Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[chrisdude]

It's funny, because, as a kid, I hated the Phoenix arc of the 90's cartoon. I stopped watching the show. But it didn't really bother me in the movie.

My main hang up is Wolverine. I just can't stand the guy. His attitude and demeanor are so obnoxious that it makes me wanna slap him. I laugh at the idea of sitting through two hours of that guy in a solo movie.

Kudos to Hugh Jackman, though, for surfacing the same disdain I felt for the character, at seven years old.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I will always hate X3 and refuse to watch it ever again simply based on the way they handled Cyclops / Jean / Phoenix.

I understand the actor had other commitments, but to write Cyke off completely just so Logan could emerge the hero at the end, got under my skin.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that there is plenty of room for both Guardians and Turtles to shine. Though they both employ the reluctant team turned heroes...I wonder if Guardians anonymity, and the hype factor surrounding the Turtles return to live action will generate enough buzz to see them both succeed. I know there are other films coming out in August, but I know, at least, amongst my social circle hardly anyone is interested in Expendables 3, and think Stallone should just stop, Lucy just looks like Limitless with a female lead.

Speaking of Lucy...does anyone get this whole Halle Berry/Storm vibe from this whole situation...they both do well in ensemble roles, and because they are one of few women in the cast, they think they can take a similar character and blossom into a solo role. I do not wish any ill on Scar Jo's success, but Lucy does not interest me in the least. (And neither did Catwoman). I hope the success of her recent t films hasn't gone to her head, because NOBODY saw Iron Man, the Avengers, or Cap America because hey wanted to see her. And before anybody says I'm sexist, I'd feel the same way if Jeremy Renner suddenly thought he deserved a solo film because of Hawkeye's sudden surge in popularity.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I understand the actor had other commitments, but to write Cyke off completely just so Logan could emerge the hero at the end, got under my skin.

While Marsden did have other commitments, i heard a lot of the story changes actually came from the demands of halle berry..thats why she is second stage to Logan all of X3

The more I think about it, the more I feel that there is plenty of room for both Guardians and Turtles to shine.

while i dont deny they both have time to shine, Part of the Turtles will depend on how people feel...as many stated, but that time people are tired..summer is almost over and some are even returning to school...guardians could even feel that part of back to school decline too

Speaking of Lucy...does anyone get this whole Halle Berry/Storm vibe from this whole situation.

i cant speak for everyone but i know i don't, as stated i have not heard good things about her, demands, belittling people etc...its actually turned me off to a lot of movies because she is in them

even days of future past i am hoping this storm meets her demise

[Warhorse]

Don't mean anything I'm sure, but saw this issue near the check out at the grocery store today, and I noticed that right on the cover under X-Men is Guardians of the Galaxy mentioned. Inside, they had each month covered, and GOTG had like 4 pages to itself, explaining what the story is, who the characters are, who is playing them and how they tie in with The Avengers. So, I guess this is the start of mass marketing for that movie.

Now, TMNT did have a smaller snippet, and it showed Leonardo in the picture.

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

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Don't mean anything I'm sure, but saw this issue near the check out at the grocery store today, and I noticed that right on the cover under X-Men is Guardians of the Galaxy mentioned. Inside, they had each month covered, and GOTG had like 4 pages to itself, explaining what the story is, who the characters are, who is playing them and how they tie in with The Avengers. So, I guess this is the start of mass marketing for that movie.

Now, TMNT did have a smaller snippet, and it showed Leonardo in the picture.

Turtles doesn't even get front page billing...

[MajorViolence]

It's pretty weird to think GOTG and TMNT are only coming out a week apart. Judging by the marketing, you'd think it was more like two months.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

But I like First Class the most, by far. One of my favorite movies. And that's why I'm still excited about Days of Future Past, despite all the old characters coming back. Bryan Singer has already stated that the next movie follows the First Class cast, so I don't expect the original trilogy cast to dominate DOFP.

Honestly, I'm expecting pretty much the entire original trilogy cast to be killed by sentinels in the opening sequence. Storm looks like she probably gets impaled by one judging by the trailer. Colossus is probably gonna bite it, Magneto gonna bite it. Figure Iceman and Kitty are doomed. Sadly Blink will die as quickly as she's introduced (hey, look, true to comics!)

Pretty much Wolverine sent back and Xavier might survive (or not, lots of ways to explain young Xavier talking to his older self).

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I find X2 to be the worst X-Men movie. Sure X3 was flawed, but it didn't screw up characters that bad as X2 did, they where just superfluous cameos placed all over the movies

You mean X3 with the superfluous and horrid cameos? Because it was by far the worst. They called a character with pretty much no resemblance or power similarity Psylocke.

How do you take the top sex appeal opportunity for X-films and make her a half baked cameo that nobody would recognize as the character if not for her name in the credits?!

But, I already dislikes the changes done to the story in Days of Future Past. Cause, we can't hVe a movie that doesn't have Wolverine being the main character... Screw Kitty, this is Logan's movie now.

To be fair, in the movie continuity, would you really want to have Kitty Pryde go back to warn her.........what, 2 year old self? Her fetus self? Her chromosomes in her parents self? Timeline of her age in the original trilogy to the First Class timeline wouldn't work in any way/shape/form, unfortunately.

Plus again, we have to step away as comic book fans and look at it from general audience appeal as well. They didn't reboot from scratch, so you can't quite build it up. If they were going to reboot from scratch, First Class was the opportunity and they didn't take it.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

To be fair, in the movie continuity, would you really want to have Kitty Pryde go back to warn her.........what, 2 year old self? Her fetus self? Her chromosomes in her parents self? Timeline of her age in the original trilogy to the First Class timeline wouldn't work in any way/shape/form, unfortunately.

Plus again, we have to step away as comic book fans and look at it from general audience appeal as well. They didn't reboot from scratch, so you can't quite build it up. If they were going to reboot from scratch, First Class was the opportunity and they didn't take it.

Still doesn't make it a good thing, that Wolverine on e again gets the main role as he was the main character in all of the X-Men movies, saves First Class where he just only stole the whole spot light with his cameo scene. And he have had now 2 solo movies.

Basically Fox can't make a movie without sidelining Wolverine.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Still doesn't make it a good thing, that Wolverine on e again gets the main role as he was the main character in all of the X-Men movies, saves First Class where he just only stole the whole spot light with his cameo scene. And he have had now 2 solo movies.

Basically Fox can't make a movie without sidelining Wolverine.

Oh, I agree. I've always been a huge Wolverine fan and I feel that putting him into the main role really was detrimental to both the series and the character. Wolverine works best as a scene stealer, like First Class' cameo, in a team setting. He has his purpose and his moments, and yes I'd even say in fight scenes he should be a prominent feature, but they've really done a disservice to the X-Men by focusing on him alone.

I can understand him being the focal character for solo movies, he's probably one of the ones that works best solo to some extent.

Personally, after Days of Future Past, I'd rather see Apocalypse bring Cyclops back and have him be the focal point of the movie with the X-Men being built around him.

Hell, after Days of Future Past, I'd like for the storyline to alter so that it's basically Xavier built the X-Men starting with Cyclops and have him be more of an in charge leader.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Basically Fox can't make a movie without sidelining Wolverine.

would not surprise me if fox sees Wolverine as their Batman*









*not sure if that made sense, kinda hurt my own brain

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

would not surprise me if fox sees Wolverine as their Batman*




*not sure if that made sense, kinda hurt my own brain

Pretty spot-on comparison, actually.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Oh, I agree. I've always been a huge Wolverine fan and I feel that putting him into the main role really was detrimental to both the series and the character. Wolverine works best as a scene stealer, like First Class' cameo, in a team setting. He has his purpose and his moments, and yes I'd even say in fight scenes he should be a prominent feature, but they've really done a disservice to the X-Men by focusing on him alone.

I can understand him being the focal character for solo movies, he's probably one of the ones that works best solo to some extent.

Personally, after Days of Future Past, I'd rather see Apocalypse bring Cyclops back and have him be the focal point of the movie with the X-Men being built around him.

Hell, after Days of Future Past, I'd like for the storyline to alter so that it's basically Xavier built the X-Men starting with Cyclops and have him be more of an in charge leader.

Singer says the Apocalypse movie will be in the 80s, with the First Class cast. So Cyclops should be alive and well, should they choose to use the character. The saddest part is, with Wolverine now meeting Xavier in the 70's, he will almost certainly join the cast for the next movie...

[ObiWanFan4life]

That actually sounds interesting if done right.

[Warhorse]

I'm just curious how much the new X-Men movie is really going to make. The biggest grossing X-Men movie to date is X3. The lowest to date, including with inflation, is the last Wolverine movie. Now, most experts do numbers like this. X-Men First Class came out, and it did good at the box office, but then Wolverine came out, and did less than First Class, so usually that tends to mean that people didn't care enough for First Class to go and flock to The Wolverine movie. There is a strong chance that DOFP could actually make less than Wolverine did.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I'm just curious how much the new X-Men movie is really going to make. The biggest grossing X-Men movie to date is X3. The lowest to date, including with inflation, is the last Wolverine movie. Now, most experts do numbers like this. X-Men First Class came out, and it did good at the box office, but then Wolverine came out, and did less than First Class, so usually that tends to mean that people didn't care enough for First Class to go and flock to The Wolverine movie. There is a strong chance that DOFP could actually make less than Wolverine did.

Not necessarily. "The Wolverine" was understood by many people to be a sequel to "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", which was... not great. (And that's a shame, too, as "The Wolverine" was a lot better than "Origins" overall.)

"First Class" was marketed as a prequel/relaunch to the series as a whole. It and "The Wolverine" weren't directly connected to each other (aside from being in the same overall franchise) so you can't really directly connect them as one were the sequel to the other.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Bry

"First Class" was marketed as a prequel/relaunch to the series as a whole. It and "The Wolverine" weren't directly connected to each other (aside from being in the same overall franchise) so you can't really directly connect them as one were the sequel to the other.

But this scene....


WARNING: Salty language

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I'm just curious how much the new X-Men movie is really going to make. The biggest grossing X-Men movie to date is X3. The lowest to date, including with inflation, is the last Wolverine movie. Now, most experts do numbers like this. X-Men First Class came out, and it did good at the box office, but then Wolverine came out, and did less than First Class, so usually that tends to mean that people didn't care enough for First Class to go and flock to The Wolverine movie. There is a strong chance that DOFP could actually make less than Wolverine did.

Are you just talking about the US box office? The Wolverine was the 2nd highest grossing X-Men movie globally which is what matters now. US box office numbers don't mean much these days.

I've been reading some reports from so called "industry experts" today and they all seem to think that the box office for DOFP will not be hurt from the Singer scandal. We'll see. I know I'll be there opening weekend.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Jester

But this scene....


WARNING: Salty language

Well, aside from that.

(Absolutely perfect use of a Wolverine cameo, though.)

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Bry

First Class" was marketed as a prequel/relaunch to the series as a whole. It and "The Wolverine" weren't directly connected to each other (aside from being in the same overall franchise) so you can't really directly connect them as one were the sequel to the other.

Actually, First Class had terrible marketing in my opinion. It was marketed as a reboot, but it was a prequel, but it wasn't tied into the timeline, but it did set itself before the original trilogy, but wasn't part of them, but oh hey there's Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, so it set the stage for the X-Men trilogy as a prequel that was rebooting the trilogy it was leading into.

Make sense? -_-

Fox couldn't decide WHAT the movie was building up to release. :/

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Jester

But this scene....


WARNING: Salty language

He so much reminds me of my dad. He was the exact same way.