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Yeah, that's where I've watched it. Good to know that I've been doing it right. I love Kummings' work too. So what did you think of Dorian Harewood's Shredder? You can hear it in Bye Bye Fly, Shredderville, and I wanna say The Making of Metalhead. Kummings' Shredder is a little different to me but not too bad.
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It's just odd that they wrote and set up very carefully the European Vacation in such a way and then they threw it all out the window continuity wise. I think in my review of all seasons thread I explain it a little bit better but basically in each episode they have this convoluted explanation of why they're there that contradicts the already perfect explanation given at first and all it does is confuse the audience even if they watch it as a stand alone episode, a simple "we're in our European vacation" explanation line would have sufficed but instead we get a convoluted one that confuses kids and contradicts established canon.
I think I tried to find some logical explanation for the continuity goofs during this season, but does anyone in this thread want to give it a shot and explain all inconsistencies? Edit: Here was my opinion of the season when I watched it for the first time from my Review of all seasons thread: Quote: Finished with the European vacation episodes and apparently the worst the series has to offer, but I really don't think it's that bad. Sure a lot of episodes are lackluster but the whole fact that they weren't in NY made the episodes much more special. Continuity is a bit weird, the first episode starts by re-telling the events from the previous episode but with some retcons like the prize including 5 tickets instead of 4, some other continuity problems are Shredder isn't shocked to see the turtles in the first episode in France but is in the second. I guess the episodes could've happened concurrently? And maybe they realized they had one more ticket a few seconds later? I wish they had put more effort in explaining why Shredder/Krang/April kept being at the same place as the turtles, instead of explaining every episode as pure coincidence something much simpler could've been mentioned in the beginning like April is going on tour and the turtles want to follow her or she's part of the tour or something, and have Shredder/Krang want something the turtles have or some reason to have them follow them. Some sort of story arc could've easily been sneaked into the episodes to make them flow better, especially since this was a "sideseason" why couldn't they add some continuity...A finale for the season would've also been greatly appreciated. I'm really curious as to why this sideseason was made, it seems pretty clear there was some sort of reason. It almost borderlines as Edutainment, trying to teach you about European culture, though not really enough for me to think it's the reason they made it. It just seems random, not to mention it would also explain why Shredder/Krang were in so many of them, the ones who wanted this season to be produced wanted the main villains in most episodes. Odd in the age of the internet we don't really know why this was made. I actually really enjoyed some episodes quite a bit, I loved the whole fact that this was in Europe and made this feel more epic than it should be. I really enjoyed artless, the atlantis episode, the thor episode and the first two Paris episodes. |
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I think CyberCubed and sdp hit the important parts.
The most noticeable off-beat aspect of the European Vacation sideseason is Rob Paulsen's alternate voice. It contrast too much after we've been so accustomed to Paulsen's iconic voice with OT Raphael, especially with the alternate's voice being more nasal. It made Raphael's humor fall flat because of the lack of vocal fluctuations in sarcasm, imitations, and comedic timing, unlike with Paulsen who was able to pull them off exceptionally well. Then as sdp said above, the continuity made the sideseason very "choppy" by bouncing all over the place. For example, it was suddenly winter in the Alps and then the next episodes take place during substantially warmer times of the year. The ideas of integrating the Turtles' adventures into European history were good, but there needed to be something to tie it all up as to why Shredder and Krang wanted to pursue their crimes at Europe (i.e. steal European treasures to threaten NATO. Something like that I guess... Nevertheless though I enjoy them, but its the most difficult to marathon through though. |
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Yeah, I just see it as, "Well at least we got 13 more episodes of the OT universe" and so forth.
I mean its still more episodes of the show. |
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I never actually watched the Europe vacation episodes, are they actually that bad?
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One of the lesser points of the show as a whole, but hey, don't let that stop you from checking 'em out for yourself. Mileage can and will vary with these eps, for sure.
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Yup. That's the one. When they found Excalibur and Shredder was trying to steal it. As if he could ever wield it..... That's a Paladin's LG Defender +5 sword, in D&D- in other words, an "evil" person would get seriously burned just TOUCHING that thing, LOL!!! (I'm both a player and a DM, have been for years. If the sword in the cartoon was anything like most other fantasy versions, Shredder would never be able to use it- he's "not worthy".....)
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Neat bit of trivia there, ducky. Very interesting info.
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Haha
Anger and intolerance are the enimies of proper understanding. You're looking through biased because I don't get a hard on for your nick series.
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I'm convinced you're so stupid that you don't even realize how stupid you are.
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Well lets see what stage we're at
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I'll be winning shortly
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