pants that, if nothing in regards to the actual approach or content of this movie thus far had put you off (which would be fair), this design would.

But you'll see it opening night either way.

Can we get real on what possesses fans to say things like this? I've never understood it. The whole, "X is different from X so I'm going to boycott it!" type of mentality. Not just, "Hm, I don't think I like this version," or anything more nuanced. And it's always over the smallest, least important things.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Cipher

Hey, so, you guys?

The Turtles might have something resembling lips because you absolutely need those muscles to make any sounds remotely resembling English phonemes.

In cartoons, you can get away with lip-sync because it doesn't need to look realistic. The Nicktoons models can be flat-faced and lipless all day long because, at the end of the day, as long as their mouth makes a vaguely convincing shape that corresponds to the correct sound, you'll buy that it's what they're saying.

In a "realistic" movie, that doesn't quite fly. You need those muscles there because, if we're to accept that these mutant, humanoid Turtles created through alien science are capable of speaking our language, they need them. And we've never had anything close to resembling an actual attempt at lip-sync in a live-action Turtle film before.

So, yeah, sorry. Lips. Pick another horse to beat. And I'm all aboard the "beak-faced, Zulli-esque monstrosity" train for any future incarnation that wants to ride it. It's just that, not only is this not a bad alternative, it actually makes more sense.

Also, he has nostrils so he can breathe? I'm not even sure why that's an issue.

The new series your referring too is animated, and so are the turtles in this movie, so what's the difference? Cause its on the big screen they need lips? Both turtles are made from a computer. So why lips?

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

The new series your referring too is animated, and so are the turtles in this movie, so what's the difference? Cause its on the big screen they need lips? Both turtles are made from a computer. So why lips?

Because one is set among real actors and sets, attempting to simulate a wholly live-action experience and the other is a cartoon?

Also, are you serious/do you understand the concept of simulacrum at all?

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Cipher

Also, are you serious/do you understand the concept of simulacrum at all?

Better yet, ask him to define it.

It looks fine to me. Makes me excited to see the others.

[bridgegrn]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

So their close are real the photo shopped on so your say the actors were naked and the photo skipped there clothes on and it looked terrible lol sorry I do not agree are we looking at the same thing Cuz what I see looks laughable at best in terms of photo shop quality alone not something I would see made for something as high budget as this

Believe whatever you want

[Blossombrooks]

I think it's possibly to reflect the actor more than speech process. Looking back to those pics of Doc Connors the cgi, live action hash usually carries some glimmer of the human behind the role. I don't know why..maybe so the public identifies with the actor? Anyhow, Noel Fisher has fairly distinctive lips and this could be (an albeit poor) representation of them.

[1984TMNT]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Those aren't just breathing holes. That's a legit nose. A forreal-forreal nose. With lips. Look at the Nick costumes, they don't have that.

Embrace it, y'all.

I'm certainly not going to embrace that. And why is his head so big and bulbous at the top? I seriously can not stop laughing at this.

[1984TMNT]

Originally Posted by Cipher

Because one is set among real actors and sets, attempting to simulate a wholly live-action experience and the other is a cartoon?

Also, are you serious/do you understand the concept of simulacrum at all?

Sorry - don't buy it. The '90 TMNT movie was set among live actors and I bought them talking - still do. The original movie and a lot of it's affects still hold up today, which is saying a lot.....and the lip syncing was off in a lot of scenes. To say the CGI turtles in this movie HAVE to have lips to be believable is ridiculous.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

Sorry - don't buy it. The '90 TMNT movie was set among live actors and I bought them talking.....and the lip syncing was off in a lot of scenes. To say the CGI turtles in this movie HAVE to have lips to be believable is ridiculous.

So ... yes? That's exactly what I'm saying.

The '90s movies could kind of get away with it because the Turtles were practical effects. The same level of leeway in facial realism on a CGI model would look all kinds of cartoony. Those lips are, quite simply, part of the kind of facial structure the Turtles would have to have in real life were they to speak fluent English. It's something I hadn't really considered prior to this design surfacing, but it's totally true.

[1984TMNT]

Originally Posted by Cipher

So we're totally on the same page then?

The '90s movies could kind of get away with it because the Turtles were practical effects. The same level of leeway in facial realism on a CGI model would look all kinds of cartoony.

No, we're not on the same page. I think they could easily make the mouth move in the exact way it needs to without "puffed" out lips. Just because in reality, an animal would need full on lips to pronounce English words doesn't mean those same lips need to be shown or rendered exactly the same way.

The point is that these are mutants and don't need to look exactly like humans, even when talking. As you stated earlier, as long as their mouth moves in generaly accepted motions that coincide with certain words, it would be believable enough.

Obviously, we have different opinions on it - and it really is hard to tell without actual visuals to compare. It's a subjective call at best.

[TurtleMikey]

After a few hours of being in full on meltdown mode, I have calmed down.

And on that note, I must say......... this isn't that bad.

Actually, it's pretty good, and it's definitely unique.

I must applaud Jonathan Liebesman and Co. for pulling off a more humanoid, or rather, more realistic look that isn't totally creepy looking, like some of the fan art we've seen created over the years. After seeing many humanoid variations over the years, I can honestly say that this could've been much, much worst.

Honestly, if you were to take away the nose and the more noticable lips, its REALLY not that different than other designs. And huge thumbs up for the texture on the rest of his body. That little detail is very nice. Hopefully its featured on the heads as well.

Now, as far as the clothing is concerned....... that's not that bad either. And like the head design, it's no where near as bad as it could have been. I, personally, like the clothes. I feel they fit nicely.

The only things about this design that I don't like, from what we can see from this costume, is the 'Next Mutation' like shell (or at least, that's what it reminds ME of) and what appears to be a tattoo on his left arm. Though, the design of the tattoo is definitely cool, so it at least has that going for it.


So for now, I'll give this design a 7.5.

Almost gave it an 8, but that godforsaken tattoo bothers me too much.

[CyberCubed]

They're disgusting human faces on green heads. They might as well have been mutated from humans now.

I get the feeling this is leading to Megan Fox and Raphael having a make-out scene. If you thought the Donnie crush in Nick was bad, this is going to take it to all new levels.

GODDAMN

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They're disgusting human faces on green heads. They might as well have been mutated from humans now.

I get the feeling this is leading to Megan Fox and Raphael having a make-out scene. If you thought the Donnie crush in Nick was bad, this is going to take it to all new levels.

GODDAMN

ya know what?? bring on the Raph and April! all your talk about it has actually gotten me excited for it.

no XD but seriously....just because they are humanoid, doesn't mean a girl like April wants to kiss a mutant turtle. I'm just saying.

so don't worry about it.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I get the feeling this is leading to Megan Fox and Raphael having a make-out scene. If you thought the Donnie crush in Nick was bad, this is going to take it to all new levels.

GODDAMN

Again, you are the only one bringing this up, I really think you want to see that!

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by TurtleTron

Again, you are the only one bringing this up, I really think you want to see that!

In other threads too. I'd be disappointed if it was really the case.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Originally Posted by TurtleTron

Again, you are the only one bringing this up, I really think you want to see that!

Closeted furry, mayhaps?

Kidding!

[xChri5x]

The head looks longer than the real thing because the mask has to fit snug on the persons face causing it to narrow. The real deal will probably be a bit wider which gives it a much better look:

[Filespit]

Originally Posted by Cipher

It is absolutely crazy-pants that, if nothing in regards to the actual approach or content of this movie thus far had put you off (which would be fair), this design would.

But you'll see it opening night either way.

Well, it ain't crazy-pants I can tell you, I was put off a long time ago for those very reasons! However I am still holding hope that the turtles will look awesome, so that's what I meant when I said I was gonna take it (this awful design) with a pinch of salt. So to make it a bit clearer; if the turtles' design will look anywhere near this, above the already awful and off-putting content, then I will consider boycotting this movie.

Originally Posted by Cipher

Can we get real on what possesses fans to say things like this? I've never understood it. The whole, "X is different from X so I'm going to boycott it!" type of mentality. Not just, "Hm, I don't think I like this version," or anything more nuanced. And it's always over the smallest, least important things.

You know, I don't have a problem with them doing a new TMNT movie, not at all. But when they stay away completely from the concept, screw up the story, hire overpaid worthless actors and give us crappy designs like this one I think we have enough reasons to boycott it!