TMNT CG Pilot - Page 2

*Powder* · 03-30-2014, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

If this was in place of the nick show I'd watch every week! The animation itself could use work but the fight scenes looked fantastic! Was this proposed? I'd def watch it, and seems like something that would be big in Asia but also have the cross over value to the states.

This series became the 4kids 'toon. You can see the Battle Shell in it and there are other traces of 4kids designs in there too.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-30-2014, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

This series became the 4kids 'toon. You can see the Battle Shell in it and there are other traces of 4kids designs in there too.

O yeah...
It's because it was probably expensive as hell to do All Cgi show back in 2001, The texturing looks unfinished but the movements are vastly superior to Nick show, it fells very live actiony...

*Candy Kappa* · 03-30-2014, 06:24 PM

The animation is not superior to the Nick show, it looks really stilted at times.

The animation style is less cartoony, that is true, but it is also less expressive and severely lacking in dynamics. The fight choreography is pretty decent, but the character animation is stilted and seems rather hastily done, which isn't all that odd since it's just a short pilot.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-30-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The animation is not superior to the Nick show, it looks really stilted at times.

The animation style is less cartoony, that is true, but it is also less expressive and severely lacking in dynamics. The fight choreography is pretty decent, but the character animation is stilted and seems rather hastily done, which isn't all that odd since it's just a short pilot.

When they movie it's much more fluid and feels a lot more realistic. Obviously it was never finished, so we will never know what the final product would look like..

*Candy Kappa* · 03-30-2014, 06:41 PM

Not sure if we see the same pilot and Nick show...

As an 3D animator, I see a lot of stuff that require work in that pilot. A LOT. the Nick show is a delight to watch and see how good the animation is and how it evolves further with the episodes. Especially the character animation in combat situations.

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-30-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Not sure if we see the same pilot and Nick show...

As an 3D animator, I see a lot of stuff that require work in that pilot. A LOT. the Nick show is a delight to watch and see how good the animation is and how it evolves further with the episodes. Especially the character animation in combat situations.

But this never got to be finished and it was 13 years ago...
You are 3D animator? How weird so am i...

*Candy Kappa* · 03-30-2014, 06:56 PM

Animation can still be good even if it is 13 years ago, it does more then the bare necessity to show the turtles in movement, but is think it's a stretch to say it's better animated then the Nick show, especially when Don looks hilariously stilted in the scene where he finished the turtle van, and Raph when he gets up after getting knocked down by splinter. Raph in that scene almost just slides into the key poses instead of having a fluid motion.

You're an animator too? Cool. What program do you prefer to use?

~~electric_sheep~~ · 03-30-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Animation can still be good even if it is 13 years ago, it does more then the bare necessity to show the turtles in movement, but is think it's a stretch to say it's better animated then the Nick show, especially when Don looks hilariously stilted in the scene where he finished the turtle van, and Raph when he gets up after getting knocked down by splinter. Raph in that scene almost just slides into the key poses instead of having a fluid motion.

You're an animator too? Cool. What program do you prefer to use?

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*Candy Kappa* · 03-30-2014, 07:02 PM

Aaaw, so sad

But, there are free animation programs for people to try out, I've heard decent things about Blender and I think that is a free 3D animation software.

OA · 03-30-2014, 07:39 PM

Maybe I'm just easily amused, but I thought the fight scenes, particularly with Don and the Elite, were pretty sweet and very realistic looking. Casey and April were nicely done too.

Now that we've seen the new movie preview, we need to see an animated cartoon with these 8 foot turtles!

thebrownranger · 03-30-2014, 08:38 PM

I would have loved to see this show come to fruition. Of course the animation might have needed a little more tweaking, but overall it was pretty decent for a short CGI pilot 13 years. It was made to give a small idea of what the show could be like had it been created for television.

Love the feel of this animatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM76I2_4mK8

Not really a fan of the new Nick show. It's kind of "meh" for me, but it does have its moments where it pulls me in a little more.

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Aaaw, so sad

But, there are free animation programs for people to try out, I've heard decent things about Blender and I think that is a free 3D animation software.

Another 3d animator here. Haven't done anything in animation for some time, but hoping to get back into when I have more time on my hands. Blender is an amazing open source program.

Gin Rummy · 03-30-2014, 08:50 PM

The animation looks pretty good for being over a decade old. But I can imagine that this show would have been ridiculously expensive to produce at the time.

*turtlefanforever* · 03-30-2014, 10:51 PM

but I wish we coulda got both. I could see this only running for 2 years then boom we get the 2k3 show, and a sold 16-32 episodes of this. I would have loved if this was the nick series. honestly watch every week, even if they kept it the same look !

*CyberCubed* · 03-30-2014, 10:54 PM

LOL @ people being disappointed a proposed terrible CG show from 2001 didn't happen. The show would have aged horribly (CG in 2001 for a TV show was ugly), and I doubt it would have lasted more than Next Mutation.

cartoonistaaron · 03-30-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thebrownranger

Love the feel of this animatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM76I2_4mK8

I talked to a guy who worked on putting this together. He worked for WB animation and when I mentioned how cool this looked, he said the show itself would not have been this gritty - WB apparently wanted to take it in a more "Tiny Toons" direction (i.e. heavy on the humor and cuteness). Probably a good thing it never happened.

I wish MTV or Adult Swim or someone would do a traditionally animated show based on the Mirage comics. The 2k3 show was really bland and I feel like something that looks closer to the original comic book designs would be really cool.

NYShell · 03-30-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

LOL @ people being disappointed a proposed terrible CG show from 2001 didn't happen. The show would have aged horribly (CG in 2001 for a TV show was ugly), and I doubt it would have lasted more than Next Mutation.

LOL @ CyberCubed being continually disappointed in the new Turtles flick, even though it's still happening no matter how much you cry.

*CyberCubed* · 03-31-2014, 01:21 AM

New movie has terrible Turtle faces, regardless if its actually good or not.

In regards to this CG pilot, anyone notice the Twin Towers appear towards the end of it? Man, just shows you that this was from another time.

*Eiko* · 03-31-2014, 01:26 AM

Would have love to see this series happen. I remember seeing this pilot 10 years ago I thought wow the Turtles are coming back then never heard of it again.

*shuriken* · 03-31-2014, 01:27 AM

When my 12 year old self heard about this I was stoked. But then the whole thing fellthrough. I would have enjoyed it, and Shredder looked pretty badass, as did the Foot symbol. The mouth movements were jarring, but the action scenes were pretty fluid. The look reminds me of Beast Wars tho.

*CyberCubed* · 03-31-2014, 01:31 AM

You guys do realize most of what we see in that trailer was in the 4kids series, right?

The Turtles fighting Foot Elite, Triceratons, Mousers, giant robots, and their truck looks identical to the Battle Shell. In fact probably all the ideas from this trailer went into the cartoon.

I don't see what you think we were missing since the 4kids cartoon had great 2D animation unlike this dated CG.

03-30-2014, 06:24 PM	#23
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	The animation is not superior to the Nick show, it looks really stilted at times. The animation style is less cartoony, that is true, but it is also less expressive and severely lacking in dynamics. The fight choreography is pretty decent, but the character animation is stilted and seems rather hastily done, which isn't all that odd since it's just a short pilot. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-30-2014, 06:41 PM	#25
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Not sure if we see the same pilot and Nick show... As an 3D animator, I see a lot of stuff that require work in that pilot. A LOT. the Nick show is a delight to watch and see how good the animation is and how it evolves further with the episodes. Especially the character animation in combat situations. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-30-2014, 06:56 PM	#27
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Animation can still be good even if it is 13 years ago, it does more then the bare necessity to show the turtles in movement, but is think it's a stretch to say it's better animated then the Nick show, especially when Don looks hilariously stilted in the scene where he finished the turtle van, and Raph when he gets up after getting knocked down by splinter. Raph in that scene almost just slides into the key poses instead of having a fluid motion. You're an animator too? Cool. What program do you prefer to use? __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-30-2014, 07:02 PM	#29
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Aaaw, so sad But, there are free animation programs for people to try out, I've heard decent things about Blender and I think that is a free 3D animation software. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-30-2014, 07:39 PM	#30
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Maybe I'm just easily amused, but I thought the fight scenes, particularly with Don and the Elite, were pretty sweet and very realistic looking. Casey and April were nicely done too. Now that we've seen the new movie preview, we need to see an animated cartoon with these 8 foot turtles! __________________

03-30-2014, 08:50 PM	#32
Gin Rummy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 648	The animation looks pretty good for being over a decade old. But I can imagine that this show would have been ridiculously expensive to produce at the time. __________________ Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.'

03-30-2014, 10:51 PM	#33
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	I'm glad we got 2003 cause almost nothing beats that show but I wish we coulda got both. I could see this only running for 2 years then boom we get the 2k3 show, and a sold 16-32 episodes of this. I would have loved if this was the nick series. honestly watch every week, even if they kept it the same look !

03-30-2014, 10:54 PM	#34
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	LOL @ people being disappointed a proposed terrible CG show from 2001 didn't happen. The show would have aged horribly (CG in 2001 for a TV show was ugly), and I doubt it would have lasted more than Next Mutation.

03-31-2014, 01:21 AM	#37
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	New movie has terrible Turtle faces, regardless if its actually good or not. In regards to this CG pilot, anyone notice the Twin Towers appear towards the end of it? Man, just shows you that this was from another time.

03-31-2014, 01:26 AM	#38
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	Would have love to see this series happen. I remember seeing this pilot 10 years ago I thought wow the Turtles are coming back then never heard of it again. __________________

03-31-2014, 01:27 AM	#39
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	When my 12 year old self heard about this I was stoked. But then the whole thing fellthrough. I would have enjoyed it, and Shredder looked pretty badass, as did the Foot symbol. The mouth movements were jarring, but the action scenes were pretty fluid. The look reminds me of Beast Wars tho. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

03-31-2014, 01:31 AM	#40
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	You guys do realize most of what we see in that trailer was in the 4kids series, right? The Turtles fighting Foot Elite, Triceratons, Mousers, giant robots, and their truck looks identical to the Battle Shell. In fact probably all the ideas from this trailer went into the cartoon. I don't see what you think we were missing since the 4kids cartoon had great 2D animation unlike this dated CG.