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Old 02-06-2014, 10:58 AM   #501
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There's no argument that can be made to justify these designs both their hulking anatomies and human-esque faces and their silly apparel that can't be countered with a just as valid if not moreso argument. Ultimately it's just a circular argument.

When you boil it down the question should be is whether these designs are aesthetically pleasing, do they hit the eye right, do they work - at least enough to justify majorly ditching designs that have worked very well across multiple media for several decades? The answer is no.

They are ugly, they are over-the-top, it's what a bunch if old men think will click with kids but ultimately wont.

I feel I've previously come up with with very valid reasons why these designs arn't realistic or why it's unnessary to go so over the top in both their designs and attempt to make every turtle visually distinct...and less said about the notion that this is practical in any way the better but it's useless me repeating that again. Let's just boil it down to me saying I feel like it's stupid.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:06 AM   #502
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I like the new designs I don't believe there stupid I just think they are an excuse for lack of character development they look how there suppose to act so you don't have to actually go into that in the movie.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:32 AM   #503
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I like the new designs I don't believe there stupid I just think they are an excuse for lack of character development they look how there suppose to act so you don't have to actually go into that in the movie.
Very interesting thought. You might be right. Still dislike the designs though.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:23 PM   #504
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The designs could have been a lot worse. Are they the greatest? Definitely not, but I can't say I dislike them. They're not the turtles I grew up with but they are an interesting interpretation of them. I was expecting something a lot worse than this for sure.

I'm trying to be optimistic with this film so I'm saving all bashing and criticism until I see them in motion. There is only so much we can complain about from a poster (pretty much everything has been exhausted in this thread already so I won't go into it) so best to sit back and wait until we're given something else to go on.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:42 PM   #505
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The designs could have been a lot worse. Are they the greatest? Definitely not, but I can't say I dislike them. They're not the turtles I grew up with but they are an interesting interpretation of them. I was expecting something a lot worse than this for sure.

I'm trying to be optimistic with this film so I'm saving all bashing and criticism until I see them in motion. There is only so much we can complain about from a poster (pretty much everything has been exhausted in this thread already so I won't go into it) so best to sit back and wait until we're given something else to go on.
These are way worse than I thought they would be. The only reason people think these are decent now and could be worse is because we saw the terrible costume first so nothing could be worse. A big contributing factor to that thinking at least.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:58 PM   #506
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These are way worse than I thought they would be. The only reason people think these are decent now and could be worse is because we saw the terrible costume first so nothing could be worse. A big contributing factor to that thinking at least.
I'll agree with that. But only partially. For me, the costume did set off a lot of alarms but everything that was announced or said about the film before any kind of photos surfaced did this. Seeing the designs, my skepticism dissipated some. With all the re-imagining that was being said to be happening (i.e. Shreddar is a white man now, turtles were gonna be aliens, etc) it was obvious things were gonna be different. And cause there were so many liberties being taken within the film, I was expecting designs of turtles that were WAY different and worse.

Like I said, this is just my personal take on it. From the poster, the turtles don't look as bad as I thought they would. To give my final opinion on their design, I wanna see these designs in motion first. Just trying to be optimistic until I see something official and more substantial than a a poster or set photo designs.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:15 PM   #507
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I hate that the general reaction to a new live action TMNT movie from what we've seen so far is "could be worse."

The property deserves a lot better than that.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:21 PM   #508
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I'll agree with that. But only partially. For me, the costume did set off a lot of alarms but everything that was announced or said about the film before any kind of photos surfaced did this. Seeing the designs, my skepticism dissipated some. With all the re-imagining that was being said to be happening (i.e. Shreddar is a white man now, turtles were gonna be aliens, etc) it was obvious things were gonna be different. And cause there were so many liberties being taken within the film, I was expecting designs of turtles that were WAY different and worse.

Like I said, this is just my personal take on it. From the poster, the turtles don't look as bad as I thought they would. To give my final opinion on their design, I wanna see these designs in motion first. Just trying to be optimistic until I see something official and more substantial than a a poster or set photo designs.
I agree you you other then the Costume really it was a terrible representation of what was shown in the Marquettes was terribly bad. I love the designs i personally don't think they look to large seeing as we haven't seen them with any contrast to show how large they actually art for all we know thy could shrink them down quite a bit or blow them up making then even larger.

ANd i just don't see there size being all that different from the 2k size (besides height) thy were very large and didn't really look like teenagers in fact the only versions that really seen like young teens are the new nick show. Not that i really care either way.

Im glad that the turtles aren't aliens. IM awaiting to see how shredder turn out seeing as hes has been played by many different races and if he plays the crap out of the character the who's to say he should or should have played the character
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I like that all the newer users who are orally pleasing this movie already all have matching 2014 movie avatars.
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I hate that the general reaction to a new live action TMNT movie from what we've seen so far is "could be worse."

The property deserves a lot better than that.
Alot of properties have gotten that very reaction before their movies were released, and turned out to be amazing. Context Helps alot when judging something if you judge something with out context your blind and arrogant
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I hate that the general reaction to a new live action TMNT movie from what we've seen so far is "could be worse."

The property deserves a lot better than that.
It does deserve more than that, but what else can we do except be optimistic? I'm just waiting for something better to go off before I ask for Bay's head on a stick. So yes, its sad that "could be worse" is what we have to resort to, but it is the absolute truth. They look like tmnt, they are recognizable. What more could we ask for a design?

Like I said, until we see a trailer or get more substantial, official details from the movie, we really can't gripe a lot.

I'm hoping for the best, and the design is the most positive thing I've really seen since it was announced other than the alien origin being dropped.
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Alot of properties have gotten that very reaction before their movies were released, and turned out to be amazing. Context Helps alot when judging something if you judge something with out context your blind and arrogant
You sound like a Broncos fan before the Super Bowl

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It does deserve more than that, but what else can we do except be optimistic? I'm just waiting for something better to go off before I ask for Bay's head on a stick. So yes, its sad that "could be worse" is what we have to resort to, but it is the absolute truth. They look like tmnt, they are recognizable. What more could we ask for a design?

Like I said, until we see a trailer or get more substantial, official details from the movie, we really can't gripe a lot.

I'm hoping for the best, and the design is the most positive thing I've really seen since it was announced other than the alien origin being dropped.
Except that's how discussion forums work, until something more is said, we stretch thin that which we already know and are aware of.
I mean, how many topics are running on the movie and aren't they all, basically, about the look of the Turtles?
It's all we got to go off and people will continue to stretch that butter thinner until they get something new to work on.
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Im glad that the turtles aren't aliens. IM awaiting to see how shredder turn out seeing as hes has been played by many different races and if he plays the crap out of the character the who's to say he should or should have played the character
Voice acting isn't the same as actually turning Shredder into a white guy, and Nash was stand-in with a mask that concealed his face as he played Super Shredder. We where always given the illusion that Shredder/Oroku Saki was Japanese, even Ch'rell's alter ego was a Japanese man named Oroku Saki.

This is the first time Shredder is something else then a Japanese man named Oroku Saki/Sawaki (again Ch'rell's alter ego was Oroku Saki who's alter ego was The Shredder)

Every time we saw Live-Action Shredder's face or what was visible through his mask he was of Asian decent.

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But, this isn't Oroku Saki anymore. we get Eric Sachs, villain gentleman and Metal Gear Rising cosplayer.
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You sound like a Broncos fan before the Super Bowl
WHAT??? All im saying is many properties that have done fairly well in the past Were judge scrutinized and picked to peaces before their release, And yet These movies turned out great.
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Voice acting isn't the same as actually turning Shredder into a white guy, and Nash was stand-in with a mask that concealed his face as he played Super Shredder. We where always given the illusion that Shredder/Oroku Saki was Japanese, even Ch'rell's alter ego was a Japanese man named Oroku Saki.

This is the first time Shredder is something else then a Japanese man named Oroku Saki/Sawaki (again Ch'rell's alter ego was Oroku Saki who's alter ego was The Shredder)

Every time we saw Live-Action Shredder's face or what was visible through his mask he was of Asian decent.

TMNT: James Saito
TMNT II SOTO: François Chau
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But, this isn't Oroku Saki anymore. we get Eric Sachs, villain gentleman and Metal Gear Rising cosplayer.
What about the leaked info someone posted about Erich Sachs Being a alias of Oroku Saki??? and him being adopted???
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Did that get anymore confirmation then just being a rumor?
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Except that's how discussion forums work, until something more is said, we stretch thin that which we already know and are aware of.
I mean, how many topics are running on the movie and aren't they all, basically, about the look of the Turtles?
It's all we got to go off and people will continue to stretch that butter thinner until they get something new to work on.
Touche. You got me with that. Honestly, I do have some negative opinions on the new look, but I'm not trying to jump the gun and pass my judgment, not to mention I'm more than positive that all the things I don't like have been mentioned numerous times so I don't want to repeat them. That's just me though.

I'm just trying hard to hold to the idea that this movie will atually be good is all.
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There was a rumor that there was a rumor, but that was just bull****
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Did that get anymore confirmation then just being a rumor?
No, still just a rumor.

And if it was true, I think that might piss me off even more.
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There was a rumor that there was a rumor, but that was just bull****
was it actually confirmed as fake?
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