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Old 02-06-2014, 11:53 AM   #141
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I'm kinda on the fence on seeing it, it could turn out to be a great movie despite my gripes wit the designs and the thing we've seen so far. Or it could be a so-bad-it's-good movie, something I thought Transformers Dark(side) of the Moon would be, sadly I was greatly disappointed there. It could be mediocre, boring movie with just pretty visuals. Or it could also be complete udder crap.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:31 PM   #142
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I watch Freddy vs Jason the other day, and I forgot how almost cheesy it is, I felt the Sam/Bay remake brought same credit to the character.
People here hate Bay...no use arguing any valid points. Everything he does sucks. He could direct the academy awards best picture of the year and people here would still say it was ****
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:47 PM   #143
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I just find the 2014 Movie Turtles' faces to be ugly-looking, frankly. Craig Farley and the designers for the 1990 movie managed to make the Turtles more realistic-looking but still appealing, so why can the same be said for this? I don't really mind the outfits the Turtles are wearing, though.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:48 PM   #144
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I would accept the picture of Donnie that Bossa Nova has for her avatar. The 1990 movie the turtles were actually lovable.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:01 PM   #145
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They're new and different and, if nothing else, seems to fit the movie's bombastic tone.

I dig.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:54 PM   #146
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I just find the 2014 Movie Turtles' faces to be ugly-looking, frankly. Craig Farley and the designers for the 1990 movie managed to make the Turtles more realistic-looking but still appealing, so why can the same be said for this? I don't really mind the outfits the Turtles are wearing, though.
It's the human lips and overboard noses.

Just makes them look totally unappealing.

I could stomach the accessories if the faces weren't ugly.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:21 PM   #147
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People here hate Bay...no use arguing any valid points. Everything he does sucks. He could direct the academy awards best picture of the year and people here would still say it was ****
People hate Bay all over the freaking internet while Nolan is a God. Either way, I think neither one gives a crap because they are still doing what they love, laughing all the way to the bank, and word is, they are also good friends in real life.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:35 PM   #148
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People hate Bay all over the freaking internet while Nolan is a God. Either way, I think neither one gives a crap because they are still doing what they love, laughing all the way to the bank, and word is, they are also good friends in real life.
I'm not a fan of Nolan and his realistic take on things that shouldn't be realistic
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:44 PM   #149
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People hate Bay all over the freaking internet while Nolan is a God. Either way, I think neither one gives a crap because they are still doing what they love, laughing all the way to the bank, and word is, they are also good friends in real life.
Citation needed.

EDIT: By the way, I didn't care for TDKR. Even though TDK is perfection.
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I'm not a fan of Nolan and his realistic take on things that shouldn't be realistic
I like his Batman movies enough (still like the 89 the best though) But I didn't care for his Inception movie. But, I was never a fan of the dream within a dream type movies to begin with, so it's nothing against him.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:28 PM   #151
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Citation needed.

EDIT: By the way, I didn't care for TDKR. Even though TDK is perfection.
Well, I can't remember where I saw the clip of them talking at some convention, but Nolan has gone on record saying that he loves Michael Bay movies, and that MB shooting style is inspiration for CN.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:32 PM   #152
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Well, I can't remember where I saw the clip of them talking at some convention, but Nolan has gone on record saying that he loves Michael Bay movies, and that MB shooting style is inspiration for CN.
Apparently Wally Pfister has gone on record as saying Nolan likes Bay movies.

I haven't found anything yet that's a direct quote from Nolan.
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Apparently Wally Pfister has gone on record as saying Nolan likes Bay movies.

I haven't found anything yet that's a direct quote from Nolan.
And do you think the guy is lying? And if he is, why hasn't Nolan made an interview to clear things up? It's probably because it's true.
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I like his Batman movies enough (still like the 89 the best though) But I didn't care for his Inception movie. But, I was never a fan of the dream within a dream type movies to begin with, so it's nothing against him.
I can tolerate his Batman movies...I think I prefer Batman '89 more myself as well
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And do you think the guy is lying? And if he is, why hasn't Nolan made an interview to clear things up? It's probably because it's true.
Or it's a misunderstanding.

And so what if it is true? Does Chris Nolan liking Bay's movies somehow make Bay's movies less bad?
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Or it's a misunderstanding.

And so what if it is true? Does Chris Nolan liking Bay's movies somehow make Bay's movies less bad?
But then, critics overpraising the crap out of Christpher Nolan (or any movie, cough, Ironman 3, cough) make them good?
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But then, critics overpraising the crap out of Christpher Nolan (or any movie, cough, Ironman 3, cough) make them good?
The majority of Nolan's movies are good, yes.

In that they have good writing, acting, directing, cinematography, etc.

Bay's movies, aside from maybe, MAYBE, good cinematography, do not have those.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:46 AM   #158
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But then, critics overpraising the crap out of Christpher Nolan (or any movie, cough, Ironman 3, cough) make them good?
Iron Man 3...
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The majority of Nolan's movies are good, yes.

In that they have good writing, acting, directing, cinematography, etc.

Bay's movies, aside from maybe, MAYBE, good cinematography, do not have those.
Nolan's movies aren't that good. They have a nice sheen to them and are as subtle as a machine gun, but they're downright laughable in parts for movies that try so hard to take themselves so utterly seriously.

Bay hires people to figure out his cinematography and they all look the same: bland music video-esque Mountain Dew commercials.
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The only Nolan movie I can remember really thinking, "Could have been better." is Insomnia. Like the Batman flicks (though Rises is the weakest.) LOVE The Prestige, Memento is fun and Insception was OK, though I never went back to it...I ought to. Might need to IMDB Nolan to see if there are others I liked.

As for Bay, the only movies that I've seen of his that I know I don't like are the Transformers movies. Liked the Rock, liked Pain and Gain, liked The Island. Never saw Pearl Harbor...probably won't. Need to IMDB him for other I might have missed.

Never seen a Liebsman movie...wait take that back, saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. Not the worst thing ever...but I don't remember much either.

Point is, I dislike the new Turtle designs because I do. Because I find them very ridiculously over done and like they are telegraphing all of their personalities in their designs. It's not misdirected Bay hate, it's legitimate iffyness about the designs.
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