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Old 03-04-2014, 03:51 PM   #201
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Are you guys referring to BUBSY the video game bobcat? I loved the game, but don't remember a toon for it.
And you're probably better off for it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:58 PM   #202
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I'll tell you one of the most current cartoons I don't care for. Breadwinners! Caught an actual episode to see if it was as bad as the commercials and yep, still didn't like it. Too many fart jokes! I'm sure you guys have seen the commercials if you've watched new eps or reruns of TMNT on Nick? Eric Bauza is one of the main stars in that one from what I've read. C'mon Eric, just play TigerClaw full time, dude! lol Kidding of course. (Sigh) This one will probably be a hit amongst the kiddos. Guess I just don't get TV for kids these days. Hmm, does anybody during adulthood? Ah well, glad the voice actors and crew will be getting work. So why do I still think Rocko's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy are gold compared to stuff now? What were the creators of this new show thinkin when they came up withnames like SwaySway and BuhDuce? I'm sure parents were asking the same thing about Ren and Stimp. Oh God, I think I've depressed myself now. haha! I need a good bonk on the head with MST3K's Servo and Kro's clownhammer.
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I'll tell you one of the most current cartoons I don't care for. Breadwinners! Caught an actual episode to see if it was as bad as the commercials and yep, still didn't like it. Too many fart jokes! I'm sure you guys have seen the commercials if you've watched new eps or reruns of TMNT on Nick? Eric Bauza is one of the main stars in that one from what I've read. C'mon Eric, just play TigerClaw full time, dude! lol Kidding of course. (Sigh) This one will probably be a hit amongst the kiddos. Guess I just don't get TV for kids these days. Hmm, does anybody during adulthood? Ah well, glad the voice actors and crew will be getting work. So why do I still think Rocko's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy are gold compared to stuff now? What were the creators of this new show thinkin when they came up withnames like SwaySway and BuhDuce? I'm sure parents were asking the same thing about Ren and Stimp. Oh God, I think I've depressed myself now. haha! I need a good bonk on the head with MST3K's Servo and Kro's clownhammer.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:32 PM   #204
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It's like they forgot that, despite him being Italian, Mario and Luigi were actually born and raised in Brooklyn in pretty much every telling of the story until 1996.
The thing is, that only existed in the western Mario expanded universe stories, in Japan he was always just some guy who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom. Don't get me wrong, I hold the whole Brooklyn origin story close to my heart, I think it adds allot to Mario's humanity. However, since these stories were made outside Japan and Nintendo is a Japanese company, this origin will always be ignored by Nintendo.

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I always much preferred the voices of Mario and Luigi from the cartoons to the awful voices in the modern games from Mario64 on.
I liked Lou Albano as Mario; he gave the character a unique Brooklyn and Italian accent. Walker Boone from the other two Mario cartoons, on the other hand, went straight for what you'd think a plumber from Brooklyn would sound like. Not bad, but nothing interesting either. Interestingly, Charles Martinet was originally going to give Mario a voice similar to the one Walker Boone gave him. He decided against it, thinking it would be too harsh for children to hear, and gave Mario a more friendly feel. Thus giving Mario the voice he has today.

I've always liked Mario's voice from the games, theres just something so happy about it. To me it sounds like an Italian Mickey Mouse, which is appropriate since Mario is pretty much the Mickey Mouse of video games.

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not all cartoons today are as bad, case in point : Busby
Eh, I never thought the Bubsy cartoon was bad, it just didn't do anything new. It made me smile a couple of times, at least. I guess I'm just a sucker for slapstick comedy.

Now, if you want to watch a bad video game cartoon pilot, look no further then the Battletoads cartoon. It's like an even more kid friendly version of the Fred Wolf Turtles, ironic because the Battletoads games were always advertised as a more grown up version of the turtles. It has bad puns, bad slang and just feels like a bad Ninja Turtles parody. Whats odd about it is that the cartoon was written by David Wise of all people, the head writer of the original Ninja Turtles show.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:43 PM   #205
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The thing is, that only existed in the western Mario expanded universe stories, in Japan he was always just some guy who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom. Don't get me wrong, I hold the whole Brooklyn origin story close to my heart, I think it adds allot to Mario's humanity. However, since these stories were made outside Japan and Nintendo is a Japanese company, this origin will always be ignored by Nintendo.

I liked Lou Albano as Mario; he gave the character a unique Brooklyn and Italian accent. Walker Boone from the other two Mario cartoons, on the other hand, went straight for what you'd think a plumber from Brooklyn would sound like. Not bad, but nothing interesting either. Interestingly, Charles Martinet was originally going to give Mario a voice similar to the one Walker Boone gave him. He decided against it, thinking it would be too harsh for children to hear, and gave Mario a more friendly feel. Thus giving Mario the voice he has today.

I've always liked Mario's voice from the games, theres just something so happy about it. To me it sounds like an Italian Mickey Mouse, which is appropriate since Mario is pretty much the Mickey Mouse of video games.


Eh, I never thought the Bubsy cartoon was bad, it just didn't do anything new. It made me smile a couple of times, at least. I guess I'm just a sucker for slapstick comedy.

Now, if you want to watch a bad video game cartoon pilot, look no further then the Battletoads cartoon. It's like an even more kid friendly version of the Fred Wolf Turtles, ironic because the Battletoads games were always advertised as a more grown up version of the turtles. It has bad puns, bad slang and just feels like a bad Ninja Turtles parody. Whats odd about it is that the cartoon was written by David Wise of all people, the head writer of the original Ninja Turtles show.
Ugh, Battletoads is even worse.
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I have too agree. God, I miss Avatar The Last Airbender.
My bh really wants to start that one. I know it's off topic, but I gotta say I'd love to see Airbender. Heard nothing but good things about that cartoon.

How bout the Lego related toons? Anyone have an opinion on those? I tried the Star Wars specials like Padawan Menace and all that for around 5 mins a piece. Wanna say they made a few Marvel ones or maybe just one. Not much for goofiness mixed with my Marvel, DC, or SW. Sure, I'd be fair and try any show once though. Comic relief's alright with me but sprinkled here and there. Not much for being hit over the head with it every two to three mins. Now if it's straight up comedy/satire like Simpsons or Futurama, I'm all over that. I did like Family Guy some years ago but for some strange reason, it stopped being funny all of a sudden. I don't remember being offended by anything. I just lost interest. There have been a few random youtube clips that make me laugh like Peter's Russian waitor doing the I'm So Happy To Finally Be Back Home bit. Love that song! Lord, I sound picky. lol!
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I'm gonna just throw this out there because I've not read this whole thread. But I can honestly say that I think Scooby Doo is one of the worst shows ever. I just hate everything about it. Really the only Hanna Barbera that I DO like is Smurfs. Captain Caveman was also pretty cool.
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I'm gonna just throw this out there because I've not read this whole thread. But I can honestly say that I think Scooby Doo is one of the worst shows ever.
My sister never liked Scooby-Doo either; I, however, could never get enough of it. Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island will always be the high point of the series for me. It's a shame the movie sequels all got progressively worse. I also must say I greatly dislike Matthew Lillard and Frank Welker as the replacement voices of Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. I understand Casey Kasem wanted to retire and that Don Messick is sadly no longer with us, but Scott Innes did a great Shaggy and Scooby-Doo from 1998-2009. Matthew's Shaggy voice sounds so deep and forced, like back when your parents used to make bad impersonations of your favorite cartoon characters. Same thing with Frank’s Scooby-Doo, it's just too deep compared to the original voice. At least it's better than Frank's Garfield voice, I guess.

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My sister never liked Scooby-Doo either; I, however, could never get enough of it. Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island will always be the high point of the series for me. It's a shame the movie sequels all got progressively worse. I also must say I greatly dislike Matthew Lillard and Frank Welker as the replacement voices of Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. I understand Casey Kasem wanted to retire and that Don Messick is sadly no longer with us, but Scott Innes did a great Shaggy and Scooby-Doo from 1998-2009. Matthew's Shaggy voice sounds so deep and forced, like back when your parents used to make bad impersonations of your favorite cartoon characters. Same thing with Frank’s Scooby-Doo, it's just too deep compared to the original voice. At least it's better than Frank's Garfield voice, I guess.

Whoa, whoa, whoa; you didn't even like Wacky Races? Well...all I can say is...

LOL. I never watched that show. Frank Welker is the man on Ghostbusters though. He makes an excellent Ray and he really nails that sorta "dorky" and "every man" type character. Who could EVER replace Lorenzo Music though? NOT Dave Coulier I will tell you that! I know those were two different shows but it's weird that Lorenzo and Dave were together on Ghostbusters until Bill Murray ran his stupid gob and then Frank Welker winds up playing Garfield and also Bill Murray winds up playing Garfield. That is confusing to even read. LOL.
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I never realized how many people disliked the Scooby - Doo series, I have to agree the films are getting worse and worse, shoving Daph / Fred hints down our face doesn't help either, I thought they did a better job with it in the early films / series while making it cute but too much can annoy people and it takes away from other characters. Remember Shaggy and Scooby? Aren't they the main characters? I miss those days

Yah, 90 Scooby films were fun, wonder why they went back to the traditional Masked villain of the week type flicks? I enjoyed the real Monsters story for films. That's right, used to be a big Scooby fan, new films that focus too much on one pairing though annoys the Hell out of me so I stopped collecting the films

Newer Spongebob episodes suck! Watch one preview for the new episodes and I can't even stomach it, why it's still popular is beyond me

New FOP episodes, they keep making the characters look worse and worse. Why don't they end the show already?

Newer Simpsons, who the heck are these characters! I don't know them, it's like they aren't even the same ones we knew and loved from the early episodes. Lisa these days shoves her opinions / political views or whatever on her family or friends. Homer, better father than mine but worse than the Homer we knew, treats Bart like crap and awful husband to Marge. While Bart's changed a lot from his 90s self, I think I enjoy him the most but he gets less episodes these days besides the Sideshow Bob ones or Prank episodes and is treated awful by the writers a lot of the times, that really doesn't bold well with me. They treat Lisa like the Queen ( When at times she shouldn't be ) And treat Bart like he's a Monster ( When at times he doesn't even deserve it ) So yah, gave it up a while ago

I know I'm going to sound like one of those I miss the 90s shows ways people, that's not true. I enjoyed a few of the newer shows past the 90s, My Life as the Teenage Robot for example or The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron or all the Ben 10 shows. Really, don't like what I'm seeing on Nick or Cartoon Network these days. Some have too much potty humor or have horrible animation that I can't bare to watch with no humor to back it up. Let's look at Ed, Edd n Eddy for this, animation wasn't good first but the humor made up for it and love able characters ( Besides Kevin or Sarah ) Double D being my favorite, but yah know. I'm enjoying Disney Animated shows these days more and more. Mickey Mouse shorts are fun too.
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Brickleberry is the most Unispired, poorly done rip off of Family Guy and South Park. The Animation is lazy, the characters are bland, and the "comedy" is too mean-spirited and too juvenile to be considered even remotely funny.
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Brickleberry is the most Unispired, poorly done rip off of Family Guy and South Park. The Animation is lazy, the characters are bland, and the "comedy" is too mean-spirited and too juvenile to be considered even remotely funny.
Brickleberry feels like one of those comedys (and I use that term loosely) that was shocking just to be shocking, which annoys me to no end. I saw one episode and hated it. I couldn't stomach any more.
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Brickleberry feels like one of those comedys (and I use that term loosely) that was shocking just to be shocking, which annoys me to no end. I saw one episode and hated it. I couldn't stomach any more.
Same here.
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Same here.
Brickleberry isn't that great... but I do love to watch Tosh.O. That dude is funny!!
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I never realized how many people disliked the Scooby - Doo series
I still have high hopes for the Scooby-Doo series, maybe someday Warner Bros will get their act together.

What I love so much about Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, besides just being an awesome film, is that it added continuity to the series now that the gang are now adults. It's fun to look back on A Pup Named Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Doo Where Are You? and see the characters grow and develop into who they are as adults. Each show also in retrospect fit with their ages, As little kids A Pup Named Scooby Doo was wacky and over the top, As teenagers Scooby-Doo Where Are You? was for the most part mellow and carefree, and as adults things are now serious and more mature then before, but never losing or forgetting the ridiculous humor that made Scooby-Doo popular to begin with. This movie celebrates Scooby-Doo's history, while Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated took nearly every moment to belittle it.

If you've never seen it, take the time to check out Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, you won't be disappointed. Unless you never liked Scooby-Doo to begin with, but even then I recommend giving it a chance. It's the smartest and most well done story in the franchise's history.
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I have to agree the films are getting worse and worse,
Scooby-Doo and the Witches Ghost was a decent sequel, not as good as Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, but still enjoyable. Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders had a much lighter tone compared to the other two movies and for the most part it's just ok. Scooby-Doo and Cyber Chase is about as good as the previous one, but makes up for it with a Turtles Forever like plot where the Scooby gang get to work with their past digital selves from Scooby-Doo Where Are You?. Every movie after that is exactly what you'd think a direct to video Scooby movie would be; predictable and forgettable.

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Remember Shaggy and Scooby? Aren't they the main characters? I miss those days
They probably don't give Shaggy as much screen time anymore because Matthew Lillard does such a horrible Shaggy impersonation. I'd say that they only hired him because he did Shaggy in the live-action movies, but even that doesn’t make any sense because...

Anyone else see Looney Tunes Back in Action? There's a scene in the movie where the cartoon Shaggy and Scooby complain to Matthew Lillard about his performance in the live-action movies. The scene goes like this:

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Matthew: I'm sorry you feel that way, I was just trying to be really into your character.

Shaggy: If you, like, goof on me in the sequel, hahaha-I'm coming after you!
So there you go, Warner Bros admitted that Matt's Shaggy voice is terrible, and then they went and hired him as the official voice of Shaggy! Arrgggh!

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I really liked Scooby Doo on Zombie Island/Witches Ghost/Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase and wanted to see more of that animation/art style but there has been some good Scooby movies since then...

Aloha, Loch Ness Monster, Camp Scare, Abracadbra-Doo and Mask of the Blue Falcon. These are the ones I felt were entertaining but still kept the writing plausible without being too over the top.

They weren't as serious as Zombie Island/Witches Ghost...or semi-serious as Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase but they weren't meant to be.

Aloha and Loch Ness (along with the others from that era) used the art style of the 'Whats New?' series which is fine but I really like that they've adopted the classic style for the more recent ones. I mean you can tell its based on the original look except cleaned up. Its nice.

They could have easily used the Mystery Inc. style which I never really liked.
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Crash Canyon - It gives Brickleberry a run for it's money in the plagiarism department. But whereas that show ripped off Family Guy's animation and South Parks humor, THIS show steals from Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and The Cleveland Show.
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I really liked Scooby Doo on Zombie Island/Witches Ghost/Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase and wanted to see more of that animation/art style but there has been some good Scooby movies since then...

Aloha, Loch Ness Monster, Camp Scare, Abracadbra-Doo and Mask of the Blue Falcon. These are the ones I felt were entertaining but still kept the writing plausible without being too over the top.

They weren't as serious as Zombie Island/Witches Ghost...or semi-serious as Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase but they weren't meant to be.

Aloha and Loch Ness (along with the others from that era) used the art style of the 'Whats New?' series which is fine but I really like that they've adopted the classic style for the more recent ones. I mean you can tell its based on the original look except cleaned up. Its nice.

They could have easily used the Mystery Inc. style which I never really liked.
It's the newer ones, for me they've been too Fred / Daph romance lately. We get it, they are like Soul mates of this series, we don't need every freakin film to tell us this. Not to mention it takes away from the other characters, not just Shaggy either but Scooby - Doo ( Who's supposed to be the main character )

I did like the newer films till after the few of Mask of the Blue Falcon, I just can't get into the series now do to what I just said.
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It's the newer ones, for me they've been too Fred / Daph romance lately. We get it, they are like Soul mates of this series, we don't need every freakin film to tell us this. Not to mention it takes away from the other characters, not just Shaggy either but Scooby - Doo ( Who's supposed to be the main character )

I did like the newer films till after the few of Mask of the Blue Falcon, I just can't get into the series now do to what I just said.
Actually I don't think the Fred/Daphne relationship is that in-your-face. The only one where it was a big thing was in the more recent Stage Fright. Unless youre referring to the TV series too.

Maybe they'll continue from where Stage Fright left off but the others still get alot of screen time. The ratio between characters seems pretty balanced imo.

Ive never really thought of Scooby as the main character exactly. Its all of them. I mean even in the original its not really focused on him.
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Actually I don't think the Fred/Daphne relationship is that in-your-face. The only one where it was a big thing was in the more recent Stage Fright. Unless youre referring to the TV series too.

Maybe they'll continue from where Stage Fright left off but the others still get alot of screen time. The ratio between characters seems pretty balanced imo.

Ive never really thought of Scooby as the main character exactly. Its all of them. I mean even in the original its not really focused on him.
The last few that I've seen on Cartoon Network have either Fred or Daph getting jealous of the character of the day film, which takes up a good portion of it besides solving that mystery which is Fred's thing. So, what does that leave for Velma / Shaggy / Scooby? You never thought Scooby was the main character of the series? Did you not ever watch the 80s shows? 13 Ghosts of Scooby - Doo? All the Scooby and Scrappy shows? The first three films? In the first series I'd agree with you on that, seemed to have the perfect balance of the characters while making you know who the star was. New viewers must be confused thinking Fred's the main character and that Scooby's just a mascot, which is nuts! Not that I hate Fred like I used to, back in th older shows I hated that guy cuz of how bossy he was to the guy's, now I like him but doesn't mean, oh you get what I mean right?

Mostly I can't stand how much the romance has been done as of late. I prefer the 90s films, Zombie Islands / Witch's Ghost films, they knew how to work with it while not leaving the other characters behind
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