Official Episode Discussion: S2 #8 "The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones" - Page 8

*snake* · 02-02-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

I've been super critical about this series, and still don't dig Casey too much, but this was an example of an episode done well. It had the classic Raph meets Casey Jones, while feeling fresh and not corny or dumbed-down. The only negatives I have for this episode are Irma's irrelevance and Raph's lack of development and perpetual anger induced temper tantrums. I'd say this is in the top 3 episodes so far, behind "The Gauntlet" and one of the recent Karai episodes...the title is slipping my mind right now.

"Follow The Leader"? Is that the Karai episode?

bigk4062 · 02-02-2014, 08:46 PM

Ok so first thought seeing the Casey/Raph fight... I feel like I remember reading an article about the 2007 movie that the Raph/Leo fight was suppose to end the same way (with Raph almost stabbing Leo in the face with his sai instead of hitting the roof next to him) and it surprised me they did it with this show... great scene though!!!

Jeff · 02-02-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

"Follow The Leader"? Is that the Karai episode?

yeah, i believe it is

Retro-Specs · 02-02-2014, 09:00 PM

That was awesome. Great fight scenes, and awesome to see Jones and Raph battling atop a subway and in the station - and of course, Splinter being able to fight again.

I like how Raph and Casey were suddenly pulled together, over the similar ways of dealing with bad guys - just like it should be. They got kind of violent - moreso than the somewhat goofy encounter of the 1990 movie (And I'd've died if they'd used one of the old lines - "Cricket? Nobody understands cricket!..."), but it never went too far.

I'll just out and out say it - once again, Leo is a jerk. Yeah, he's been taught by Splinter than being "fair" means you don't ensure victory, sure. But I think he really targeted Raph, right as he was sparring with Mikey, then immediately went to bow to his master - and soak in victory. It felt like he was treating Raph like he was just another Foot soldier - "last turtle standing" or not. I'm with Raph - I'd loose my cool there too, and perhaps even do what Raph did. After all that, Leo could have taken the apology for what is was, instead of rubbing it in Raph's face, making him say it louder and louder.

But enough belly-aching, this was an awesome episode. Looking forward to more.

*Shark_Blade* · 02-02-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigk4062

Ok so first thought seeing the Casey/Raph fight... I feel like I remember reading an article about the 2007 movie that the Raph/Leo fight was suppose to end the same way (with Raph almost stabbing Leo in the face with his sai instead of hitting the roof next to him) and it surprised me they did it with this show... great scene though!!!

I remember that one.

*snake* · 02-02-2014, 09:05 PM

I wonder if Ciro or someone saw it and decided to use it.

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-02-2014, 09:07 PM

The lair was broken into by Casey Jones and foot soliders that easily? This needs to be a lesson learned for them especially Raphael.The foot soliders are not able to trace it but perhaps a early warning system that Don installed in the '87 cartoon would be in order.

bigk4062 · 02-02-2014, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I remember that one.

http://i.imgur.com/Fr5CnIu.gif

Yea so I'm not nuts!!!

It amazes me how 'violent' this show is sometimes... I remember Nick as a kid and it was either comedy shows like Salute Your Shorts or gross humor like Ren and Stimpy... I don't remember many shows being like this and I find it very enjoyable, much better than sponge bob!!!

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2014, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

I've been super critical about this series, and still don't dig Casey too much, but this was an example of an episode done well. It had the classic Raph meets Casey Jones, while feeling fresh and not corny or dumbed-down. The only negatives I have for this episode are Irma's irrelevance and Raph's lack of development and perpetual anger induced temper tantrums. I'd say this is in the top 3 episodes so far, behind "The Gauntlet" and one of the recent Karai episodes...the title is slipping my mind right now.

Irma wasn't irrelevant it was just an introduction...to show she exists....

so then when they make an episode about her it won't be like "who is this girl?" "where'd she come from?" "she's april's friend? since when"

know what I mean?

also not to say you are wrong about Raph's temper tantrum problem again.
But I really think his bad temper has to do with Spike....he doesn't have him to talk his problems out anymore.....no outlet. That's why Casey is important, cause he can be all rough and tough with him and get all that crazy energy out XD

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 02-02-2014, 09:45 PM

Absolutely LOVE this interpretation of Casey! Easily my favorite since Elias Koteas. He's essentially a hybrid of Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver and Kick-Ass.

*Drose18* · 02-02-2014, 10:03 PM

pizza is yummy

*victory_angel* · 02-02-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

She's had a screen presence of 30 seconds, what's there to hate?

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

well...no....

we've only seen a minute of her....and she only had a few lines.

but even then, she seems like a cool girl, what's to hate?

Bossa Nova · 02-02-2014, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

I don't hate her. But I admit I am a little weirded out by the fandom's obsession with her, especially since her OT presence was annoying and boy-crazy creepy. Why doesn't Angel get this kind of love? She's actually kick-butt, interesting and full of potential.

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

I don't hate her. But I admit I am a little weirded out by the fandom's obsession with her, especially since her OT presence was annoying and boy-crazy creepy. Why doesn't Angel get this kind of love? She's actually kick-butt, interesting and full of potential.

........I wish Angel was in the show................

*Cure* · 02-02-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

Not yet, but I have a feeling I will.

**Jester** · 02-02-2014, 10:31 PM

I kinda like her, but I'm one of those people who isn't bothered by Darcy in Thor.

EDIT: I also hope we learn that Casey's sis is indeed this universes Shadow Jones.

Technogeek29 · 02-02-2014, 10:34 PM

Positives~
-I love the homage to both the first movie and The Mirage Comics.
-Splinter was fighting in this episode
-Irma finally appeared hopefully kept some of her funny quirks.
-Splinter wasn't just a wise old rat giving advice.
-Love that Casey is a nut job with a heart of gold (didn't like the OT)

Negatives~
-Mikey was pulling stunts I expect from 2k3 Mikey.
-Don and Leo we're barely in it although this gets a pass.
-Don was literally a punching bug in this episode.
-April's telepathic powers are stronger (when did that happen?)

Edit: I wonder if Shadow is Casey's younger sis?

*CyberCubed* · 02-02-2014, 10:41 PM

How can anyone possibly hate Nick's Irma already given she's said one or two lines?

We have no clue what they'll do with her or if she'll become annoying or not.

Jon_Talbain · 02-02-2014, 11:34 PM

I really enjoyed this episode. I barely even blinked when Casey and Raph started fighting. I wasn't expecting Casey to be able to rip to that level yet. That is just too much raw potential.
It was great seeing April with Splinter again and seeing everyone fight together. I guess Raph has a new best friend...I still hope we can see Slash again soon. Maybe now Slash will have
a new complex against humans if he gets jealous of Casey.

View Poll Results: So, was this worth the wait?
Tributes Galore! Casey seeing Raph on the Rooftop, Casey's mirage sketch...	58	53.21%
Master Splinter and kids finally battled together!	17	15.60%
Purple-haired Irma's looks great!	9	8.26%
Anybody ask April what this week's powerball numbers are yet?	6	5.50%
Great, now we've got TWO Raphaels...	19	17.43%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

02-02-2014, 09:00 PM	#144
Retro-Specs Thug Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 81	That was awesome. Great fight scenes, and awesome to see Jones and Raph battling atop a subway and in the station - and of course, Splinter being able to fight again. I like how Raph and Casey were suddenly pulled together, over the similar ways of dealing with bad guys - just like it should be. They got kind of violent - moreso than the somewhat goofy encounter of the 1990 movie (And I'd've died if they'd used one of the old lines - "Cricket? Nobody understands cricket!..."), but it never went too far. I'll just out and out say it - once again, Leo is a jerk. Yeah, he's been taught by Splinter than being "fair" means you don't ensure victory, sure. But I think he really targeted Raph, right as he was sparring with Mikey, then immediately went to bow to his master - and soak in victory. It felt like he was treating Raph like he was just another Foot soldier - "last turtle standing" or not. I'm with Raph - I'd loose my cool there too, and perhaps even do what Raph did. After all that, Leo could have taken the apology for what is was, instead of rubbing it in Raph's face, making him say it louder and louder. But enough belly-aching, this was an awesome episode. Looking forward to more. __________________ My DeviantART: Retro-Specs

02-02-2014, 09:07 PM	#147
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,186	The lair was broken into by Casey Jones and foot soliders that easily? This needs to be a lesson learned for them especially Raphael.The foot soliders are not able to trace it but perhaps a early warning system that Don installed in the '87 cartoon would be in order. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

02-02-2014, 09:45 PM	#150
TMNT is cooler than MOTU Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Southern CA Posts: 858	Absolutely LOVE this interpretation of Casey! Easily my favorite since Elias Koteas. He's essentially a hybrid of Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver and Kick-Ass. __________________ Thank you for getting rid of Hamato Yoshi, Michael Bay and Co.! He was suuuuuper unnecessary.

02-02-2014, 10:03 PM	#151
Drose18 The Catalina Wine Mixer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,865	pizza is yummy Last edited by Drose18; 08-28-2023 at 11:42 PM.

02-02-2014, 08:46 PM	#142
bigk4062 Thug Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 61	Ok so first thought seeing the Casey/Raph fight... I feel like I remember reading an article about the 2007 movie that the Raph/Leo fight was suppose to end the same way (with Raph almost stabbing Leo in the face with his sai instead of hitting the roof next to him) and it surprised me they did it with this show... great scene though!!!

02-02-2014, 09:05 PM	#146
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	I wonder if Ciro or someone saw it and decided to use it.

02-02-2014, 10:31 PM	#157
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	I kinda like her, but I'm one of those people who isn't bothered by Darcy in Thor. EDIT: I also hope we learn that Casey's sis is indeed this universes Shadow Jones. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-02-2014, 10:34 PM	#158
Technogeek29 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville Posts: 1,486	Positives~ -I love the homage to both the first movie and The Mirage Comics. -Splinter was fighting in this episode -Irma finally appeared hopefully kept some of her funny quirks. -Splinter wasn't just a wise old rat giving advice. -Love that Casey is a nut job with a heart of gold (didn't like the OT) Negatives~ -Mikey was pulling stunts I expect from 2k3 Mikey. -Don and Leo we're barely in it although this gets a pass. -Don was literally a punching bug in this episode. -April's telepathic powers are stronger (when did that happen?) Edit: I wonder if Shadow is Casey's younger sis? __________________

02-02-2014, 10:41 PM	#159
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,701	How can anyone possibly hate Nick's Irma already given she's said one or two lines? We have no clue what they'll do with her or if she'll become annoying or not.

02-02-2014, 11:34 PM	#160
Jon_Talbain Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 165	I really enjoyed this episode. I barely even blinked when Casey and Raph started fighting. I wasn't expecting Casey to be able to rip to that level yet. That is just too much raw potential. It was great seeing April with Splinter again and seeing everyone fight together. I guess Raph has a new best friend...I still hope we can see Slash again soon. Maybe now Slash will have a new complex against humans if he gets jealous of Casey. __________________ A wolf....wandering through the dark....