Who is the weakest member team?

*victory_angel* · 03-24-2014, 10:03 PM

I'm sure you are wondering why I bringing up in this question since it's obvious that Raph is the strongest...at least physically.

However in Fastforward, Splinter has a point where he says "It requires no strength at all to destroy. But creation...healing...that that takes true might."

So that brings up the question of the TMNT team in this incarnation, who do you think is the weakest?

Personally I think Raph is the weakest of the team, because he has had his temper called into question twice so far. He answers his frustrations by either yelling or taking it out on someone.

To quote one of my fics.

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"Well yeah," Raph agreed. "I mean, I'm the strongest. If Leo is the member of this family who is meant to lead and Donnie is the brains so he is the one who comes up with all the inventions and solutions to problems. And Mikey is meant to be…well free to be Mikey. I'm the one who is meant to protect this family and defend my brothers from people like the Shredder."

"You may be the strongest physically." Splinter chided. "But it's easy to hurt another person, to show compassion, to have patience, to teach, to heal, to create, to learn, to endure that is something that that takes real strength. And that I where I am sorry to say, you are weakest."

I'm not saying Raph doesn't have these qualities, but they don't come as easily to him as say one of his brothers.

*BabyTurtles* · 03-24-2014, 10:06 PM

weakest? as in doesn't bring much to the team.....probably Mikey....XD....but he's the wild card so that's what happens when you're unpredictable.

weakest as in weakest fighter.....Donnie, but he's got his brains!

*snake* · 03-24-2014, 10:06 PM

Probably Mikey as he is the youngest. Not to say he isn't strong, but he is more clever then strong.

*Rooish* · 03-24-2014, 10:44 PM

Agreed that Raph usually is the least compassionate and most damaging to the team, but unfortunately might is right in this show--his anger is rarely actually shown to hamper anything, his bullying goes unpunished, and he is shown as a really good fighter. I think Mikey is the least useful Turtle in this version--he's an idiot.

Gabriel GP · 03-24-2014, 11:41 PM

Mikey, cuz in case someone still don't know, he's a retard in the nick's show.

*Warhorse* · 03-24-2014, 11:49 PM

According to your analogy Angel, I still think Raph is the strongest, because not only does he have a great deal of pride, when his pride gets deflated and whatnot, he at least acknowledges it and even apologizes for it, and someone who says they are sorry is truly a strong character indeed. Then, lets not forget all of the times he was there for his brothers when they were down, giving them nudges of encouragement. He may not be leadership material, but he's still a very strong brother and someone they can count on. And oh, to quote one of your fanfictions as some sort of fact, that's just plain stupid. Really, when was the last time we heard Leo give an encouraging word to one of his brothers? It seems Raph is the one calling Donnie awesome for his fighting ability and his inventions. Raph commented on Casey's good fighting abilities, and he's cheered up Mikey when he was down.

As for the weakest link on this team, right now, it is Mikey.

Karai Samurai · 03-25-2014, 12:12 AM

I reaaallly don't want to say Mikey so I'm not going to.

They all are the weakest members of the team.

Leo, for always sticking to the books, thus sacrificing a degree of street smart and trying to see good in people (Karai);
Donnie, for always allowing his emotional need to protect April (and her dad and Timothy) cloud his judgment;
Raph, for thinking that brute force is a substitute for strategy and always finding the need to challenge authority;
Mikey, for his lack of focus and general disregard of the seriousness of most situations.

So yeah...that was a cop out, but whatever. At least they are all growing as a team.

kolaida · 03-25-2014, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Karai Samurai

I reaaallly don't want to say Mikey so I'm not going to.

They all are the weakest members of the team.

Leo, for always sticking to the books, thus sacrificing a degree of street smart and trying to see good in people (Karai);
Donnie, for always allowing his emotional need to protect April (and her dad and Timothy) cloud his judgment;
Raph, for thinking that brute force is a substitute for strategy and always finding the need to challenge authority;
Mikey, for his lack of focus and general disregard of the seriousness of most situations.

So yeah...that was a cop out, but whatever. At least they are all growing as a team.

^Agree. They all have their weak points and strong points and they play off of each other that way.

NameGoesHere1066 · 03-25-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

Probably Mikey as he is the youngest. Not to say he isn't strong, but he is more clever then strong.

why is he the youngest when he is the same ****ing age as the rest of them? This aspect of the turtle verse has always annoyed the crap out of me...

*Powder* · 03-25-2014, 02:51 PM

It's not the first version to age the turtles a bit differently, if only a little...

NameGoesHere1066 · 03-25-2014, 03:11 PM

I'm just saying it is a stupid concept...they all reached sentience at the same time....

*JTH* · 03-25-2014, 03:41 PM

There really isn't one, the whole purpose of their characteristics is each one has a glaring defect that weighs them down, which is why they need the others to be there for them.

Raph: Strong, but realizes too much on strength and only sees things based on brute force.
Mikey: Unlimited potential, but doesn't take anything serious enough to fulfill it.
Donnie: Clever and can use his mind to do almost anything, but his weak heart and sometimes unwillingness to fight and go to the last mile causes him to be looked down upon.
Leo: A great leader, but in a way unintentionally causes him to look down on his brothers when they don't do things like he wants. Unwilling to go outside the comfort zone.

*Warhorse* · 03-25-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

why is he the youngest when he is the same ****ing age as the rest of them? This aspect of the turtle verse has always annoyed the crap out of me...

Well, it's just like a set of multiple twins, there is an older one and the younger one. I guess Splinter would have remembered which Turtle started to mutate the first, and he was considered the oldest.

*Shark_Blade* · 03-25-2014, 06:23 PM

Physically Raph is the toughest but mentally he's the weakest.

And with ninja missions, a cool headed member is essential, so I pick him as the weakest.

*victory_angel* · 03-25-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Well, it's just like a set of multiple twins, there is an older one and the younger one. I guess Splinter would have remembered which Turtle started to mutate the first, and he was considered the oldest.

The mutations sequence in rise of the Turtles it was Leo, Donnie, Mikey Raph so that can't be it. But Leo is the most physically and emotionally mature so he was the eldest, and even though they are essentially quadruplets Mikey is physically the least mature of the group so he's the youngest.

*Warhorse* · 03-25-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Physically Raph is the toughest but mentally he's the weakest.

And with ninja missions, a cool headed member is essential, so I pick him as the weakest.

Prove to us how Raph is the mentally weakest (don't see him getting all love sick for a girl like Donnie and Leo have) Because I am just not seeing it. I see it more with Mikey than anybody else.

*BabyTurtles* · 03-25-2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Prove to us how Raph is the mentally weakest (don't see him getting all love sick for a girl like Donnie and Leo have) Because I am just not seeing it. I see it more with Mikey than anybody else.

(I might be wrong) but...I think they meant emotionally unstable...since Raph always let's his emotions out, especially his anger.

Mikey seems very emotionally sound.

*MikeandRaph87* · 03-25-2014, 07:24 PM

There is no weak link of the four of them. Leo-most disciplined Raph-strongest Mike-the athlete Don-Most intelligent

Putting it at a purely physical standpoint I would argue Donatello. Michelangelo is agile and athetic while Donatello prefers to flex his brain muscles opposed to trainng himself phsyically in any way.Michelangelo does that through his X Games interest and natural abilities that even the more balanced Leonardo and stronger Raphael possess.

*Luckyday* · 03-25-2014, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kolaida

^Agree. They all have their weak points and strong points and they play off of each other that way.

I started to feel that they work so well as the team, because they're co dependent on each other like the three main characters from Attack on Titan.
They all have sums parts of Body, Mind, and Spirit.

*Shark_Blade* · 03-26-2014, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Prove to us how Raph is the mentally weakest (don't see him getting all love sick for a girl like Donnie and Leo have) Because I am just not seeing it. I see it more with Mikey than anybody else.

He constantly disobeys Leo and went on doing things alone without thinking, just barge right through the enemies. Pretty suicidal, their plans ruined.

03-24-2014, 10:06 PM	#2
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	weakest? as in doesn't bring much to the team.....probably Mikey....XD....but he's the wild card so that's what happens when you're unpredictable. weakest as in weakest fighter.....Donnie, but he's got his brains! __________________

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Gabriel GP Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brazil Posts: 176	Mikey, cuz in case someone still don't know, he's a retard in the nick's show. __________________

03-24-2014, 11:49 PM	#6
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	According to your analogy Angel, I still think Raph is the strongest, because not only does he have a great deal of pride, when his pride gets deflated and whatnot, he at least acknowledges it and even apologizes for it, and someone who says they are sorry is truly a strong character indeed. Then, lets not forget all of the times he was there for his brothers when they were down, giving them nudges of encouragement. He may not be leadership material, but he's still a very strong brother and someone they can count on. And oh, to quote one of your fanfictions as some sort of fact, that's just plain stupid. Really, when was the last time we heard Leo give an encouraging word to one of his brothers? It seems Raph is the one calling Donnie awesome for his fighting ability and his inventions. Raph commented on Casey's good fighting abilities, and he's cheered up Mikey when he was down. As for the weakest link on this team, right now, it is Mikey. Last edited by Warhorse; 03-24-2014 at 11:54 PM.

03-25-2014, 12:12 AM	#7
Karai Samurai Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2013 Location: the school with the turtle mascot Posts: 176	I reaaallly don't want to say Mikey so I'm not going to. They all are the weakest members of the team. Leo, for always sticking to the books, thus sacrificing a degree of street smart and trying to see good in people (Karai); Donnie, for always allowing his emotional need to protect April (and her dad and Timothy) cloud his judgment; Raph, for thinking that brute force is a substitute for strategy and always finding the need to challenge authority; Mikey, for his lack of focus and general disregard of the seriousness of most situations. So yeah...that was a cop out, but whatever. At least they are all growing as a team. __________________

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NameGoesHere1066 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: at home LOL Posts: 957	I'm just saying it is a stupid concept...they all reached sentience at the same time.... __________________ ]

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snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Probably Mikey as he is the youngest. Not to say he isn't strong, but he is more clever then strong.

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Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,130	Agreed that Raph usually is the least compassionate and most damaging to the team, but unfortunately might is right in this show--his anger is rarely actually shown to hamper anything, his bullying goes unpunished, and he is shown as a really good fighter. I think Mikey is the least useful Turtle in this version--he's an idiot.

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Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	It's not the first version to age the turtles a bit differently, if only a little...

03-25-2014, 03:41 PM	#12
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	There really isn't one, the whole purpose of their characteristics is each one has a glaring defect that weighs them down, which is why they need the others to be there for them. Raph: Strong, but realizes too much on strength and only sees things based on brute force. Mikey: Unlimited potential, but doesn't take anything serious enough to fulfill it. Donnie: Clever and can use his mind to do almost anything, but his weak heart and sometimes unwillingness to fight and go to the last mile causes him to be looked down upon. Leo: A great leader, but in a way unintentionally causes him to look down on his brothers when they don't do things like he wants. Unwilling to go outside the comfort zone.

03-25-2014, 06:23 PM	#14
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Physically Raph is the toughest but mentally he's the weakest. And with ninja missions, a cool headed member is essential, so I pick him as the weakest.

03-25-2014, 07:24 PM	#18
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	There is no weak link of the four of them. Leo-most disciplined Raph-strongest Mike-the athlete Don-Most intelligent Putting it at a purely physical standpoint I would argue Donatello. Michelangelo is agile and athetic while Donatello prefers to flex his brain muscles opposed to trainng himself phsyically in any way.Michelangelo does that through his X Games interest and natural abilities that even the more balanced Leonardo and stronger Raphael possess. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!