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Old 04-16-2014, 07:54 PM   #321
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your right marvel movies are all good and make big money I will say wolverine movies don't get to big in my eyes
What do you mean Wolverine movies don't get too big in your eyes?

Also, Wolverine movies aren't Marvel.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:56 PM   #322
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your right marvel movies are all good and make big money I will say wolverine movies don't get to big in my eyes
yea man care to clarify...also wolverine movies are Fox..Spiderman is Sony
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:24 PM   #323
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yea man care to clarify...also wolverine movies are Fox..Spiderman is Sony
But they're both Marvel properties, and while Marvel Studios doesn't have involvement, MARVEL does. I've been saying for a while that with Oscorp Tower supposed to have appeared in The Avengers and Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch negotiated to be able to be used by both Fox and Marvel, we could see more and more Marvel interaction and eventually cross-studio cooperation.

I was told that was nonsense and there would be no such thing and the Avengers/X-Men appearance was always in the contract.

Well, y'know what I say to thee? I say.....dang, I wasn't expecting the Marvel cross-studio cooperation to be Sony and Fox!!! O_O

It's just a clip, but hell, it's a post-credit promotion of another company's film!

http://collider.com/amazing-spider-m...f-future-past/

Granted, it's because of contractual commitments of Marc Webb and an agreed arrangement between the two studios, but it's still two separate studios cooperating over Marvel franchises.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:28 PM   #324
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remember you have to look at it with the eyes of the general public not a fan


GOTG is a chapter in the Marvel Cinematic universe while TMNT is a "new" property on the big screen


and as you said Last Airbender
I could have read this wrong but if I read this right, I think you have this backwards. Yes gotg is a Marvel film but I don't remember ever seeing a gotg film ever. In fact I never even heard of it until I saw the trailer. Its a new movie franchise I believe. TMNT on the other hand has been on the big screen maybe 4 times going on 5 with this new film. Has had several cartoons and a few comics. It is by no means new to the big screen. Its a 30 year old franchise. I don't know which film will come out on top. Personally it doesn't matter to me. I'm going to see both.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:32 PM   #325
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I could have read this wrong but if I read this right, I think you have this backwards. Yes gotg is a Marvel film but I don't remember ever seeing a gotg film ever. In fact I never even heard of it until I saw the trailer. Its a new movie franchise I believe. TMNT on the other hand has been on the big screen maybe 4 times going on 5 with this new film. Has had several cartoons and a few comics. It is by no means new to the big screen. Its a 30 year old franchise. I don't know which film will come out on top. Personally it doesn't matter to me. I'm going to see both.
thats why i put new in quotation marks because turtles has been on the big screen 4 times, but this is a "new" story being told

to the general audience and studios this is a new movie franchise

2007 turtles was a continuation of whatever timeline you feel it fits, movies or 2k3 show

and i am only talking movies not comics,tv shows or toys

GOTG and really almost all marvel based films are new to the big screen

thats why i called it a chapter..Like iron man,thor,cap, and hulk movies before them..they are one story to the big picture or in the case of these movies Avengers
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:38 PM   #326
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your right marvel movies are all good and make big money I will say wolverine movies don't get to big in my eyes
The Wolverine made about 3.5 times its budget. X-Men is a money maker for Fox, that's why they will never lose the rights to it and Sony is making money hand over fist with all Spidey films.

People are arguing that The Last Airbender did okay because it made double its budget.
2007 TMNT made double its budget, but, like Airbender, that wasn't enough for it to get the sequels they were hoping for.

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Old 04-16-2014, 08:46 PM   #327
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thats why i put new in quotation marks because turtles has been on the big screen 4 times, but this is a "new" story being told

to the general audience and studios this is a new movie franchise

2007 turtles was a continuation of whatever timeline you feel it fits, movies or 2k3 show

and i am only talking movies not comics,tv shows or toys

GOTG and really almost all marvel based films are new to the big screen

thats why i called it a chapter..Like iron man,thor,cap, and hulk movies before them..they are one story to the big picture or in the case of these movies Avengers
Ok gotcha. I understand what you meant now thanks for clarifying. I think it will be interesting to see which way it goes. I really think they both have potential. Im a sucker for spacey alien futuristic films. Plus the added comedy makes it more enjoyable. But this is TMNT and I've never been so excited for a film. There is also a (twister) like film coming on the 8th called into the storm. I saw the trailer and i loved twister back in the day so I might see that right after tmnt. If your a film junkie like I am 2014 and 2015 are going to be MASSIVE years for films
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:58 PM   #328
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Ok gotcha. I understand what you meant now thanks for clarifying. I think it will be interesting to see which way it goes. I really think they both have potential. Im a sucker for spacey alien futuristic films. Plus the added comedy makes it more enjoyable. But this is TMNT and I've never been so excited for a film. There is also a (twister) like film coming on the 8th called into the storm. I saw the trailer and i loved twister back in the day so I might see that right after tmnt. If your a film junkie like I am 2014 and 2015 are going to be MASSIVE years for films
Agreed IM So excited for this year and next year for movies.

As for other movies releasing i wana see lucy over the storm one look pretty cool.

Seriously thought i dont think we should be arguing which one is going to when I think alot of people are going to see both if twitter is any indication
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2014 and 2015 are going to be MASSIVE years for films
I'm pretty excited for 2016 too: Cap 3, Batman vs Superman, Avatar 2, Prometheus 2, X-Men:Apocalypse, Finding Dory
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I'm very excited for TMNT, X-Men, and Godzilla, this year. I can't think of a box office year I've been more psyched about.

But I will be thoroughly surprised if any of them top Cap 2.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:22 PM   #331
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I'm pretty excited for 2016 too: Cap 3, Batman vs Superman, Avatar 2, Prometheus 2, X-Men:Apocalypse, Finding Dory
Aw HELL YEA!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL OF THOSE!!! The one movie this year that Im Crazy excited for other than tmnt is interstellar

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I'm pretty excited for 2016 too: Cap 3, Batman vs Superman, Avatar 2, Prometheus 2, X-Men:Apocalypse, Finding Dory
those are all awesome lol

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I'm very excited for TMNT, X-Men, and Godzilla, this year. I can't think of a box office year I've been more psyched about.

But I will be thoroughly surprised if any of them top Cap 2.
Yeah i agree Cap 2 has made bank
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Aw HELL YEA!!! I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL OF THOSE!!!
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I wonder how this will effect the box office of DOFP:

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“X-Men: Days of Future Past” director Bryan Singer has been accused of sexually abusing a teenage boy in a lawsuit filed Wednesday in Hawaii federal court.

The plaintiff, Michael Egan, claims he was 17 when Singer forcibly sodomized him, among other allegations. Egan’s lawyers, who published his name in a press release, allege that Singer provided him with drugs and alcohol and flew him to Hawaii on more than one occasion in 1999.

Former chairman of Digital Entertainment Network Marc Collins-Rector is also named in the lawsuit and is accused of initiating the sexual abuse of Egan and arranging for Singer to assault Egan at a house in Encino, Calif.

Collins-Rector is a registered sex offender, having plead guilty in 2004 to luring minors across state lines for acts.

Jeff Herman, Egan’s lawyer, is a national sex abuse attorney who also represented the plaintiffs who accused Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash of sexual abuse.

“Hollywood has a problem with the sexual exploitation of children,” Herman said in a statement. “This is the first of many cases I will be filing to give these victims a voice and to expose the issue.”

Egan is seeking an unspecified amount in damages in the civil case.

Singer’s reps could not be reached for comment on this story.
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I wonder how this will effect the box office of DOFP:
those are so serious allegations. But i doubt it will effect the movies box office.
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those are so serious allegations. But i doubt it will effect the movies box office.
depends how the studio will handle it, but you'd be surprised..Look at sesame street and the whole Kevin Clash Issue

or even Dark Knight Rises and the Shootings

anything can sway the general public to hate something someone is attached too who they feel strongly against
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I wonder how this will effect the box office of DOFP:
From what I have read, It happened around 1998. that's an awfully long time to accuse someone of sexual assault.
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From what I have read, It happened around 1998. that's an awfully long time to accuse someone of sexual assault.
http://www.thewrap.com/bryan-singer-...g-underage-boy
My concern about the claims legitimacy comes from the sheer proximity to movie release time. There has been an outpouring of x-men related media...and now this? Part of me feels this is all too convenient on the part of the plaintiff.

I hate to be that guy and trivialize the suffering this person has gone through if the claim is real, but part of me says foul play.
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My concern about the claims legitimacy comes from the sheer proximity to movie release time. There has been an outpouring of x-men related media...and now this? Part of me feels this is all too convenient on the part of the plaintiff.

I hate to be that guy and trivialize the suffering this person has gone through if the claim is real, but part of me says foul play.
Either way I'm still not going to see the movie. I stopped caring about X-men films since X3. They screwed up my favorite character so bad its not even worth the thought anymore. Rogue is my fave and with news that Singer cut the majority of her scenes just adds to that feeling that the movie verse doesnt give a **** about her.

And sex abuse allegations is nothing new for Bryan Singer. There were rumors on the set of Apt Pupil. You can hear about the Richard Gere/gerbil story so much before u got to wonder.
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Either way I'm still not going to see the movie. I stopped caring about X-men films since X3. They screwed up my favorite character so bad its not even worth the thought anymore. Rogue is my fave and with news that Singer cut the majority of her scenes just adds to that feeling that the movie verse doesnt give a **** about her.
Doesn't give a **** about her? X-Men's plot was centered around her. She was second billing to Wolverine. She was a key plot point in X3. I wouldn't say she's been cast aside as irrelevant.

Now, she was definitely screwed up by merging her character with Kitty Pryde or Jubilee's traditional role to Logan. That sucked and I hate the wonky age differences for all the characters.

But I'm seeing Days of Future Past because I'm intrigued on their plan and path forward. The movie is a comic book style reboot. Time travel lets them alter events to their heart's content so the result of this film determines what we will see going forward.

They have Mark Millar as the coordinator like Whedon is for Marvel. They have supposedly had more Marvel reps on set for this film than any other. Wolverine is wearing blue/yellow in his futuristic suit. And this is the first X-Men film in the full post-Marvel Studios Hollywood.

I'm curious to see how much influence Marvel's success has on Fox going forward. You could see the costume influences starting in First Class, there's some more color in Future Past as well. I'm just waiting to see what they do.

The first films were before Hollywood believed the general audience would embrace comic book movies, so they went all serious and "realistic" on designs. They know otherwise now, but I commend them for taking this story driven reboot rather than straight up "scrap and reboot" method.

I'm just hoping they DO make some serious changes to the timeline for Apocalypse. We'll see....
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Rogue's plot was fine in the first movie. The changes they made to her personality made a lot of sense in light of her powers. The problem is they decided her development in X1 was enough, and stopped there, which is kind of like putting together a delicious pie, and then servic it to your guests without baking it. I keep watching X-Men movies hoping Rogue will turn into the badass that made her my favorite mutant, but X2 and X3 took her in the exact opposite direction. Now she's going to be reduced to a cameo in DOFP. Ugh.

I'm excited about DOFP but the horrible handling of Rogue is pissing me off so bad.
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