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http://www.thebacklot.com/alan-ritch...rview/11/2013/
On page 2 the interview is about TMNT, if this is a real interview and not a fabrication. Gotta say, I am not impressed. Of course the Fred Wolf Raph was smiling a lot, he isn't the hothead character most associate Raphael. But I guess we know sort of what kind of Raph we'll get in this movie. The one dimensional hotheaded brooder. Maybe the scrip haves Raph more nuanced, but I doubt it seeing the turtles carries they're bare basic archetype on their costumes. |
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"You know, they all look the same and there is so a much greater level of like, individual personality in this new reboot."
Basically they got new threads in the reboot cause the turtles looked the same, yeah I got it. |
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And why create a character and then talk about individualization if they're just going to be doing it visual that doesn't take any work on his part. |
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Of all the turtles, Raph is the most different from the most recognized versions. Fred Wolf Raph is snarky and a comedian, 1990 Raph had a more act first ask later attitude with a anger issue, 4Kids Raph was a mental hothead acting out in fury quickly.
The interview As a whole regarding TMNT wasn't very impressive, seemingly no interest of researching his character cause he "already know" Raph and he'll do fine cause he played a comic character before. By all means, Alan don't need to do any research, if the director and the script is strong enough most of the work is already done for him. And all he needs to do is recite his lines and look good doing it add some charm like good actors do. |
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That looks good
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It's true they don't have to but that's the deviding line!
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http://www.thebacklot.com/alan-ritch...iew/11/2013/2/
Here's the link to the interview for people to read themselves unedited. Quote:
That may or may not be a bad thing depending on your view but considering that he had claimed to be a fan and gave the impression he read the comics and watched the movies and TV show it is kind of irksome to read this. Quote:
His interview betrays that he hasn't seen much of the other versions or intends to. Obviously Raph wasn't a hothead in the '80s animated series, the turtles weren't overly smiley in the movies to its credit each version has portrayed each turtle with as being very different to the other I highly doubt this movie will portray that better beyond their designs. Also no version of TMNT that the titular characters have ever an overriding of sense "abandonment or betrayal". Now I'm not blaming Richson - or indeed any of the actors for not bothering to do any research. I'm sure the concepts of TMNT sound like complete nonsense to them and I doubt the script requires them to really delve into their characters. In that sense it sounds like Richson at least is putting more thought into this version of Raphael that it deserves but in an era were Hollywood is getting writers and directors and actors delving into the rich history of franchises and putting care and consideration on how they are reinterpreted on the big screen it's a bit sad that we're getting "well it's got sewers and pizza" - it's TMNT. Quote:
The turtles were going to be aliens, Shredder was going to be a yellow alien masquerading as military General called Schrader. I appreciate that this may have changed by the time he became involved and that he may be talking about the general feeling that this movie will end up being terrible and an unfaithful representation of the franchise. I'm sure he feels differently but based on the above he's not the best one to judge. Quote:
He also seems to be working from memory as opposed to doing any research. Certainly the existence of Eric Sachs character seems to be a very big and important deviation. Then again the only concrete thing stated about this movie and how it stays faithful to the mythology is that it has pizza and sewers. Quote:
I guess he wasn't aware that by that point Michael Bay had publicly confirmed that the turtles were going to be aliens but was being rewritten and here was Liebesman as good as saying that it wasn't true and it was always supposed to be the ooze - we'd just jumped to the wrong conclusion. Also the rest of the comments aren't too dissimilar to what the designer of the turtles recently made about how the designs are based on Eastman and Laird's designs and I think we can all agree those aren't really Kevin and Peter's designs. Quote:
Not that he has to have any knowledge of any prior version given he's playing a very new very different character than has been featured in TMNT. Quote:
It's strikes me if they were canny they could argue that this version of Vernon is based on how he was characterized in the first few episodes of the Fred Wolf show were he was no more a coward than the other Channel 6 crew and somwhat supportive of April but obviously neither he or the creative staff are aware of that. Arnett himself has stated his character is very different from the one found in the comics...well Vernon wasn't in any of the comics but Arnett doesn't need to know that. Quote:
Tobey Mcguire never struck me as a good Peter Parker. Sam Raimi was of a fan the silver-age era Spider-Man and that shows but he wasn't a fan of Venom but not only did the studio pushed for that character in the third movie and the fans loved the idea so he did it to please them and it turned out to be terrible. Since then we've had a wave of comic book movies that do translate quite faithfully from print to screen with actors and directors that have delved into the franchise history and I think they've been very successful because of that. The alterations are mostly either well thought out or understandable - not all but most. TMNT is sadly not going to be on that level. Last edited by Galactus; 02-10-2014 at 09:40 PM. |
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Shredder is a Japanese man named Oroku Saki. And not a middle aged white guy named Eric Sachs. Isn't that HILARIOUS? |
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I don't get the fuss with Ritchson researching Raphael. I think he makes a fine case for essentially starting from scratch.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-mutant-439723 This seems to be the only Red carpet TMNT video of Alan As far as I can find. And in it all he says is “I grew up with the turtles” Not I have consumed everything turtles. I grew Up which to me Can mean the same thing as it pertains to Me I grew Up watching the show and movie I didn’t even know about the Comic till Later (as I was to young to read them) Quote:
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I just think we lack the full scop of what they’re doing. Who knows maybe when they start doing press we will cometo find that all of them where given home work to watch the old show start to finish and watch all the movies we don’t know. And I admit that that’s kind of on their part because they haven’t even started their promotional campaign for this movie and I hope it starts soon. |
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I disagree that actors don't need to or "shouldn't have to" research roles. If you're a professional, it's what you do, if for no other reason than consistency, *especially* if you're doing a character that others have done before. You absolutely want to bring your own angle to it, but it's completely wrong not to do SOME research. It's disrespectful to others who have already done it, it's almost like saying "I don't need to see how they did it, because in being fresh and original, my take will be better." It's not *really* saying that, but it's implicit.
Even as a wrestler, I'm required to study tape. And only partly to see how other guys do moves. I'm playing a character, a role, and to properly perform that character, I'm told by veteran wrestlers and the matchmakers - the "directors and producers", so to speak - I need to watch how certain people perform. IF I want to be considered "professional" and take my job seriously. For my character, I watch matches of guys like Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, and beyond that, the on-stage performances of singers and rock stars like Axl Rose and David Lee Roth. I take little bits of all that, and it becomes MY character. I don't get a crowd reaction by having a better suplex than the next guy, I get it by using my body language to manipulate the audience. In other words, I'm an actor, executing a role, and studying tape and doing research to further develop my character and better entertain the audience. There's no reason "real" actors in big-budget films can get by with "It's a 'new take', I don't have to research the character." That's nonsense. If you were playing Romeo or Juliet, for example, shouldn't you read the f*cking book? Seriously. |
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Everyone and their mother loves to bring up the example of Heath Ledger's Joker in regards to bad casting choices actually being good, so let's do it again.
You know what Heath did prior to filming? He locked himself in a hotel room for a month, reading all the Joker material he could find. He spent the entire time perfecting the voice and the mannerisms of the Joker he was portraying. He kept a diary full of Joker cutouts from comic books and lists upon lists of things the Joker would find funny. THAT is a level of dedication I doubt these actors in this movie are even remotely capable of. Heath took it seriously and gave it his all. Like an actor. Like a GOOD actor. Hell I wouldn't even ask THIS level of dedication of these actors in this movie. Just that they at least give a ****. |
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