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[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

well everyone has a different opinion

just like the people who like the new turtle designs :3

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Chris

To be honest that whole scene felt misplaced to me. On its own I love it and the whole "I'm here to help but on my terms" is the Superman I want to see more of in MoS2/BvS, but coming straight after Zod's death it's just got the wrong tone. One second Superman is on his knees, distraught at the price of victory, the next he's joking that "it was" a billion dollar satellite. It felt wrong. I know the grave yard scene with Martha led into the Daily Planet ending but it would have fit better after Zod's death, then have the drone scene then the Planet ending (slightly reworking the lead in). To be honest it feels like when they rewrote the battle of Metropolis to end with Zod's death, they didn't bother to rewrite the rest of the ending to reflect it properly.

Time passed between those moments. So in the context of the movie it wasn't really that jarring.

[Raven]

How was iron man 3 hard to follow? It was so basic and easy to figure out what was going to happen next.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Chris

To be honest that whole scene felt misplaced to me. On its own I love it and the whole "I'm here to help but on my terms" is the Superman I want to see more of in MoS2/BvS, but coming straight after Zod's death it's just got the wrong tone. One second Superman is on his knees, distraught at the price of victory, the next he's joking that "it was" a billion dollar satellite. It felt wrong. I know the grave yard scene with Martha led into the Daily Planet ending but it would have fit better after Zod's death, then have the drone scene then the Planet ending (slightly reworking the lead in). To be honest it feels like when they rewrote the battle of Metropolis to end with Zod's death, they didn't bother to rewrite the rest of the ending to reflect it properly.

Yeah. The ending rubbed people the wrong way.

That movie got so much right, while feeling so wrong. I feel like there was a big disconnect between the writing of the story, and its depiction on screen. Pretty much all the complaints people have about the movie are things like, "This doesn't look right," or "That doesn't feel right." Basically, a bunch of situations when one may think, "I doubt Nolan and Goyer saw it this way in their heads."

Then you have Snyder, multiple times, defending the movie by saying what he intended to get across. And that's the director's whole job - to show you what you're supposed to perceive. And if lots of people don't get what you wanted them to, that must be a failure on the director's part.

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

...You're on your own...

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Powder

Ironic coming from someone who uses feminism as a tool to belittle others.

I've got to slake my never ending thirst for man-tears some how.

[ironman29758]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I loved Avengers XD

and all the Ironman movies.

I love most of the Marvel Movies(I haven't seen Iron Man 3, and Thor: The Dark World), the chris nolan trilogy, all of the Spider-Man movies(including the amazing spider-man and I thought Spider-Man 3 was decent with a lot of flaws) and a lot of most modern superhero movies. Man of Steel was decent but it had a lot of disappointing moments. I was glad it was controversial as it was but if it was better it could have shake a lot of people's view as "the big blue boyscout" type image while still being a good movie and a better set up for a DC Cinematic universe. I hope the sequel is better though.

[tmnt transformer]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Those movies were just terrible.


The last ironman movie was hard to follow and all and all poorly done. I don't get how anyone liked that too, and I find it difficult to take a villain seriously named after an orange. And the avengers was fine but the way it was built up, it was the biggest let down in movie history. That movie had SO much potential and it completely failed to meet any expectation. And right when the fight scene happens and the movie starts to get good; IT'S OVER! I thought it was just the middle of the movie. Terrible long and drawn out. But it was an ok movie, just huge let down. The marvel movies are usually always good just DC isn't putting the best product out lately. Including the green lantern.

Do you have to be such a wet blanket all the time...

[NinjaPug]

People need to just ignore him. He's been a troll since day one.

[TigerClaw]

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

What is it they call it now? Geek Chic? We used to just call it dorky. LOL.

[poprob]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I really hope the reason why Donatello is wearing those glasses is because he has vision problems, and not for aesthetic reasons. lol

You'd think that Donnie would've been able to come up with a simple self-Lasik surgery, since the guy can make transmats, communicators, and all...

[TigerClaw]

The only reason Donatello has those glasses would be, That hes been having vision problems staring at all these monitors.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

...You're on your own...

Originally Posted by tmnt transformer

Do you have to be such a wet blanket all the time...

I'm not on my own. Other people that hated those movies, myself included and I said the avengers was an ok movie just no where near where it could have been. Need to find out what the marvel people are doing cause they do every movie nearly perfect DC has been severely lacking. I'm positive the majority of the time it's just people's natural tendency to view the negative. And then there's those narcissistic people that think 'hey he has a different opinion then me attack him!" Which i come to find quite a few on here, I don't mind, if I can piss you off and get my point across all the better man. In general this is a nice community of people and I never met a mean TMNT fan until I came to this forum. Save your snide remarks for the people who actually came here to troll. This was a post here today or yesterday by the user 'Wonder Women' who specifically stated in her thread their intention was to troll. As "The Rock" would say "Know your roll and shut your mouth!"

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

People need to just ignore him. He's been a troll since day one.

Like he said.

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

well everyone has a different opinion

just like the people who like the new turtle designs :3

[Slime State Alumni]

LOL Raph's shades oh god.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Time passed between those moments. So in the context of the movie it wasn't really that jarring.

Oh I know in universe that time passed (Metropolis looked pretty rebuilt in that final scene), but I don't live in the DCU, I was sat in a cinema where about 5 seconds passed and to me the tonal shift was jarring and felt wrong.

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Yeah. The ending rubbed people the wrong way.

That movie got so much right, while feeling so wrong. I feel like there was a big disconnect between the writing of the story, and its depiction on screen. Pretty much all the complaints people have about the movie are things like, "This doesn't look right," or "That doesn't feel right." Basically, a bunch of situations when one may think, "I doubt Nolan and Goyer saw it this way in their heads."

Then you have Snyder, multiple times, defending the movie by saying what he intended to get across. And that's the director's whole job - to show you what you're supposed to perceive. And if lots of people don't get what you wanted them to, that must be a failure on the director's part.

Yeah, I was willing to let a lot slide (notably Pa Kent being a jerk and his stupid death) as the movie was enjoyable but making Superman a killer was just a step too far, especially as it just happened, no proper build up, no proper aftermath. If Zod had spent the fight targeting people and Superman was getting beaten to a pulp trying to protect them whilst trying to stop Zod then his decision to kill Zod wouldn't have felt as forced. As it was Zod never won a fight in the whole film, whilst they felt evenly matched you never felt Zod was dominating Superman in their final battle. I get what they were going for but the build up didn't earn it and the aftermath didn't reflect it. They needed to address Zod's death at least a bit in the ending, the graveyard scene would have been perfect, but it's never mentioned.

I still enjoy the film, but I can't deny it's flaws. They've said Mos2/BvS will address the destruction and Zod's death, I'm hoping that it will retrospectively make the ending of MoS more palatable. I don't want them to dwell on it for the entire film (I'd like Superman a little more upbeat) but I don't want it to just be a passing reference, they have to make it worthwhile/count for something otherwise what was the point other than shock value?

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Chris

Yeah, I was willing to let a lot slide (notably Pa Kent being a jerk and his stupid death) as the movie was enjoyable but making Superman a killer was just a step too far, especially as it just happened, no proper build up, no proper aftermath. If Zod had spent the fight targeting people and Superman was getting beaten to a pulp trying to protect them whilst trying to stop Zod then his decision to kill Zod wouldn't have felt as forced. As it was Zod never won a fight in the whole film, whilst they felt evenly matched you never felt Zod was dominating Superman in their final battle. I get what they were going for but the build up didn't earn it and the aftermath didn't reflect it. They needed to address Zod's death at least a bit in the ending, the graveyard scene would have been perfect, but it's never mentioned.

I still enjoy the film, but I can't deny it's flaws. They've said Mos2/BvS will address the destruction and Zod's death, I'm hoping that it will retrospectively make the ending of MoS more palatable. I don't want them to dwell on it for the entire film (I'd like Superman a little more upbeat) but I don't want it to just be a passing reference, they have to make it worthwhile/count for something otherwise what was the point other than shock value?

Perfect example. And you can find interviews where Snyder explains that he wanted to create a scenario where Superman had no choice, and to give him a reason to have a no-kill rule. But it didn't look like he had no choice. And too many people had died for viewers to feel afraid for that family in danger. Snyder failed to get his point across.

I do hope that they work everything out. And Lex Luthor is the perfect person to hold Superman accountable for his actions and for the destruction. But the cast is getting pretty crowded, at this point. I wonder if anything will get proper attention.

[Chris]

Exactly, I completely get what he was going for. They wanted it more grounded, more "real", the Phantom Zone option was gone, there's no Justice League, no Fortress of Solitude, no way to contain Zod and Zod's just declared genocide on the human race. Looking at it realistically there was no other outcome, Zod died or the world did. But Zod told Superman that in the film, laying down the challenge for him to do what Superman does - the impossible, find another way. Superman essentially fails to be Superman. Snyder grounds him, brings him down to our level to make him feel more real/relatable. To give a reason for Superman not to kill again (which wouldn't be needed if they hadn't butchered Jonathon Kent's character - I get he was speaking out of fear when he said "maybe" but he's meant to be Clark's moral compass, the reason he grows up to be Superman, that didn't come across in MoS).

I'm not worried out the number of characters yet, LOTR, Avengers, plenty of films have shown ensemble casts can be done right (fingers crossed Snyder is up to the challenge). My biggest worry is that having set up this "real" world, I hope they can maintain the integrity whilst bringing in the rest of the DCU. If they don't and Batman can go hand to hand with Superman because "comic book movie" then making Superman kill Zod is wasted.

[MST3KFan]

BUSY.

That's the one word I constantly sum up the designs of the turtles for this movie.

Everything is just way too busy. There's just too much on them. Shredder even just has too much going on to me.

[Tazi]

Okay, so the designs are not that bad, but what disturbs me is all the ridicolous ******** they wear. Like how the hell a heavy armor helps ninjas at stealth and jumping between rooftops, if that wasn't over the top enough. And it's not like they don't have shells already.
And about Donnie and his glasses... Hell, why don't they just give him a tee like this:

Spoiler:

And yo, homie Mikey is a real husla, yo.

If they wanted to go with unique clothes with each turtle, they should have been a lot clever.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by MST3KFan

BUSY.

That's the one word I constantly sum up the designs of the turtles for this movie.

Everything is just way too busy. There's just too much on them. Shredder even just has too much going on to me.

Sort of sounds the same way via everyone's description. Yep, as busy as they used to sing about in that insane Richard Scarry show. Should have some great fight sceens, clothes or no. And yes, The Foot are probably the types of guys to hit a turtle with glasses, so maybe they'll break early on. Just hope they're nott the $500 variety or there abouts.