Official Movie Poster

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

It's quite clear they are more concerned with the toys. So, like the old cartoon, the movie will be a massive toy advert for parents to buy for their kids after the movie ends.

Originally Posted by Leo656

What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..."

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.

I feel the same. I'm both dreading the film and looking forward to it. If I like it, I'll be surprised. If I dont, well then... oh well. I gave Dragonball Evolution a chance in theaters, knowing it be bad but not knowing just HOW bad. Last Airbender looked good from the trailers but was really... gross in it's full length.
That's where trailers make or break the movie. Or, really, any marketing.
Some posters dipect a movie's tone and "story" better than the movie does. Sometimes trailers show the best, most exciting stuff from the film and the actual movie falls on itself.

I love, and own, several movies that a general audience hates. I dont care. I loved them for what they are. It's even more fun when the clerk questions my purchases. Speed Racer and RIPD, both on BluRay, for example. Why am I wasting my money, I would be asked. And to buy them in HD?
Because, although not perfect movies, there are parts I enjoy enough to watch the movies again.
The Dark Knight Rises and Man Of Steel; two more movies I often see mentioned, even here on the 'Drome. Generally it seems these movies are disliked and tarnish a franchise. I think both are great films.

Originally Posted by thebrownranger

Only part of the poster I'm liking is Leonardo. Not sure if someone pointed it out, but it looks like Donnie is gonna be using a metal bo-staff.

I was pointing out a few things. The Staff was something I noted but didn't see anyone mention. Maybe it's something he created?
I think I'm still the only one to point out the kanji on Don's bandana tails.

[Leo656]

My personal default is to neck-punch anyone who questions Speed Racer. How so many people entirely missed the point on that one hurts me deeply. It's the most accurate cartoon-to-film adaptation ever made, essentially being a live-action cartoon all by itself. And it was so much Stupid Fun from beginning to end, that even what I wanted to hate - Mach 6 over the Mach 5 in all but one scene - I couldn't. I went out the very next day and got the Mach 5 tattoo. Other than Inspector Detector's accent, I wouldn't change a damn thing. They made exactly what a Speed Racer movie should be. Change even one thing, make it even a little more serious or ground it even one tiny bit in "reality", you unravel the entire thing. "Speed Racer" has a decades-long tradition of being the silliest, dumbest, most over-the-top batsh*t crazy thing you'd ever see, and I for one embrace that the movie was absolutely nothing more, or less, than the cartoon come to life. It was perfect. Specifically because, they didn't try to turn it into something it wasn't.

If some nitwit clerk ever questioned my DVD purchases, I'd leave. Especially if they try in the same breath to get me to pre-order some other POS. Game store clerks do that sooo much. I hate when I have to tell them I already own Big Game X and am specifically looking for something more niche and obscure. These people are ostensibly there to take a person's money in exchange for goods and services, not give commentary on personal taste.

[Universal_Adam]

Originally Posted by Leo656

What's funny to me is, when people said they hated that Bay and Fox were involved, a lot of others said "We have nothing else to go on, let's wait." Then, we got some set pics, and some people didn't love them, and others said "This still tells us nothing, let's wait." So then we got some questionable cast/story news, and people said "we still haven't seen the Turtles, let's wait." So then, we get a look at the Turtles and Shredder, and when some people don't like them, a few others say, "We still need to see a poster..." Then we get a poster, and people are like, "Well, it's not the *official* poster," or, "Well, we need to see them in motion..."

If the movie ends up pleasing me, I'll say I liked it. But at the same time, I bet if it does suck, certain folks are gonna be like, "Well, maybe we still need to wait for the Director's Cut before we make a decision." The blind faith and desperate want/need to like the movie is puzzling, to me.

As if we can't already tell enough by NOW, as individuals, to form a preliminary opinion. A few months ago, I would have agreed. But we've seen enough in just the last week to say, Yes, some people are entirely justified in thinking they won't like it.

That said, I wanted to hate Man of Steel and I just couldn't. So ya never know.

Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by Universal_Adam

Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

No it will definitely be the nostrils that ruin this movie. LOL.

[Leo656]

I still think nostrils and lips are the least of it. Maybe because I was prepared for them, but they don't jump out at me the way Donnie's overall horrid design does. There's way more wrong than the faces. They look a little "off", as do the bodies - particularly Raphael's "Hulked-Out" look - but it's the rest of it, the completely unnecessary "Image Comics 1993 X-Treme 2 Tha Max" outfit designs that kill it for me.

Variant figures in the toy line, sure, go for it. They'd be okay for that. But even then, they almost look more like stuff Playmates rejected.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82

Yea, Raphael's full head bandana is what bothers me the most. And then the extra gear they are wearing is the second offense.

I'm thinking it's more like a do-rag...

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

You've expressed your view and metephorical heigharchy that everyone on here must have the same view, and the only ones that matter have the same view as you. Your narcissistic views and false sense of superiority can only be surpassed by powders sophomoric jests about the mentally handicapped people.

I think his point was that... those guys (you included) really don't bring anything "new" to a discussion on the subject.
Broken records.
You on the Nick show, I can pretty much assume any post you make is meant to bash whatever is being discussed. Thus: Not adding anything more than repeating yourself.
BTW: Run spell check over those words. metaphorical, hierarchy.

Originally Posted by Leo656

My personal default is to neck-punch anyone who questions Speed Racer. How so many people entirely missed the point on that one hurts me deeply. It's the most accurate cartoon-to-film adaptation ever made, essentially being a live-action cartoon all by itself. And it was so much Stupid Fun from beginning to end, that even what I wanted to hate - Mach 6 over the Mach 5 in all but one scene - I couldn't. I went out the very next day and got the Mach 5 tattoo. Other than Inspector Detector's accent, I wouldn't change a damn thing. They made exactly what a Speed Racer movie should be. Change even one thing, make it even a little more serious or ground it even one tiny bit in "reality", you unravel the entire thing. "Speed Racer" has a decades-long tradition of being the silliest, dumbest, most over-the-top batsh*t crazy thing you'd ever see, and I for one embrace that the movie was absolutely nothing more, or less, than the cartoon come to life. It was perfect. Specifically because, they didn't try to turn it into something it wasn't.

If some nitwit clerk ever questioned my DVD purchases, I'd leave. Especially if they try in the same breath to get me to pre-order some other POS. Game store clerks do that sooo much. I hate when I have to tell them I already own Big Game X and am specifically looking for something more niche and obscure. These people are ostensibly there to take a person's money in exchange for goods and services, not give commentary on personal taste.

Exactly. The movie bombed and got horrible reviews and I just wonder... what were they expecting? And then I had people tell me that I should see it while on acid or 'shrooms or whatever. Nope, sorry. No point and that's just stupid.
I totally agree with your reflection on Speed Racer. I bought it on DVD and got my hands on the 2-disc store exclusive on DVD too. Once I upgraded to BluRay I kept the 2-disc and traded out the original DVD... which I kinda wish I didn't 'cus in the end, it only amounted for $1-2 in trade-in credit at Zia :-/ Oh well.
I thought Inspector Detector's accent was awesome and interesting. I had no problems with him. I felt Sprittle and Chim-Chim should have been "cut down" in a few areas, and the "turd" lines... but overall, nothing to break the movie for me.
John Goodman was perfect and Susan Sarandon needed more screen time but played her part well enough.

My fav sequence by far are the Casa Cristo race in the Mach 5.

I also own the soundtrack score and the single by "Ali Dee"... 'cus those were stupid fun too.
I buy it anyway. **** the haters lol I buy it proudly and support my interests, not the "know it all clerk". Sometimes the clerk is supportive but I know there are a number of buys where they question the choice.

Originally Posted by Universal_Adam

Maybe some people would just rather see a movie before trashing it. Perhaps some of us aren't willing to call a movie garbage based on things like nostrils, glasses and tattoos.

That's just how I see it.

That's a totally different approach than the last 16 pages of this topic (not counting the others) have shown.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I still think nostrils and lips are the least of it. Maybe because I was prepared for them, but they don't jump out at me the way Donnie's overall horrid design does. There's way more wrong than the faces. They look a little "off", as do the bodies - particularly Raphael's "Hulked-Out" look - but it's the rest of it, the completely unnecessary "Image Comics 1993 X-Treme 2 Tha Max" outfit designs that kill it for me.

Variant figures in the toy line, sure, go for it. They'd be okay for that. But even then, they almost look more like stuff Playmates rejected.

I want to like them more... I keep going back and looking at them... but, really... there is something off.
Enough that I have read different people responding back saying "my kid cried at the design".
I think some of the designs would be cool, but strip the rest of it back. Donnie with goggles? Cool. I can live with that. But the rest of the stuff? Tapped glasses? No thanks (again, I'll point out that neither Mike or Raph have broken glasses thus debunking an earlier theory that Don fit his glasses for his mutant turtle head shape.)

This is very early 90s "Extreme"... and most of that stuff didn't live out to the latter half of the decade.


EDIT:
I found this on another site, But I really like these designs.

They are familiar while adding a few new touches. Mikey's look is funny, keepy the shoes from the current look and wearing a "My name is" sticker.

But, again, I will watch this movie and I will reserve judgement until the credits roll. If I enjoy it: awesome. I'll watch it again and support it.
If it's garbage, at least there are successful cartoons and 3 previous movies I enjoy (I'll give you a hint, it's not TMNT 3 included in that).
I really liked Bad Boys 2, if it can be anywhere in that "tone" or pace or sense of action... it be nice.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

I want to like them more... I keep going back and looking at them... but, really... there is something off.
Enough that I have read different people responding back saying "my kid cried at the design".
I think some of the designs would be cool, but strip the rest of it back. Donnie with goggles? Cool. I can live with that. But the rest of the stuff? Tapped glasses? No thanks (again, I'll point out that neither Mike or Raph have broken glasses thus debunking an earlier theory that Don fit his glasses for his mutant turtle head shape.)

This is very early 90s "Extreme"... and most of that stuff didn't live out to the latter half of the decade.

It's funny how this Donatello could devise any type of abstract scientific gadget, but yet can't even fix his own glasses (which is why I'm assuming it's taped), make a pair that fits, or at least make contacts (considering he's going to be ninja fighting).

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

EDIT:
I found this on another site, But I really like these designs.
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9c6d3ce.jpg

Now those designs I could get behind, they have the right light touch of their personalities.

[Leo656]

Good Gawd was Goodman beyond perfect in that movie. And Good Gawd, were Sarandon's jugs spectacular in that movie (I'm kinda into older chicks, and by "kinda" I mean "Very"). I could have used more Ricci/Trixie, for sure, and a little less Spritle/Chim-Chim, but the rest was soooo gooood. How would drugs improve that movie in any way?

And I didn't hate Detector's accent, but I wasn't expecting it. We got Snake Oiler and the GRX and Ambiguously Gay Sparky. What in the hell more can anyone ask? Totally watching it this weekend, thanks buddy.

"More like a NON-ja. TERRIBLE what passes for a Ninja these days..."

[snooz]

I don't know where else to put this but it really isn't worth a new thread… I just noticed that the tag line for this movie has changed on IMDB

It now says "Cowabunga comes back"

that is in place of the old description which was 'aliens invade earth and inadvertently spawn a quartet of mutant turtles who rise up against them to defend the planet' ...or something to that effect.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

It's funny how this Donatello could devise any type of abstract scientific gadget, but yet can't even fix his own glasses (which is why I'm assuming it's taped), make a pair that fits, or at least make contacts (considering he's going to be ninja fighting).



Now those designs I could get behind, they have the right light touch of their personalities.

The science and reason for Donnie making adjustments to his gear is fine. I can get behind that. He's the smartypants of the bunch.
But to say he fashioned them to fit his turtle shaped head... while the other turtles are all wearing normal, non-reformed glasses makes Don's reason void. His head isn't any more different than his brothers. Therefore the tapped glasses only serve to give him the "nerd/geek" stereotype.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Good Gawd was Goodman beyond perfect in that movie. And Good Gawd, were Sarandon's jugs spectacular in that movie (I'm kinda into older chicks, and by "kinda" I mean "Very"). I could have used more Ricci/Trixie, for sure, and a little less Spritle/Chim-Chim, but the rest was soooo gooood. How would drugs improve that movie in any way?

And I didn't hate Detector's accent, but I wasn't expecting it. We got Snake Oiler and the GRX and Ambiguously Gay Sparky. What in the hell more can anyone ask? Totally watching it this weekend, thanks buddy.

"More like a NON-ja. TERRIBLE what passes for a Ninja these days..."

I declare we use "NON-JA" if this movie is as bad as it could be.
Oh yea, Sarandon was total MILF and Ricci was very cute and needed more screen time also... atleast in exchange for ChimChim/Spritle's screen time lol

I think the idea for the drugs were because of how bright and vibrant the visuals of the movie were, and over the top the action was. Apparently its quite "trippy". Ppsh.

[Leo656]

As if seeing a car do a flying dropkick to another car while doing a giant loop-the-loop on a psychadelic racetrack wasn't "trippy" enough? And c'mon man, that ninja fight scene... COME ON, man...

And I think NON-ja is long overdue for a comeback. "Twerk" makes it into the dictionary, and yet...

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

The science and reason for Donnie making adjustments to his gear is fine. I can get behind that. He's the smartypants of the bunch.
But to say he fashioned them to fit his turtle shaped head... while the other turtles are all wearing normal, non-reformed glasses makes Don's reason void. His head isn't any more different than his brothers. Therefore the tapped glasses only serve to give him the "nerd/geek" stereotype.

Exactly, which leads to my extreme visual stereotyping notion. But I better stop my complaining (at least for some time), otherwise I'll be sounding like CyberCubed.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by Leo656

As if seeing a car do a flying dropkick to another car while doing a giant loop-the-loop on a psychadelic racetrack wasn't "trippy" enough? And c'mon man, that ninja fight scene... COME ON, man...

And I think NON-ja is long overdue for a comeback. "Twerk" makes it into the dictionary, and yet...

Michael Bay Presents
Teenage Mutant Non-ja Turtles
Let's reserve that name if this movie is pure crap!

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Exactly, which leads to my extreme visual stereotyping notion. But I better stop my complaining (at least for some time), otherwise I'll be sounding like CyberCubed.

And NOBODY wants that lol.
I think we were agreeing on the same thing but I thought you might have been saying different

[turtlefanforever]

We are all expecting this to be so bad that we might actually end up liking it. I still think it'll be terrible but all our expectations are so low and odds are there will be some positive (yet very few) aspects of this movie that make you go hey, that's pretty cool or it's not a total disapointment.

[Leo656]

I kinda liked the lair, I thought that was a good step in the right direction, mostly. Then they went and overdid it with Donnie having more monitors than the Batcave.

That's pretty much been all of it, so far: interesting ideas over-thought into farcical self-parody. Also known as "trying way too hard."

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

As nervous as I am about the Turtles and as much as I'm dreading seeing Bay's Shredder, I'm most nervous about Splinter.

Because THIS guy is playing him:

http://i.imgur.com/6wtljZp.jpg?1

Yeah the guy who hung out with Kramer on Seinfeld is playing either Japanese man/ninja master turned anthropomorphic rat Hamato Yoshi OR pet Japanese rat of Japanese ninja master Hamato Yoshi(I myself prefer the latter. The mutated pet rat of murdered Hamato Yoshi).

So...balls.

Splinter is gonna be waddling his way around everywhere. I don't know many dwarf actors but I see the only reason he was cast was because of his stature. Given he's probably the most name of them besides Vern troyer I just feel they could have found someone else of that stature, preferably someone Japanese.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Splinter is gonna be waddling his way around everywhere. I don't know many dwarf actors but I see the only reason he was cast was because of his stature. Given he's probably the most name of them besides Vern troyer I just feel they could have found someone else of that stature, preferably someone Japanese.

not that I mind a shorter Splinter, but I got kinda used to a taller younger Splinter like in Nick.

oh well, this Splinter might be as cool as yoda~ we'll see.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

It took me awhile to get used to Nick's tall Splinter... but I have and he's badass... and as wise as Yoda.
No cheap fortune cookie talk.

[TrickOrTreater]

I have to say I really like tall Splinter in the nick cartoon too, but I'm not even really talking about the size.

I'm talking about the way this guy sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biexdHnqM64

Now think about how all the other Splinters in the past/present have sounded.

Unless this guy can do an AMAZING "wise, Japanese martial arts master" voice, it's going to sound ridiculous.

And I haven't heard of anyone being cast to dub over his voice in the final product(which I doubt they'd do anyway, because why bother to get a semi-recognizable working actor for the role if you're just going to dub his voice over anyway).

Just...goddammit.