Should Donnie just move on from April?

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

this is the worst version of Donatello by far, and that includes lobotomized version from SOTO...

Really? I'd say he's the best. I think the problem is that all of you guys seem to associate him with ONLY the whole April thing. He has the pressure of creating a retro mutagen, and he feels the stress of Kirby and Timothy being mutated, and feels as though it's his fault. Not only that, but Tim was his only real friend (besides April) and he was Don's responsibility. Now that he's mutated and basically lost his mind, Donnie pretty much lost the only person that respected him. And how about Metalhead? He took pride in that, and no one even appreciated it. After making it the coolest thing ever, and when it finally proves to be extremely useful...it's gone. Another thing is his brothers. They are usually always jerks to him, especially Raph. Mike seems to be the only one who's nice, but then again, he's nice to everyone. Leo and Raph usually make him feel like he's worthless and doesn't contribute anything to the team, but little do they realize that they would have all died a long time ago along with the Kraang taking over if it weren't for Don. Then there's the April/Casey thing on top of all that...

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

They are usually always jerks to him, especially Raph. Mike seems to be the only one who's nice, but then again, he's nice to everyone. Leo and Raph usually make him feel like he's worthless and doesn't contribute anything to the team,.

I think you just described Mikey.....except Donnie also thinks he doesn't contribute much either.

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I think you just described Mikey.....except Donnie also thinks he doesn't contribute much either.

...because he doesn't, and they know it. Donnie on the other hand has saved himself, the turtles, April, the entire city and probably even more.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

...because he doesn't, and they know it. Donnie on the other hand has saved himself, the turtles, April, the entire city and probably even more.

Donnie didn't do any of those things by himself, it's a team effort, which includes MIKEY.

Donnie might make the gadgets but it's all useless if they can't execute the plan.

Mikey, Raph, and Leo have also saved the world.

and while I do agree Mikey could do more, he's saved his brother tons of times. Killed the wasps, electrocuted Rahzar, drowned the squirrelanoids, saved Donnie from being shredded, Killed Chrome Dome with his own sword, He befriended Leatherhead who helped save their lives, Took down that sea monster by riding it like a bull, and more So yea~ Mikey's done stuff in his own way.

and he doesn't have an annoying crush so that's a plus. >_>

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Donnie didn't do any of those things by himself, it's a team effort, which includes MIKEY.

Donnie might make the gadgets but it's all useless if they can't execute the plan.

Mikey, Raph, and Leo have also saved the world.

and while I do agree Mikey could do more, he's saved his brother tons of times. Killed the wasps, electrocuted Rahzar, drowned the squirrelanoids, saved Donnie from being shredded, Killed Chrome Dome with his own sword, He befriended Leatherhead who helped save their lives, Took down that sea monster by riding it like a bull, and more So yea~ Mikey's done stuff in his own way.

and he doesn't have an annoying crush so that's a plus. >_>

All they need is Don and Leo to have a successful mission, honestly. Leo to do the planning and Don to do all the tech stuff. Mike and Raph are usually just there to fight...but anyway basically what I'm saying is:

Without Don: The Kraang would have captured April and taken over, the turtles wouldn't have been able to carry out about 50% of their missions, the turtles would've died, etc, etc, etc.

Without Mike: ....there would be less jokes?

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

All they need is Don and Leo to have a successful mission, honestly. Leo to do the planning and Don to do all the tech stuff. Mike and Raph are usually just there to fight...but anyway basically what I'm saying is:

Without Don: The Kraang would have captured April and taken over, the turtles wouldn't have been able to carry out about 50% of their missions, the turtles would've died, etc, etc, etc.

Without Mike: ....there would be less jokes?

ya know what....maybe you're right, but the team would be VERY VERY boring with just Donnie and Leo.

Mikey is entertaining, he's the heart of the team. He might not by a leader or the tech guy, but I still think his place is just as important. Mikey's compassion and friendliness help in their own ways.

[Papenbrook]

Babyturtles, are you sensitive? It seems you dislike the character of Mikey in the new show.

Anyway, the crush Donnie has will have to end soon. Otherwise, Donnie will have little character development.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Babyturtles, are you sensitive? It seems you dislike the character of Mikey in the new show.

Anyway, the crush Donnie has will have to end soon. Otherwise, Donnie will have little character development.

are you kidding?! I LOOOOVE this Mikey XD it's my favorite version!

......why would I defend him if I didn't like him...??

[pdizzle]

Originally Posted by Creativecreature31

Seriously. .. I Love Donnie as a character but does anyone else feel as if he's a much better character whenever April ISN'T around?

Likewise I actually find April a lot cooler whenever she's not with Donnie. ..

Should they both just be independent characters who don't need each other to develop?

Opinions anyone?

I never really liked the whole donnie and april stpryline to begin with....seems like it takes away donnies potintial in the show.....thats just my opinion tho....

[Gabriel GP]

A short description about the nick turtles:

Don: The intelligent and sarcastic(yeah much more than Raph, sorry) he is a very cool version of Donny, I would just tone down a little his crush on April and would be perfect.

Leo: To be honest, this is my favorite version of him(between the cartoons at least) he is funny, not just the boring leader anymore. But he has gotten to many main plots, everything that is foot related, he is the main protagonist, with Karai, Shredder, Tigerclaw, etc. I already said before that I didn't like of Leo getting all the focus in FKids version, and it seems that in the nick isn't going to be much different.

Raph: My favorite turtle, but they aren't giving too much depth to him. He is basically the angry turtle that was the best fighter, cuz not even this he is anymore for what I have seen.

Mike: Comic relief. As deep as a pool in a desert.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Gabriel GP

A short description about the nick turtles:

Don: The intelligent and sarcastic(yeah much more than Raph, sorry) he is a very cool version of Donny, I would just tone down a little his crush on April and would be perfect.

Leo: To be honest, this is my favorite version of him(between the cartoons at least) he is funny, not just the boring leader anymore. But he has gotten to many main plots, everything that is foot related, he is the main protagonist, with Karai, Shredder, Tigerclaw, etc. I already said before that I didn't like of Leo getting all the focus in FKids version, and it seems that in the nick isn't going to be much different.

Raph: My favorite turtle, but they aren't giving too much depth to him. He is basically the angry turtle that was the best fighter, cuz not even this he is anymore for what I have seen.

Mike: Comic relief. As deep as a pool in a desert.

You nailed it here. There is a big problem with the team angle, and I really hope the writers clear it up. I like all of the Turtles, but I am sorry, the Leo/Donnie team ups are so freaking boring. The first season started out strong, each one had their role to play, but the last few episodes, Raph, who is my favorite, has so little to do, when he's often at least the second best fighter on the team. Sure, he's the angry one, but he's also the strongest, wittiest and has the most street smarts out of the four.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

You nailed it here. There is a big problem with the team angle, and I really hope the writers clear it up. I like all of the Turtles, but I am sorry, the Leo/Donnie team ups are so freaking boring. The first season started out strong, each one had their role to play, but the last few episodes, Raph, who is my favorite, has so little to do, when he's often at least the second best fighter on the team. Sure, he's the angry one, but he's also the strongest, wittiest and has the most street smarts out of the four.

if they just stop giving all the story/development to Leo and Donnie and give some to Raph and Mikey and balance everyone out...everything would be perfect...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Babyturtles, are you sensitive? It seems you dislike the character of Mikey in the new show.

Even if he does, so what? It's his preference.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Even if he does, so what? It's his preference.

How does he dare to have an opinion? He should be put in the electric chair!
he's worse than Hitler!

[BabyTurtles]

I'm a girl........XD

[DarthEmpress]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I Agree...April does seem to be leading Don on. Wether she means to or not...she is doing it.

I really don't understand it when fans say April is leading Don on. This is exactly the rebuttal Nice Guys give when a girl tells them they aren't interested in a relationship. "But you gave me all the signals!" Did I ever say I wanted to be your girlfriend? No? Then guess what - I never led you on! :/

Showing a friend love and support doesn't automatically mean you want to sleep with them. April has neither confirmed nor denied that she's interested in a relationship with Don. I'm still calling it that she goes for the Big D in the end, even if she's with Casey for a while first. I'd rather see Capril or April stay single (can you imagine the scandal? a leading lady...staying single!) because I like April's character a lot more when Don isn't around her.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

if they just stop giving all the story/development to Leo and Donnie and give some to Raph and Mikey and balance everyone out...everything would be perfect...

Yep. Funny, I think the best episodes this season have been the two main Raphael ones, Slash and Destroy and The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones. While I get ticked off at times, I try to keep a positive attitude, in that they are saving the best for later episodes. Heh, what would be an interesting episode would be maybe if the tables were turned when Irma meets the Turtles, and she has a crush on Raph, and he's like, ewe! And who knows, Bebop and Rocksteady are coming, this is when it would be a perfect time to showcase Raphael in all his glory, and if the rumored Triceratons show up, Mikey has had some good stories with them in the past. Just keep putting on the pressure on the writers, point out to them that us Mikey and Raphael fans will not be ignored! And that making super Leo was the downfall of the 2k3 toon, don't make the same mistake.

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I'm a girl........XD

So am I! Girls rule and Boys drool!

Originally Posted by DarthEmpress

I really don't understand it when fans say April is leading Don on. This is exactly the rebuttal Nice Guys give when a girl tells them they aren't interested in a relationship. "But you gave me all the signals!" Did I ever say I wanted to be your girlfriend? No? Then guess what - I never led you on! :/

Showing a friend love and support doesn't automatically mean you want to sleep with them. April has neither confirmed nor denied that she's interested in a relationship with Don. I'm still calling it that she goes for the Big D in the end, even if she's with Casey for a while first. I'd rather see Capril or April stay single (can you imagine the scandal? a leading lady...staying single!) because I like April's character a lot more when Don isn't around her.

Uh, there is this unwritten rule, in that if you know someone likes you, and you don't want to lead them on, hands off unless it's a life and death situation. And, what kind of effing support has you kissing someone on the cheek or putting their head in your lap?

[909 Turtle Fan]

Should Don move on from April???
I would.

[victory_angel]

Rob Paulsen has stated that April will be torn between two boy friends. She has neither confirmed or denied that she is interested in either Casey or Donnie beyond friendship.

Donnie hasn't pressured or forced April into being his girlfriend and until she says otherwise he's happy just being her friend and being there for her.

Casey on the other hand since the moment he has met April has pretty much acted as though April is his, because obviously if a boy and girl are together they must be a couple mentality. Casey has also stated that most people don't want to be near him because they are afraid of him.

April herself has seen areas in both boys that are good and bad. Something she likes in one she doesn't like in the other, she can do things with one that she is able to do differently with the other. And both of them are people that matter to her so if she lost one she would feel as though she lost part of herself.

Another probability is that while both Donnie and Casey will come to head in their relationship. There is another it is possible Donnie could take another route with this relationship.

If the triangle is indeed going to mirror the H/T/O triangle then fans will have to remember that it was Teng Shen herself that had said she wanted Hamato as her suitor. But Oroku couldn't accept it and accuses Hamato Yoshi of taking Teng Shen from him.

However if Hamato had allowed Saki to have Teng Shen, then Saki would have come to realize that Teng Shen is completely miserable with him because she doesn't love him.

So perhaps when the D/A/C Triangle comes to it's peak. Donnie could just simply choose to back away and allow Casey to have April, because he rather have Casey as friend then an enemy. And April would be either better for it or she could realize that she is completely miserable because of it.

[Warhorse]

Victory Angel. Your analogy is very insightful, but sad. Now that I think about it, I'm wondering if the writers are watching episodes of The Wonder Years, and that whole Kevin Arnold and Winnie Cooper angle is their basis.