original toon on blu-ray

~~1987~~ · 04-07-2014, 05:25 PM

i searched and coulnt find any info, to my knowledge there is no bluray releases of the ot, correct me if im wrong. but if thats really the case, will the ot ever be released on bluray? either in seasonal sets or as a whole complete series on bluray. please post any info u may have on an ot bluray release thanks.

having ot on bluray would give the best sharpest possible picture. dvd can take up the whole flatscreen but is a little blurry, and itunes on appletv looks sharp but doesnt take up the whole screen, so it would be great to have the series on bluray for perfectvision.

*turtlefanforever* · 04-07-2014, 05:51 PM

and probably never will be.

~~1987~~ · 04-07-2014, 06:30 PM

weak! i was hoping there was at least something in the works from nick. then again i remember how much of a hassle it was for lionsgate to release the dvds.

there must be some licensing issues, if nick were to release the ot on bluray, would they have to go into the end credits of each episode and edit the nick logo into it or something? or would just having the nickelodeon name on the dvd intro be enough?

*JTH* · 04-07-2014, 06:55 PM

There are many cartoons from the 80s and 90s that no longer have their original masters in existence any more simply because back in the day, there was no need to keep them around after they were transferred to video tape. Obviously long before the "tvshowsondvd.com era"

The only masters that remain for many cartoons in the 80s-90s like Turtles, X-Men, Thundercats, etc. are the standard definition 1 inch broadcast tapes.

Therefore the only use to put it on Blu-Ray is simply to reduce disc space.

So in short, probably about a 90-95% percent chance it won't happen, and even if it did, it wouldn't be a real HD release. In truth, there really is no need to do it.

*Shark_Blade* · 04-07-2014, 07:39 PM

Pretty sure there was a thread about ot on blu ray before.. like it's coming or something.

*JTH* · 04-07-2014, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Pretty sure there was a thread about ot on blu ray before.. like it's coming or something.

Yes, a European release.

Which was nothing but the standard def. episodes tossed on 3 Blu-Ray discs.

*Shark_Blade* · 04-08-2014, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jth

Yes, a European release.

Which was nothing but the standard def. episodes tossed on 3 Blu-Ray discs.

Shame. If it's an upscaled or Remastered quality, I would totally buy it.

rickwj324 · 04-08-2014, 07:55 AM

It was a German release I believe. Standard def episodes. The worst part is that I believe it had German-only audio!!

*ProactiveMan* · 04-10-2014, 03:15 AM

They could probably digitally restore/remaster the episodes to a point, but it would cost a fortune and take forever. The only way to get legit HD versions would be to re-shoot the cells, and I'm pretty sure that's not possible.

I think the show looks OK on DVD, especially if your player has a good up-scaler.

*pferreira* · 04-10-2014, 09:45 AM

DVD quality of these episodes sure is better than what I had to put up with on VHS!

GodzFire · 04-10-2014, 04:33 PM

Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases, I'd like to see it given to another company so it would actually be done right and possibly with improved picture quality, not to mention room for a bunch more extras.

TMNT-Leonardo · 05-13-2014, 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=GodzFire;1246730]Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases/QUOTE]

The original masters probably don't even exist anymore, that's why it had to be taken from a VHS source. The Real Ghostbusters DVD is an example of this, as the TimeLife who did them said they weren't able to obtain the master copies, so they used broadcast copies, and what's worse is the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song). Reason being, they were the only copies they could obtain, leaving further speculation believe that they no longer exist.

Using the source copies is the least problem though, many of their releases crammed episodes into one disc making the quality even lower.

rickwj324 · 05-13-2014, 07:43 AM

[QUOTE=TMNT-Leonardo;1263382]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodzFire

the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song).

I have the complete Real Ghostbusters boxed set but haven't watched more than a few episodes. I didn't realize this.
However...if it was taken froma PAL source then that would speed it up not slow it down. PAL video speeds up by about 4% or so. Unnoticeable to most, but some do hear the difference in pitch.

Rick

TMNT-Leonardo · 05-13-2014, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickwj324

I have the complete Real Ghostbusters boxed set but haven't watched more than a few episodes. I didn't realize this.
However...if it was taken froma PAL source then that would speed it up not slow it down. PAL video speeds up by about 4% or so. Unnoticeable to most, but some do hear the difference in pitch.

This explains it better; but the sound speed is very noticeable. This is mainly for volume 4.

http://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentr...ection-hands-o

*sdp* · 05-13-2014, 10:04 PM

No english audio?

I'd like to own the series in only 3 BR discs, the quality can't be worse than the current DVD releases.

*snake* · 05-13-2014, 10:08 PM

[QUOTE=TMNT-Leonardo;1263382]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodzFire

Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases/QUOTE]

The original masters probably don't even exist anymore, that's why it had to be taken from a VHS source. The Real Ghostbusters DVD is an example of this, as the TimeLife who did them said they weren't able to obtain the master copies, so they used broadcast copies, and what's worse is the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song). Reason being, they were the only copies they could obtain, leaving further speculation believe that they no longer exist.

Using the source copies is the least problem though, many of their releases crammed episodes into one disc making the quality even lower.

With how many episodes the OT had, this is probably the case.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! · 05-13-2014, 10:11 PM

I have the entire collection in the Party Wagon van and that's probably as good as it will ever get. The films aren't even on blu-ray are they?

*snake* · 05-13-2014, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

I have the entire collection in the Party Wagon van and that's probably as good as it will ever get. The films aren't even on blu-ray are they?

They are.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Teenag...-Blu-ray/4096/

saul · 05-14-2014, 11:57 AM

If anyone here cares about watching the show in the HIGHEST quality possible, look into the German DVD release here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924

These DVD's are amazing quality, that are as close to hi-def bluray as we'll probably get.

NOTE: the german DVD release has BOTH the English & German episodes as completely different files, but it looks like the Bluray German release only includes the German files. So make sure to get the DVD not BluRay version. The German files are edited to remove the nunchucks, have a different opening theme song and title card ("hero turtles"), and of course are in German.

The PAL speed up issue is easily fixed with a program called Re-Clock. The very first episode however is not sped up.

The German company who made these transfers did an amazing job that puts the US Lion Gate releases to shame. And the PAL version is a higher resolution too (with more pixels).

rickwj324 · 05-14-2014, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saul

If anyone here cares about watching the show in the HIGHEST quality possible, look into the German DVD release here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924

These DVD's are amazing quality, that are as close to hi-def bluray as we'll probably get.

NOTE: the german DVD release has BOTH the English & German episodes as completely different files, but it looks like the Bluray German release only includes the German files. So make sure to get the DVD not BluRay version. The German files are edited to remove the nunchucks, have a different opening theme song and title card ("hero turtles"), and of course are in German.

The PAL speed up issue is easily fixed with a program called Re-Clock. The very first episode however is not sped up.

The German company who made these transfers did an amazing job that puts the US Lion Gate releases to shame. And the PAL version is a higher resolution too (with more pixels).

It also would be unplayable to most of those in the USA. 2 issues prevent us from playing European dvd's: Region locking and PAL encoding. Even if the dvd's are region-free most US tv's and dvd players won't play PAL sources.

04-07-2014, 05:25 PM	#1
~~1987~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 640	original toon on blu-ray i searched and coulnt find any info, to my knowledge there is no bluray releases of the ot, correct me if im wrong. but if thats really the case, will the ot ever be released on bluray? either in seasonal sets or as a whole complete series on bluray. please post any info u may have on an ot bluray release thanks. having ot on bluray would give the best sharpest possible picture. dvd can take up the whole flatscreen but is a little blurry, and itunes on appletv looks sharp but doesnt take up the whole screen, so it would be great to have the series on bluray for perfectvision.

04-07-2014, 05:51 PM	#2
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	nope theres not and probably never will be.

04-07-2014, 06:55 PM	#4
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	There are many cartoons from the 80s and 90s that no longer have their original masters in existence any more simply because back in the day, there was no need to keep them around after they were transferred to video tape. Obviously long before the "tvshowsondvd.com era" The only masters that remain for many cartoons in the 80s-90s like Turtles, X-Men, Thundercats, etc. are the standard definition 1 inch broadcast tapes. Therefore the only use to put it on Blu-Ray is simply to reduce disc space. So in short, probably about a 90-95% percent chance it won't happen, and even if it did, it wouldn't be a real HD release. In truth, there really is no need to do it. Last edited by JTH; 04-07-2014 at 07:02 PM.

04-10-2014, 03:15 AM	#9
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	They could probably digitally restore/remaster the episodes to a point, but it would cost a fortune and take forever. The only way to get legit HD versions would be to re-shoot the cells, and I'm pretty sure that's not possible. I think the show looks OK on DVD, especially if your player has a good up-scaler. __________________ ProactiveMan!

05-13-2014, 12:46 AM	#12
TMNT-Leonardo Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 265	[QUOTE=GodzFire;1246730]Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases/QUOTE] The original masters probably don't even exist anymore, that's why it had to be taken from a VHS source. The Real Ghostbusters DVD is an example of this, as the TimeLife who did them said they weren't able to obtain the master copies, so they used broadcast copies, and what's worse is the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song). Reason being, they were the only copies they could obtain, leaving further speculation believe that they no longer exist. Using the source copies is the least problem though, many of their releases crammed episodes into one disc making the quality even lower. __________________ Turtle Power!

04-07-2014, 06:30 PM	#3
~~1987~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 640	weak! i was hoping there was at least something in the works from nick. then again i remember how much of a hassle it was for lionsgate to release the dvds. there must be some licensing issues, if nick were to release the ot on bluray, would they have to go into the end credits of each episode and edit the nick logo into it or something? or would just having the nickelodeon name on the dvd intro be enough?

04-07-2014, 07:39 PM	#5
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Pretty sure there was a thread about ot on blu ray before.. like it's coming or something.

04-08-2014, 07:55 AM	#8
rickwj324 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,019	It was a German release I believe. Standard def episodes. The worst part is that I believe it had German-only audio!!

04-10-2014, 09:45 AM	#10
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	DVD quality of these episodes sure is better than what I had to put up with on VHS!

04-10-2014, 04:33 PM	#11
GodzFire Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Sewers Posts: 292	Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases, I'd like to see it given to another company so it would actually be done right and possibly with improved picture quality, not to mention room for a bunch more extras.

05-13-2014, 10:04 PM	#15
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,217	No english audio? I'd like to own the series in only 3 BR discs, the quality can't be worse than the current DVD releases. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

05-13-2014, 10:11 PM	#17
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 996	I have the entire collection in the Party Wagon van and that's probably as good as it will ever get. The films aren't even on blu-ray are they? __________________ Go Ninja! Go Ninja! GO!

05-14-2014, 11:57 AM	#19
saul Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 161	If anyone here cares about watching the show in the HIGHEST quality possible, look into the German DVD release here: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924 These DVD's are amazing quality, that are as close to hi-def bluray as we'll probably get. NOTE: the german DVD release has BOTH the English & German episodes as completely different files, but it looks like the Bluray German release only includes the German files. So make sure to get the DVD not BluRay version. The German files are edited to remove the nunchucks, have a different opening theme song and title card ("hero turtles"), and of course are in German. The PAL speed up issue is easily fixed with a program called Re-Clock. The very first episode however is not sped up. The German company who made these transfers did an amazing job that puts the US Lion Gate releases to shame. And the PAL version is a higher resolution too (with more pixels).