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[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Jester

Why must everyone who dislikes all the elements we've seen so far and has a reasonable apprehension about how good this film will be based on all of that still all boiled down to, "You hate Michael Bay, don't you?"

I don't want an Academy Award winning Turtle movie, but the 90's film did show you how to do a lot of things right to make a decent and very profitable Turtles movie.

I agree. I think it's fair to at Least expect an entertaining movie here.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Jester

Why must everyone who dislikes all the elements we've seen so far and has a reasonable apprehension about how good this film will be based on all of that still all boiled down to, "You hate Michael Bay, don't you?"

I don't want an Academy Award winning Turtle movie, but the 90's film did show you how to do a lot of things right to make a decent and very profitable Turtles movie.

I heard they were taking a lot from the original movie and cartoon. I'm ok with that. I want to see a trailer before I say whether or not I think the movie will suck. All we've seen are designs. If you're going to hate a whole movie based on the designs thats foolish. If you hate the designs that's fine, whatever. I'm still on board with this so far

[Jester]

• Dislike the designs, including the para-military style Foot.
• Dislike a lot of the casting choices.
• Dislike some of the choice of characters, like Vernon, really? Vernon.
• Disliked most of the leaked script, which might have been scrapped, but this is Hollywood, they never throw any idea away completely, no matter how bad.
• Disliked the other movies Bay made in this vein. Don't hate Bay and I'm not one of those "He raped my childhood!!" kind of guys (because my childhood is alive and well in my memories and on DVD) but what he did to Transformers, despite making big money, was not good.
• Don't trust the inexperience of Liebesman. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, like I'm sure many were about Barron, but as of right now he's done what, 5 movies...and many agree they ain't great.

There's more to make me a little apprehensive about this film than just the character designs.

[Jester]

The only opinion that matters:

[madyankees]

Originally Posted by Jester

The only opinion that matters:

Exacto Mondo Dude...

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Jester

The only opinion that matters:

Mikey has spoken.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by Slime State Alumni

I get the feeling you don't watch many movies.

Like I get it, I like Ghostbusters because I remember it as a child and it was funny and had ghosts and all those cool tech and HEY BILL MURRAY and whatever. But nostalgia aside, calling it the "greatest piece of cinema ever filmed" seems a bit of a hyperbole. Well, ok, a huge hyperbole.

Then again we're all on a forum dedicated to what is fundamentally a huge chunk of nostalgia, so maybe pointing all of this out is sort of like pissing in the ocean.

maybe you missed the parts of my past few posts where I'm reiterating that "taste is subjective".

You can't know how many movies I watch or the breadth of cinema I've experienced based off some postings on an interwebs forum about kids' toys and comics. That's quite the ad hominem for me simply stating my personal opinion.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

maybe you missed the parts of my past few posts where I'm reiterating that "taste is subjective".

You can't know how many movies I watch or the breadth of cinema I've experienced based off some postings on an interwebs forum about kids' toys and comics. That's quite the ad hominem for me simply stating my personal opinion.

I don't really think you know what ad hominem actually means.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Something tells me he didn't.

No need to speculate. Alan Ritchson (despite earlier comments claiming to be a big fan) has publicly stated he didn't watch any of the previous shows, movies or read the comics as research as he felt it was unnecessary.

Indeed all of the actors that have publicly commented about the movie have made a point to say that they haven't looked into previous versions and seem to treat the idea as absurd which is...shocking. With movies of this type usually actors and creative staff fall over themselves to say how they've read all the comics and looked into previous versions if for no other reason than to ingratiate themselves with fans and assure them they arn't going to screw up the characters - but these guys are doing the opposite.

In the case of William Fichtner and Arnett it probably really isn't necessary as we know their characters are essentially new characters just with names of pre-existing ones but it doesn't bode well for any of the other characters if you ask me.

[Candy Kappa]

Well, that feels like a huge slap in the face.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Galactus

No need to speculate. Alan Ritchson (despite earlier comments claiming to be a big fan) has publicly stated he didn't watch any of the previous shows, movies or read the comics as research as he felt it was unnecessary.

Indeed all of the actors that have publicly commented about the movie have made a point to say that they haven't looked into previous versions and seem to treat the idea as absurd which is...shocking. With movies of this type usually actors and creative staff fall over themselves to say how they've read all the comics and looked into previous versions if for no other reason than to ingratiate themselves with fans and assure them they arn't going to screw up the characters - but these guys are doing the opposite.

In the case of William Fichtner and Arnett it probably really isn't necessary as we know their characters are essentially new characters just with names of pre-existing ones but it doesn't bode well for any of the other characters if you ask me.

Ok did not know that about this movie. My low expectations were already Rock bottom. Where do you go from there?

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Galactus

No need to speculate. Alan Ritchson (despite earlier comments claiming to be a big fan) has publicly stated he didn't watch any of the previous shows, movies or read the comics as research as he felt it was unnecessary.

Indeed all of the actors that have publicly commented about the movie have made a point to say that they haven't looked into previous versions and seem to treat the idea as absurd which is...shocking. With movies of this type usually actors and creative staff fall over themselves to say how they've read all the comics and looked into previous versions if for no other reason than to ingratiate themselves with fans and assure them they arn't going to screw up the characters - but these guys are doing the opposite.

In the case of William Fichtner and Arnett it probably really isn't necessary as we know their characters are essentially new characters just with names of pre-existing ones but it doesn't bode well for any of the other characters if you ask me.

Mhm. Figures.

[Leo656]

"It's a movie about giant turtles who eat pizza and do karate. What's to know?"

Said Everyone involved in the creative side of the upcoming film.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Galactus

No need to speculate. Alan Ritchson (despite earlier comments claiming to be a big fan) has publicly stated he didn't watch any of the previous shows, movies or read the comics as research as he felt it was unnecessary.

Wrong i was just going to ignore your post but people on this forum are so quick to assuming no one on this production as and investment in this franchise other then Pure greed for their paycheck. He never said he didn't Watch the show or movie he said and I quote

Originally Posted by Alan Ritchson

"-I actually didn't read any of the comic books- and I really hope I don't offend anyone saying that-"

Alan Ritchson

He just felt he didn't have to read the comics there are plenty other sources he could have used a research. And he even said i hope im not offending anyone.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Indeed all of the actors that have publicly commented about the movie have made a point to say that they haven't looked into previous versions and seem to treat the idea as absurd which is...shocking. With movies of this type usually actors and creative staff fall over themselves to say how they've read all the comics and looked into previous versions if for no other reason than to ingratiate themselves with fans and assure them they arn't going to screw up the characters - but these guys are doing the opposite.

This is also not true I have been looking all over for interview and info pretaining to this excat thing and have found not proof. Also

Originally Posted by Alan Ritchson

"The assumptions, everything you read online is wrong."

Alan Ritchson.

They have never said that they haven't looked into previous incarnation they have said up until the point of being hired they hadn't. Which happens all the time. What about actor Tobby As Spiderman Still to this day hasn't read any comics and says he doesn't plan to. does that make him bad for the movie no.

Here more from people who "aren't Fans"

Originally Posted by Evan Daugherty

...these projects stay in development for a long time. Therefore different drafts are written, where people (writers) go in different directions and sometimes stray from the source material. I'm a massive fan of the Ninja Turtles: I had all the toys, I watched all the cartoons all the time when I was a kid. So when I came onboard, I wanted to make sure that the core things of the mythology remained.

(Continuing) so in terms of pleasing the fans and remaining faithful to the source material of the Ninja Turtles, I think people will not be disappointed at all. All I can say is that it will be a Ninja Turtles movie. It's going to be a really GREAT Ninja Turtles movie!"

Evan Daugherty Screen writer for tmnt.

Sure not a fan.
also

Originally Posted by Jonathan Liebesman

“Look, it’s so funny—if everyone was such a die-hard fan, they would know that the TCRI canisters where the ooze comes from. That is alien ooze. Now I’m not saying what Michael said is exactly what the movie is, because we’re sitting in a room now figuring everything out. So we don’t know, but we are like Michael said: we’re expanding it, and the expansion will be true to the mythology. I promise you: fans will love it.”

“Whatever mythology we’re building on or expanding is coming from that guy, Kevin Eastman’s head, who created the Turtles in the first place. And so everything will tie in with the mythology; fans will be extremely excited with what we’re coming up with. A lot of it is stuff he’s wanted to do for a long time, but just hasn’t had the opportunity because now we have the budget and things on this film to expand it in the right way. And so, I’m happy that everyone is extremely passionate, and they will not be disappointed. It’s all coming from the best possible place for this franchise.”

“We’re definitely into the action, but for me what’s more important than that is that it’s a story about brotherhood and friendship and responsibility. Right now, I’m with the characters because those are what attracted me to the movie. They’re the best characters I’ll have had a chance to deal with.”

Jonathan Liebesman

Sure doesn't sound like he knows anything about tmnt.

Originally Posted by Galactus

In the case of William Fichtner and Arnett it probably really isn't necessary as we know their characters are essentially new characters just with names of pre-existing ones but it doesn't bode well for any of the other characters if you ask me.

Originally Posted by William Fichtner

"It always had sort of a bouncy cartoon feel to me, which is great, that's why it was appealing," he said in an interview with Flicks and the City. "That's not this movie....It's not like any Mutant NInja Turtles thing you've ever seen before. It's freaky, they're cool, and they're mutants and they look awesome. It's tough and it's going to be really, really great."

"Well I play a guy named Eric Sachs and we find out that Eric Sachs is somebody else too. I can't give away too much in the story but I can tell you that who Shredder is in the telling of this Turtles is unlike any telling of the story before. His connection and relationship to the turtles is a bit surprising and for an actor playing it, the backstory, which comes out in this film, is really intriguing...We made some changes while filming that I thought are just awesome."

William Fichtner

Sure never seen the Original show or movies in order to make the comparison that "Its always had a Bouncy cartoon Feel" but you know just saying.

Side note
(Somebody else this could mean just about anything just remember it says Somebody not something, somebody.)

As for Will Arnett How is his character that much different beside not being scared all the time and work with instead against her. He always was the Camera Guy, he always was there for comedy.Ireally don't see much of a difference in character and especially not from a couple interviews and photo of the set


Im just saying #1 Not all people working on a film have to be fan of the franchise 100% it cant work that way some people just aren't in that demographic. This doesn't mean they cant perform well and make a great movie. Look at the original Spiderman trilogy Man of the people who worked on that were not fans. As I said above Tobby refuses to read the comics, does that mean his performance is bad? No

[Bob]

Actors don’t have to research roles at all, TBH. Particularly roles that have typically had so many versions to draw inspiration from. Their only source, more or less, should be the script. They could research their characters if they want, but I’m sure it’s neither a condition nor a necessity. Fans have a particularly harder time than others understanding that. What would be the point of William Fichtner "researching" Shredder, when he's pretty much playing a new version of the character. Toby Maguire, for example, went on record saying that he knew next to nothing about Spider-Man when he was cast in the first film.

I do agree that the screenwriter(s) and director should definitely do research beforehand and during. But actors? No. Not needed. I'm sure some would just use Ritchson's very honest admission as an excuse to bemoan further about something they know nothing about (actors apparently needing to research roles).

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Bob

Actors don’t have to research roles at all, TBH. Particularly roles that have typically had so many versions to draw inspiration from. Their only source, more or less, should be the script. They could research their characters if they want, but I’m sure it’s neither a condition nor a necessity. Fans have a particularly harder time than others understanding that. Toby Maguire, for example, went on record saying that he knew next to nothing about Spider-Man when he was cast in the first film.

And boy was he a mediocre Spider-Man.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

And boy was he a mediocre Spider-Man.

I liked him >3>

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Bob

Actors don’t have to research roles at all, TBH. Particularly roles that have typically had so many versions to draw inspiration from. Their only source, more or less, should be the script. They could research their characters if they want, but I’m sure it’s neither a condition nor a necessity. Fans have a particularly harder time than others understanding that. What would be the point of William Fichtner "researching" Shredder, when he's pretty much playing a new version of the character. Toby Maguire, for example, went on record saying that he knew next to nothing about Spider-Man when he was cast in the first film.

I do agree that the screenwriter(s) and director should definitely do research beforehand and during. But actors? No. Not needed. I'm sure some would just use Ritchson's very honest admission as an excuse to bemoan further about something they know nothing about (actors apparently needing to research roles).

Took the words Write out of my post lol Jk. but again this is true and it been proven there are many fans working on this movie.

[Candy Kappa]

Toby was okay as Peter Parker, it's not a hard character to mess as bland as he was in the movies. ( and too old) he did his job decent enough, but not in the "no one else can play Pete as he did" kind of way.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Im just saying #1 Not all people working on a film have to be fan of the franchise 100% it cant work that way some people just aren't in that demographic. This doesn't mean they cant perform well and make a great movie. Look at the original Spiderman trilogy Man of the people who worked on that were not fans. As I said above Tobby refuses to read the comics, does that mean his performance is bad? No

It actually was kind of bad really. The movies were good and tobeys an ok enough actor but if I had to tell you what kind of character peter parker/spider-man is based on his performance id say he was an overwhelmed sometimes depressed stoic silent type. Yes its true that sometimes peter can be overwhelmed and down on himself but most of the timehe's a pretty happy go lucky guy with a quick wit and great sense of humor. Say what you want about the amazing spiderman but at least it got spidey right. Maybe maguire would've benefitted from doing some research.