What do you NOT want to see in the Nick show?

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

I agree with sentiment that I would not like to see a romance between April and Donny fully flourish.

However, I am perfectly fine with seeing more of Donatello's growing infatuation with April. Maybe after awhile, it slowly begins to sink in to Donatello's mind that his want for a relationship with April is simply inconceivable, and that for her well being, he has to forgo it. This realization that occurs to Donatello may be tragic, but it can lead to many interesting possibilities, and more importantly, it shows another one of the turtles maturing and selflessly sacrificing something of their own for the greater good. An episode devoted to this could be a fantastic dissection of his character, and bring the April/Donatello arc at a satisfying close.

[Coola Yagami]

Naw, let them hook up. Otherwise all of this would have been a waste of our time. Casey just came out of nowhere and already started treating April as if he she was 'his girl'. Don has to step up.

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Naw, let them hook up. Otherwise all of this would have been a waste of our time. Casey just came out of nowhere and already started treating April as if he she was 'his girl'. Don has to step up.

No, it wouldn't have been. As I said, if Donatello finally lets go of the idea of being with April romantically, it isn't him giving up or submitting out of shyness, or even cowardice. It's him maturely moving on and growing up. It's a bold and noble sacrifice. He's no longer a hopeless romantic, and is now step closer to full maturity.

[snake]

1 Venus
2- Venus
3- Venus
4- April Mutating
5- Venus

[blindturtle02]

The Bads from Donatello's Bad Time! They can stay in the 87 series, thanks. I like them just fine, but they wouldn't fit in 2012. Although Paulsen's Pat Buttram always makes me laugh. Classic!

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger Ninjutsu

No, it wouldn't have been. As I said, if Donatello finally lets go of the idea of being with April romantically, it isn't him giving up or submitting out of shyness, or even cowardice. It's him maturely moving on and growing up. It's a bold and noble sacrifice. He's no longer a hopeless romantic, and is now step closer to full maturity.

Which might work for a long-lasting never-ending comic book series, but not in this format. It's gonna be almost embarassing to look back at season 1 and 2 and see Donnie crush all over April basically 'wasting his time'.

Kinda hope he finds someone else. One does not just.... abandon love and immerse themselves in their work. If April doesn't work, I hope they have enough sense to make him look elsewhere and not just act as if the crush thing we've seen for 2 seasons never happened.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

A female mutant is long overdue. Apparently with Mutagen raining all over the city, having a vagina makes you immune to the effects.

Ninjara, Mona Lisa and Alopex are nothing more than love interests. Do we really need another ship in this show?

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Which might work for a long-lasting never-ending comic book series, but not in this format. It's gonna be almost embarassing to look back at season 1 and 2 and see Donnie crush all over April basically 'wasting his time'.

Kinda hope he finds someone else. One does not just.... abandon love and immerse themselves in their work. If April doesn't work, I hope they have enough sense to make him look elsewhere and not just act as if the crush thing we've seen for 2 seasons never happened.

Teenagers crush over women all the time. I'm not saying that Donatello should abandon all hope for love, it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen. Also, I simply fail to see how time was ever wasted during this story arc. It's not embarrassing either. If a character has a rivalry with another character and that rivalry ends, would that mean their rivalry was pointless? Of course not. The characters have changed in some way and will do things differently in ways they've never have before. Also, I don't recall the April/Donatello relationship to ever be all that intrinsic to the plot anyhow. It needs to be resolved soon because it's running out of steam.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger Ninjutsu

it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen.

Why exactly is that? You see interspecies romances played straight and for laughs in children's movies all the time these days. Besides, Leonardo and Radical had a relationship in the Mirage continuity's far future so that messes up your idea of things right there.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

Because it's actually interesting and something rarely done with the characters, the whole "sons of the silent age" aspect has been played to death and if you don't evolve characters and give them new angles to develop, you're left with a pretty stale bunch that don't have much mass appeal except to generic angsty twentysometings who can't get laid. Some of us actually CAN and would like to relate to characters who can do the same.

[Luckyday]

The more I think about it, it's probably more likely for them to be solely attract to humans. It's not matter of choice but it's more of a subconscious level and a side effect of being raise ( of what I can only assume) in isolation from not being able interact with any other mutants only knowing for sure that humans exist. In any case they're more likely be attracted to mutants of mammal variety that look very similar to human women, except maybe Mikey.

Now this doesn't mean they can't fall for reptile mutants but if they had a choice between two girls who both openly attracted to them but one of them looks human and other is reptile with zero mammal traits (no hair, no boobs). They would go for the human. Hell falling for a female turtle of same species would take a lot mental effort because in their head they would look too much like a boy.

[Karai Samurai]

1. Apritello past this season.
2. Any female turtles.
3. Mutant overload/just throwing in mutants to sell toys.
4. Another generic Kraang episode.
5. The flanderization of Mikey or any other character.
6. Donnie not being developed outside of his relationship with April.
7. April not being developed outside of her relationships with Casey and Donnie.

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Why exactly is that? You see interspecies romances played straight and for laughs in children's movies all the time these days. Besides, Leonardo and Radical had a relationship in the Mirage continuity's far future so that messes up your idea of things right there.

Because it's actually interesting and something rarely done with the characters, the whole "sons of the silent age" aspect has been played to death and if you don't evolve characters and give them new angles to develop, you're left with a pretty stale bunch that don't have much mass appeal except to generic angsty twentysometings who can't get laid. Some of us actually CAN and would like to relate to characters who can do the same.

I guess it depends on how you classify inter-species romances. In films like Kung Fu Panda for example, species is never acknowledged outside of the physical differences between the species. It's never made a point to address due to the nature of the world they live in. In Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, species is incredibly important, what with all the mutations and alien species all about. The alternate earth they live on has similar perceptions to our own, and view species differently than other kinds of fictional realms. For them, I doubt it's as acceptable to have an inter-species romance as it is in some other kid's films like Kung Fu Panda.

And also, they aren't in their twenties in the Nick show, I believe. They're teenagers. Angst and not getting laid is kind of an inherit trait of being a teenager (I would know, sadly). You can still relate with other things about the characters, but relating to a character isn't the primary importance. I don't think many people identified with Batman, but it doesn't make him any less a complex character with tons of avenues to explore.

We'll simply have to agree to disagree. Personally, I feel there are infinite possibilities to develop the characters outside of romance. In my opinion, love interests and love subplots are done to death in modern TV and film. I also don't think it's a theme that works with this kind of fiction.
It's something that does warrant attention though. I think there are ways to do this, but I don't think the Nick show has done it correctly, and I have no idea how they'll continue. It'll be interesting to find out.

Originally Posted by Luckyday

The more I think about it, it's probably more likely for them to be solely attract to humans. It's not matter of choice but it's more of a subconscious level and a side effect of being raise ( of what I can only assume) in isolation from not being able interact with any other mutants only knowing for sure that humans exist.

I really don't want to get into "Turtle Anatomy." It's something that I don't think the authors would have though of during the characters' conception and something that doesn't really need to be pointed out during the show. Still, it's a good idea.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger Ninjutsu

I really don't want to get into "Turtle Anatomy." It's something that I don't think the authors would have though of during the characters' conception and something that doesn't really need to be pointed out during the show. Still, it's a good idea.

More like turtle psychology, which is something that we only saw a rare glimpse of in Sons of the Silent age. I can't help but wanting to know more of what goes on in those green little heads. It's the kind of stuff that makes xenofiction so cool to read.

[DarthEmpress]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Ninjara, Mona Lisa and Alopex are nothing more than love interests. Do we really need another ship in this show?

New female mutants don't have to be teenagers. If they were adults in the Foot Clan (looks like the place to be for mutants...), they wouldn't be portrayed as love interests. This show has enough shipping with the Casey/April/Don love triangle going on.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by DarthEmpress

New female mutants don't have to be teenagers. If they were adults in the Foot Clan (looks like the place to be for mutants...), they wouldn't be portrayed as love interests. This show has enough shipping with the Casey/April/Don love triangle going on.

Tell me about it.

anyway, if they did introduce Alopex (which would be AWESOME) I'd like her to be older (like at least 20) so no love stuff can come from it.

at this point...I want all the new girls to be either older or younger (than the turtles) just so they won't turn into a love interest

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Lone Ranger Ninjutsu

Teenagers crush over woman all the time. I'm not saying that Donatello should abandon all hope for love, it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen. Also, I simply fail to see how time was ever wasted during this story arc. It's not embarrassing either. If a character has a rivalry with another character and that rivalry ends, would that mean their rivalry was pointless? Of course not. The characters have changed in some way and will do things differently in ways they've never have before. Also, I don't recall the April/Donatello relationship to ever be all that intrinsic to the plot anyhow. It needs to be resolved soon because it's running out of steam.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

Teenagers crush period! Either it be boys or girl. And why do the Turtles need romantic interest. They really don't, but it's happened in previous installments, so why not?