Official Movie Poster

[chrisdude]

I guess I just disagree. I can understand a fan wanting a new version of a character to be inspired by old ones. And I can definitely understand an actor digging deep into a character like The Joker. I just think THIS character has such a broad range of difference between well known interpretations, that what is consistent about the character really is as simple as how Ritchson described.

He could pick and choose elements to uphold from different versions, if he wanted to. But, no matter what, some fans are going to say, "Why doesn't he crack jokes?" or "Why doesn't he have a New York accent?" It's impossible to "nail it," when fans all see Raph in different ways, and we would never agree what should be adopted from what interpretations.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Fatal5150

Ok so Getting this thread back on track some people obviously like the new designs to an extent and a lot of people love them all over the internet, I mean look at this poster it looks great. I'm really excited to see how there marketing campaign will look. I'm thinking it will be starting soon with the American toy fairs happening soon and the months ahead, I'm hoping we get something this week end

[samxsteal]

On thing about the poster So we all know they have been showing their Movie toys for a while know. Seeing as we have been getting off hand accounts, So Im thinking this poster was using older rendered models to create a poster for the purpose of use in the toy fairs. Its fair to assume that if this is the case it have been used for quite some time, this is what leads me to believe this is something that does not truly represent how the turtles will look. I'm hoping that something is released soon. I think the poster we have seen is just not well composed and This could easily be fixed. as evidence of the Poster manip Which took pretty much the same thing and made it look so much better.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Things were FINE until Jester took my f***ing chocolate milk. And then *I* wanted to do finger paints but he said he didn't wanna do finger paints, so I pinched him.

And I swear to GOD I'll do it again.

lol Im picturing this is and it quite funny


That's it kids your grounded!!!

ALso finger painting with CHOCOLATE!!!!!!

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Everyone and their mother loves to bring up the example of Heath Ledger's Joker in regards to bad casting choices actually being good, so let's do it again.

You know what Heath did prior to filming?

He locked himself in a hotel room for a month, reading all the Joker material he could find. He spent the entire time perfecting the voice and the mannerisms of the Joker he was portraying.

He kept a diary full of Joker cutouts from comic books and lists upon lists of things the Joker would find funny.

THAT is a level of dedication I doubt these actors in this movie are even remotely capable of.

Heath took it seriously and gave it his all. Like an actor. Like a GOOD actor.

Hell I wouldn't even ask THIS level of dedication of these actors in this movie. Just that they at least give a ****.

If the actor is gonna half ass his research or his role, you're gonna get a half ass product .

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

If the actor is gonna half ass his research or his role, you're gonna get a half ass product .

tell that to Toby Maguire. Now i dont think he was the perfect spider man and thing Andrew Garfield is better, he was still a decent Spiderman and hasn't ever read or much cared about spider-man

[Leo656]

Eeeeeehhh, now that we have a basis for comparison, Toby was pretty flat, IMO.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Eeeeeehhh, now that we have a basis for comparison, Toby was pretty flat, IMO.

especially compared to Andrew though there are those who totally disagree

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Eeeeeehhh, now that we have a basis for comparison, Toby was pretty flat, IMO.

agreed. the raimi trilogy was good, cheesiness aside. but not as good as they could've been had Maguire been a better spider-man maybe he could have if he knew more about the character then what was in the script and what sam raimi told him. when you're an actor portraying a character that's been loved by people based on their characterization and personality I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to do any research. not only would it help you better understand your role but it would give you an idea of why people have come to gravitate to the character in the first place. the idea that there are so many different interpretations that its unnecessary is bull. there are so many different ways to interpret the joker that they've made it canon in the comics as part of his unpredictable nature. that didn't stop heath ledger from reading up on him and now his performace as a comic book supervillain stands as one of the greatest in modern cinema.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

especially compared to Andrew though there are those who totally disagree

That acting is so bad in the amazing Spider-Man right there. The transition from AMbulence to uncle Ben was way to fast. Just watch the scene you'll see what I mean, but other than that it was really good. I liked the movie. Just that one scene gets me every time. Still, if you're working your whole life for something you don't half ass it when you get there!

[Fatal5150]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

On thing about the poster So we all know they have been showing their Movie toys for a while know. Seeing as we have been getting off hand accounts, So Im thinking this poster was using older rendered models to create a poster for the purpose of use in the toy fairs. Its fair to assume that if this is the case it have been used for quite some time, this is what leads me to believe this is something that does not truly represent how the turtles will look. I'm hoping that something is released soon. I think the poster we have seen is just not well composed and This could easily be fixed. as evidence of the Poster manip Which took pretty much the same thing and made it look so much better.

Thanks for the kudos on the manip

I created individual character posters too:



Really hoping we get something official this weekend!

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Ok so Getting this thread back on track some people obviously like the new designs to an extent and a lot of people love them all over the internet, I mean look at this poster it looks great. I'm really excited to see how there marketing campaign will look. I'm thinking it will be starting soon with the American toy fairs happening soon and the months ahead, I'm hoping we get something this week end

That's an over-estimation.

[Fatal5150]

I also created this from the leaked maquettes.



Again, I changed the lips eyes, noses and colors.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

agreed. the raimi trilogy was good, cheesiness aside. but not as good as they could've been had Maguire been a better spider-man maybe he could have if he knew more about the character then what was in the script and what sam raimi told him. when you're an actor portraying a character that's been loved by people based on their characterization and personality I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to do any research. not only would it help you better understand your role but it would give you an idea of why people have come to gravitate to the character in the first place. the idea that there are so many different interpretations that its unnecessary is bull. there are so many different ways to interpret the joker that they've made it canon in the comics as part of his unpredictable nature. that didn't stop heath ledger from reading up on him and now his performace as a comic book supervillain stands as one of the greatest in modern cinema.

Ledger was a great Joker. So were Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson. I'm not trying to take away from his performance. I'm sure he was studied and well-informed. But he was also a good actor. And he had a great script. This argument that his performance is so highly-lauded because he locked himself in a room with a bunch of comics most people haven't read, is lost on me...

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Ledger was a great Joker. So were Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson. I'm not trying to take away from his performance. I'm sure he was studied and well-informed. But he was also a good actor. And he had a great script. This argument that his performance is so highly-lauded because he locked himself in a room with a bunch of comics most people haven't read, is lost on me...

There's plenty of others.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Ledger was a great Joker. So were Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson. I'm not trying to take away from his performance. I'm sure he was studied and well-informed. But he was also a good actor. And he had a great script. This argument that his performance is so highly-lauded because he locked himself in a room with a bunch of comics most people haven't read, is lost on me...

there's no denying the script was great but the point is that he took the time to do the research and base his take on the character on what he learned in that research.His willingness to do that is what made him a great actor.His dedication to understanging the character shows in the preformance he gave and is the reason his joker resonates with both fans and people who just like movies. When you're playing a character with a history, fictional or otherwise its your responsibility to have some understanding of that character for yourself. It shouldn't just come from the director or the script you need to know what motives and drives them to be who they are. Taking the time to do that is what makes the differance between being great and just being adequate.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

there's no denying the script was great but the point is that he took the time to do the research and base his take on the character on what he learned in that research.His willingness to do that is what made him a great actor.His dedication to understanging the character shows in the preformance he gave and is the reason his joker resonates with both fans and people who just like movies. When you're playing a character with a history, fictional or otherwise its your responsibility to have some understanding of that character for yourself. It shouldn't just come from the director or the script you need to know what motives and drives them to be who they are. Taking the time to do that is what makes the differance between being great and just being adequate.

who ever said he research the role was kind of wrong Know he did lock himself in a room for a week but he didn't have Pictures of joker he was keeping a journal but it was him pretending to be his own version of the joker as well ass developing the characters ticks and quirks. and know where does it say the tmnt actors aren't doing this for their roles for this movie. the information that Ledger did any of this was released after the movie released and i think even after he had passed.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

who ever said he research the role was kind of wrong Know he did lock himself in a room for a week but he didn't have Pictures of joker he was keeping a journal but it was him pretending to be his own version of the joker as well ass developing the characters ticks and quirks. and now where does it say they're not or haven't done this for this movie. the information that Ledger did any of this was released after the movie released and i think even after he had passed.

Doesn't change the fact that he took the time to figure the character out for himself. That's what actors that are serious about their craft do. I can't say they didn't do that for their roles in this movie but if they didn't its just laziness.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

Doesn't change the fact that he took the time to figure the character out for himself. That's what actors that are serious about their craft do. I can't say they didn't do that for their roles in this movie but if they didn't its just laziness.

IM just saying we dont know their not doing that, or haven't done that for this movie people are just assuming they dont care enough to do anything of the sort.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

IM just saying we dont know their not doing that, or haven't done that for this movie people are just assuming they dont care enough to do anything of the sort.

I'm hoping they do care and their not just in it for the paycheck.no way to know until the movie comes out though

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

there's no denying the script was great but the point is that he took the time to do the research and base his take on the character on what he learned in that research.His willingness to do that is what made him a great actor.His dedication to understanging the character shows in the preformance he gave and is the reason his joker resonates with both fans and people who just like movies. When you're playing a character with a history, fictional or otherwise its your responsibility to have some understanding of that character for yourself. It shouldn't just come from the director or the script you need to know what motives and drives them to be who they are. Taking the time to do that is what makes the differance between being great and just being adequate.

Maybe he locked himself in a room, acting into the mirror, journaling, scrapbooking, and everything else - and that's great. He immersed himself in a character, and gave a convincing performance, because he was a good actor. But he could have done that with an original character, as well. Was research the big factor here? Or was this just an actor giving a great performance? Maybe he culled Joker minutiae from history, but who would catch it? This take on the Joker, however inspired, was new to the audience, at large.

And Raph is a character with a much shallower history. I'm saying this guy Ritchson knows all he needs to know about Raph, because there's not much to know. He's simple. Many of us got over Megan Fox because we don't think April will be hard to play. I think the turtles are the same way. And if this character does have some depth, it's probably made up, because it always is, when TMNT is reinvented. The turtles have new traits and new quirks, every time, because not much is constant about them. You've got the leader, the geek, the goofball, and the one with attitude. Everything else is subject to change. Always has been.