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Old 02-18-2014, 05:40 PM   #1
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Can you enjoy shows when you hate the direction it goes in?

What the title says, can you enjoy a series when it takes a turn you absolutely hate? How far does your tolerance go when **** happens and you feel it messes up something you enjoyed. I hate when this happens, noithing is worse than when you get into something, be it a movie or a tv series or book series, or whatever, and it takes a turn you you hate. For me it almost always spoils it completely for me. Does a ****** ending to a movie or tv series spoil an other wise good story if it hits the fan for you at the end? Can you ignore it and like other things about it if they were good or is it ruined for you. After that point? Can you like something if a character you really liked gets ****ed over in the story?

If a story has a piss poor ending it ruins it for me to the point I feel mad that I devoted 90-100 minutes of my life watching a movie, or reading a book.

I really hate when a character does something I just cannot get behind. And example of this is the Good Wife. I have been watching it lately and suddenly the main character is a lawyer who was hired after being out of work for 13 years and then suddenly she stabs her boss in the back to start her own firm under his nose. I thought this was stupid because she acts full of herself and I honestly find her to be at fault here. Her boss is being made out be the bad guy for lashing out but I cannot say I agree with her actions and I can not root for her. How can I watch something when I want the good guy to get what is coming to them? You guys ever have this happn to you?
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:03 PM   #2
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Depends. A good example for me is "Lois & Clark". I'm a huge Superman fan and I loved Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher's portrayal of the title characters, but after Season Two it just started a long, steady slide into Lousy. Season Four in particular was awful and had probably the worst final episode of any show I was ever a fan of. I hung in there based on how big a fan of the characters I am, and how good the first two seasons were, but at times it was pretty painful.

"Roseanne" was a show I absolutely loved until the last two seasons. I tried to keep up with it, but I mostly gave up. To this day, when I see episodes from the last two seasons I avoid them.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:21 PM   #3
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It depends. If its a movie then yes it ruins it for me because even if the majority was good the ending is the "punchline". It should do the build up justice...or if its a bad movie, having a good ending could redeem it.

As for shows this sorta thing happened to me recently with Bones, the crime drama. It had a villain named Pelant that was built up over a couple seasons and was portrayed as almost unstoppable. I really liked him too. The actor was good but the episode where they finally kill him was very anticlimactic and he was taken out so easily it was out of character. Like they rushed through it to get it over with.

It doesn't ruin the show for me as that was just one story arc but it makes me think they might abruptly wrap up other storylines theyve built up in the future.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:37 PM   #4
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If a show jumps the shark and becomes terrible then no, there's no reason to force yourself to keep watching. Luckily I haven't watched many shows like this. I mean we all know Simpsons turned to crap after Season 10 but since its just a sitcom you can ignore what comes after and it makes no difference.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:06 PM   #5
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Depends on the context...sometimes i feel if a movie ending is not what i hoped but it keeps me thinking about it after then it did its job of leaving an impact

Of course im not talking about poorly written endings or twists that make no sense.

In terms of tv shows... If it makes no sense oo starts to get stupid ill usually ditch the show...cant stick with it
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:59 PM   #6
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No.
If I hate its direction I simply won't watch it. But it also depends how the direction is changed and for what purpose.
And I agree with Lois and Clark. What the hell happened?
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:49 AM   #7
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The original producer and most of the original writers left, is the short answer. There was a lot more to it but that was among the biggest reasons.
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Old 02-19-2014, 04:59 AM   #8
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Sliders is one of the most notorious examples of fans having the paitence of saints despite the collosal s*it-stain dumped on the show after it's first two impeccably crisp and thought-provoking seasons. I have a bit of a soft spot for seasons three to five, but it is littered with inconsistencies, idiot ball plots, careless characterisation, cruel ways of dispatching popular and lovable actors, and generally going from a mix of comedy, hard science, and strong satire to brainless action/adventure shlock
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:39 AM   #9
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^^ HOLY CRAP Sliders was pretty great. I totally forgot about that show.
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:06 PM   #10
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Sliders was a show with such potential. i saw John Rhys Davies at a convention and he pretty much said the same thing. even so i still enjoyed most of the show as a guilty pleasure.

ps. seeing John Rhys Davies talking in person is one of the most inspirational things i've ever been to.
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:44 PM   #11
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I usually try and stick with shows regardless. The best example that I can think of is Doctor Who. The sixth season I feel was pretty meh, with most the episodes starting off good and then being ruined by some ******** anticlimax (usually involving some form of 'the power of love'), that on top with all the River Song stuff (whom is a character I can't stand) made it a tough season for me to sit through. I'm glad I did though, as Season 7 (for the most part) was pretty good.

The only other example I can think of is Angel. Seasons 1-3 and 5 are great, but Season 4 is a little below that. The season started out great, and then, out of nowhere, we find out that Cordelia's evil. That moment just felt like they made it up as they went along as there wasn't really any build up to her being evil. THEN we get to the real ********: we find out that Cordelia's pregnant and that Connor (whom is Angel's son, and was a baby a year ago) is the father. The scenes between Connor and evil Cordelia feel really, REALLY creepy. However, I stuck with the season because I love the characters, plus some of the dialogue made it seem like it was kind of self aware of how creepy and disgusting the plot was. What's great is that, after what I consider the worst season of Angel, came the strongest (and unfortunately) it's last season.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:55 PM   #12
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Speaking of Joss Whedon shows, Buffy the vampire slayer lost me a little bit with Season 6, at least the second half. The first half of Season 6 was pretty good, but the other half while not terrible became way too depressing. And in Season 7, I didn't like how the potential slayers overshadowed the other characters, but the finale was good.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:03 PM   #13
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It depends. Lost is something that killed itself to me in Season 3 and got progressively worse. I still haven't watched the final season.

Then there's Twin Peaks, which I'm watching for the first time right now. The first season is spectacular and the first half-ish of season 2 is great, up until the conclusion of the Laura Palmer stuff, at which point the show has absolutely f*cking lost the thread. It has bits an pieces of what made it so good, but it's buried by utter sh*t. I'm going to finish it, since there isn't much left and I've heard the show ends pretty nuts, but it's a struggle to make it through some of the awful stuff they did.

I find I fall off of almost all bandwagons eventually, just because I don't have the time to keep up with everything I like. Case in point, I love Regular Show and Adventure Time, but I haven't watched either in over 6 months. So, yeah. I can't keep up with the stuff I like, let alone the stuff that get bad.
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Old 02-19-2014, 03:39 PM   #14
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Speaking of Joss Whedon shows, Buffy the vampire slayer lost me a little bit with Season 6, at least the second half. The first half of Season 6 was pretty good, but the other half while not terrible became way too depressing. And in Season 7, I didn't like how the potential slayers overshadowed the other characters, but the finale was good.
I'm the opposite in regards to Season 6. I found it, for the most part, not as good until the Dark Willow episodes. I just thought that The Trio were awful as villains. It's been a while since I've seen Season 7, but I remember enjoying it, although I agree, there were way too many potentials
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I'll drop it if I'm not enjoying it. Think Heroes was the last series I gave up on. It was getting progressively worse, and when that carnie episodes started, I had to go...
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:53 PM   #16
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Nope. If I get sick of the direction a show is going in I'll usually drop it pretty easily. But if it's something I'm super duper attached to, like TMNT, I'll give it a longer run because I still love the franchise and I WANT to be up to speed with everything and show my support. But even so, I have my limits of what kind of nonsense I'll put up with, so my attention will begin to wane. I can already feel it starting to fade now as I haven't even bothered to watch the last two episodes, but I still want to give them a try sometime. But as I said, TMNT's an exception, I'm not nearly as attached to most other shows (except for maybe Once Upon a Time and Criminal Minds), so if the direction of the plot starts to go sour I tend to move on and find something else. Don't got time to sit around watching stuff that bores me.
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I'll drop it if I'm not enjoying it. Think Heroes was the last series I gave up on. It was getting progressively worse, and when that carnie episodes started, I had to go...
Ah Heroes. I forgot all about that tbh. I stuck with it until partway through the Third season, then gave up because of how overly complicated it got.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:40 PM   #18
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There are shows I could never stop liking no matter what happens, such as TMNT '87 and 2k3.

Also, Doug, despite all those changes in Disney's Doug, Doug's a show I will always like.

And The Legend Of Korra, I wasn't happy with what happened to Korra at the end of season 2 but I still think I'm gonna enjoy the future episodes.

As for Spongebob, I'm starting to not like it. I can't stand how Squidward always gets aggrivated about Spongebob being near him and annoying him. I would enjoy Spongebob if Squidward moved somewhere else and Spongebob stopped bothering him.

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And The Legend Of Korra, I wasn't happy that Korra lost her Avatar powers but I still think I'm gonna enjoy the future episodes.
I have never done this before, but SPOILERS YOU F*CKING PIECE OF SH*T!
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^^ Chill.
Even though I agree about the spoilers.
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