WHY?! Explanations of why you defend or are repulsed by the designs

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

Themselves. It makes them FEEL that they fit in with the humans above even though they know they never will....maybe it just makes them feel better about themselves. They just want to do it. Have you never dine something because you wanted to do it, regardless of if it was pointless or not?

Exactly

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

The same thing worked (and to great avail I might add) for 30 years. Why would you change that.

Im just say practicality really have nothing to do with it seeing as practically it doesn't make since to really have turtle flipping and doing ninja stunts.

I love the ninja turtles and part of the is just suspending disbelief for a while this doesn't mean think can be realistic and make since but if your going to scrutinize their choice of wearing clothes then scrutinize how the could even move

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Go to NYC, walk around, and tell me how many people you see wearing samurai armor, a laser cannon strapped to their back, sweater ties around their waist, or a loincloth. ... Go ahead... I'm waiting

NYCC all the time, I dressed like thor because i wanted to so what. Go to japan people dress odd to us all the time that's their choice doesn't make them weird makes them them that's all

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl

But why? Why should the TMNT be limited to only being naked? I mean seriously, tell me that the clothes you guys chose to wear doesn't in some way reflect who you are.

It doesn't. I dress for comfort and mobility.



There was a great post on here by someone, I can't remember who, that said anybody saying that the reason the Turtles dress this way in this movie wasn't because of their personalities or to keep warm or any of that. It was simply because of the need to make as many unique-looking toys as possible. And anybody saying the clothes ARE because of their personalities(it's only barely partly true, since the clothing is a stereotypical extension of their personalities) or because of warmth or the glasses because of sunlight is waaaaay over thinking it. Wish I could find that post again.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

The same thing worked (and to great avail I might add) for 30 years. Why would you change that.

Because it isn't trying to just be a copy of what came before. If you don't try new things you don't grow.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Go to NYC, walk around, and tell me how many people you see wearing samurai armor, a laser cannon strapped to their back, sweater ties around their waist, or a loincloth. ... Go ahead... I'm waiting

Not fit in with style, but fit in with humans in general. Raphael seems to have gone a simpler way and used a doo rag over his head and shades, like a biker. And where do you get that Donatello has a laser cannon? I think that's a communications hub so they can communicate via turtle comms or something similar. Mikey has done the best job of fitting in style wise. You still see people with hoodies or sweaters tied around their waists....not many, but people do it. They were clothes to make them feel more human

[TigerClaw]

It would be funny if the Turtles showed up in the middle of NY with all those clothing on and somebody sees them and says. "Hey! Nice costumes, Is the furry convention in town?"

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

It would be funny if the Turtles showed up in the middle of NY with all those clothing on and somebody sees them and says. "Hey! Nice costumes, Is the furry convention in town?"

That would be kinda funny

[M-Frame]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

...And anybody saying the clothes ARE because of their personalities(it's only barely partly true, since the clothing is a stereotypical extension of their personalities) or because of warmth or the glasses because of sunlight is waaaaay over thinking it...

Agreed, just like anybody saying the clothes/accessories would be impractical or inconvenient during battle is "waaaaay over thinking it"!!

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by M-Frame

Agreed, just like anybody saying the clothes/accessories would be impractical or inconvenient during battle is "waaaaay over thinking it"!!

No that part's actually true.

Loose fit, wavy clothing is impractical for battle.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

NYCC all the time, I dressed like thor because i wanted to so what. Go to japan people dress odd to us all the time that's their choice doesn't make them weird makes them them that's all

I didn't say comicon I said New York City. If he did that right now at this very moment the chances of him saying that is slim to none. I rest my case.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

No that part's actually true.

Loose fit, wavy clothing is impractical for battle.

tell that to samurai lol.

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

I didn't say comicon I said New York City. If he did that right now at this very moment the chances of him saying that is slim to none. I rest my case.

There are all shorts of people in new york i bet i could find some where similar cloths maybe not the same thing everyday but things close to what they're wearing and not many people would wear only leather straps and belt with masks out in public either. but some clothes is better then nothing

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl

Because it isn't trying to just be a copy of what came before. If you don't try new things you don't grow.

You don't fail either. You meet what is expected and your life long fans are pleased.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

tell that to samurai lol.

There are all shorts of people in new york i bet i could find some where similar cloths maybe not the same thing everyday but things close to what they're wearing and not many people would wear only leather straps and belt with masks out in public either. but some clothes is better then nothing

But here's the kicker, the turtles don't go out in public to be seen by people! sorry to break it to ya

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

You don't fail either. You meet what is expected and your life long fans are pleased.

Yeah it becomes stagnant and then slowly start to lose fans. Say what you will about M bays movies They brought more fans over and really didn't lose any those who didn't like just didn't watch, it didn't make them stop liking the franchise as a whole, just dislike M bays movies. they same will happen with this movie But if it didn't appeal to a larger audience, less fan would join the fandom and that not what they want they want to appeal to more people while giving honor to the original franchise.

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

But here's the kicker, the turtles don't go out in public to be seen by people! sorry to break it to ya

But that wouldn't stop people from still dressing in the normal Humanly excepted way in the simplest terms. While some people who could go out in public with out being noticed would do crazy thing like walk around naked that is and exception not the norm

[M-Frame]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

you make some really good points but really a lot of that was because of the censorship of the time. lets be honest there was no way a straight adaption of the comic would have made it past censors back in the day. the turtles would've never made it onto tv without toning the concept down and brightening it up. in the process it became a 30 minute toy commercial just like every other action cartoon on at the time. and the movie series started with the dark tone of the source material and only a bit of the cartoons influence. it would have probably stayed that why if parents never complained. its them that we have to thank for the combat cold cuts, vanilla ice, keno, and a shredder who went from being cold, calculating and lethal to being so bumbling he killed himself with his own temper tantrum. but here in 2014 when even in the cartoon rapheal can get angry and almost stab casey jones in the face there's no reason we can't get movie that takes itself seriously. if the people behind it take their job seriously

Agreed. It's just that the TMNT brand has been burdened and hindered with the family/child-friendly stigma for so long that I, at this point, have absolutely No Problem with this movie bringing it to the near complete opposite end of the spectrum in terms of tone (assuming that's what this movie is doing).

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

No that part's actually true. Loose fit, wavy clothing is impractical for battle.

Correct. Just like it's true that people wear clothes for warmth and sometimes use them as a form of self expression or to display their individuality.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by M-Frame

Agreed. It's just that the TMNT brand has been burdened and hindered with the family/child-friendly stigma for so long that I, at this point, have absolutely No Problem with this movie bringing it to the near complete opposite end of the spectrum in terms of tone (assuming that's what this movie is doing).


Correct. Just like it's true that people wear clothes for warmth and sometimes use them as a form of self expression or to display their individuality.

seriously like jewelry has any reason to be worn other the self expression

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Yeah it becomes stagnant and then slowly start to lose fans. Say what you will about M bays movies They brought more fans over and really didn't lose any those who didn't like just didn't watch, it didn't make them stop liking the franchise as a whole, just dislike M bays movies. they same will happen with this movie But if it didn't appeal to a larger audience, less fan would join the fandom and that not what they want they want to appeal to more people while giving honor to the original franchise.
So you'd rather lose fans the fast way? Haha. It would steer away anyone the people that wanna see it will and the people that don't wont. It's like that with any movie. If you're referring to the transformers movies, it's more people that like cinema that liked them, not the fandom. Not many people seeing transformers are gonna go back and read comics and watch old cartoons. And how does he in any way help the franchise ? When you hear his name placed with an already successful franchise people HATE it! Have you heard anything good about bay the whole time you've been on here?! Aside from some platinum dune drones that joined last week. And they didn't even say anything good just said bad stuff about the people saying he sucks.

But that wouldn't stop people from still dressing in the normal Humanly excepted way in the simplest terms. While some people who could go out in public with out being noticed would do crazy thing like walk around naked that is and exception not the norm[/QUOTE] they aren't dressing like normal humans at all! Plus they would only know what "normal" humans dress like from television. And even then they're doing it wrong. Its a Paradox
What you're saying man. Except its not that sensible at all in reasoning.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

they aren't dressing like normal humans at all! Plus they would only know what "normal" humans dress like from television. And even then they're doing it wrong. Its a Paradox
What you're saying man. Except its not that sensible at all in reasoning.

If they have TV or internet then the have a window what they might think as Human and seeing as they have some human like sensibilities it is not a stretch that they might barrow item then see as humanizing to wear in a way that they may feel expresses there personalities. It doesn't matter if you think there doing it wrong it what they feel is exceptable. And seem very sensible to me and im sure to others as well

[Candy Kappa]

The new movie designs are to sell new toys, I think some are looking a bit too hard into the designs.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by M-Frame

Correct. Just like it's true that people wear clothes for warmth and sometimes use them as a form of self expression or to display their individuality.

Can't have it both ways, chief.

But this is all a moot point anyway since the designs pretty much ARE just to sell toys.