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Old 04-24-2014, 04:43 PM   #201
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quotes like this are what make me not want to post here anymore and start fight, why does it matter if we think that way when we have not been given any proff to think they arnt the ones who hold up a majority of the movie? i have yet to see anything but that one trailer show of the turtles fighting
because that whole argument is predicated on the fact that Mbays is working on the movie and happened to do that with transformers that's it Had his man not even been mention it would be a non issue.
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because that whole argument is predicated on the fact that Mbays is working on the movie and happened to do that with transformers that's it Had his man not even been mention it would be a non issue.
because based on the original Blue Door Script April and Casey were the main focus....and again from everything we have been shown or seen it still feels that way i havent seen anything that makes me feel otherwise

notice the 2 major moments we have so far both have Fox in to

also from every interview i have read so far it seems like bay was always behind the wheel just not physically do to transformers

I am sorry sam but i am going to voice my opinion it is unfair that you guys are allowed to and we who feel strongly against it cannot
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:00 PM   #203
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quotes like this are what make me not want to post here anymore and start fight, why does it matter if we think that way when we have not been given any proff to think they arnt the ones who hold up a majority of the movie? i have yet to see anything but that one trailer show of the turtles fighting
im not trying to start a fight, nor even single you out - honestly - i've simply based my comment on the fact that people have made large assumptions based on very little content.

feel free to voice your opinion, as i have done mine. if you say their isnt any indication that Vernon and April are the stars, and will have more screen time than the turtles...then I will say, based on this image, that is too much of an assumption, especially seeing as all the action scenes we've seen so far, however brief, have been of the turtles.

anyways - ill admit my original comment was aggressive, and for that, i apologize.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:14 PM   #204
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Bay and Co are just covering their a$$es because they know they write stereotypical characters had a asain be cast it would not surprise me if it was another "Deep Wang" played by the same actor (and i like the guy in the right roles)
I really don't think the casting of a white shredder has anything to do with race, as many people say. I think the main reason is just that there are a hell of a lot more well known white actors then asian actors, and big names mean more money. If there were a ton of well known asian actors, then the shredder probably would be portrayed by an asian actor. Sure, they could have an asian actor, but this movie is trying to play it as safe as possible, so they want a relatively well known actor for shredder, and picking on the same race as the original character isn't their primary concern. Also, no one complained about Avery as shredder, and he was probably cast for the exact same reasons.
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I really don't think the casting of a white shredder has anything to do with race, as many people say. I think the main reason is just that there are a hell of a lot more well known white actors then asian actors, and big names mean more money. If there were a ton of well known asian actors, then the shredder probably would be portrayed by an asian actor. Sure, they could have an asian actor, but this movie is trying to play it as safe as possible, so they want a relatively well known actor for shredder, and picking on the same race as the original character isn't their primary concern. Also, no one complained about Avery as shredder, and he was probably cast for the exact same reasons.

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Ken Jeong
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yea man there was no one available, and we all know Jet Li has no start power or even Jackie Chan...noone knows who they are

also The Wolverine sure was able to find alot of good Asain Actors
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:37 PM   #206
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Jackie Chan
Jet Li
Chow Yung Fat
John Cho

Ken Jeong
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Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa
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George Takei

yea man there was no one available, and we all know Jet Li has no start power or even Jackie Chan...noone knows who they are

also The Wolverine sure was able to find alot of good Asain Actors


Seriously, though. People here would be saying, "I'd rather they cast a white guy!"
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:38 PM   #207
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Well, there may have been one GOTG trailer, but at least that one trailer actually shows all of the stars of the movie, and even gives some tidbits, and we even get hints of their characters, all in a 90 second trailer. We are going on to the second trailer, and a TV spot, and we haven't been even given a proper introduction to all of the Turtles. That's sad.
However, in all honesty, the TMNT trailer and the GOTG trailer are very different because they had to achieve very different things. For GOTG, they had to introduce the masses to who exactly these characters are, what this movie is about, because NO ONE knows them (yes, I know this is an exaggeration, but you know what I'm saying). And for TMNT, a whole bunch of people know about the franchise. They really didn't NEED to introduce the character, we know who the turtles are. GOTG had the job of introducing their movie, the feel, and the characters, and that's what they did. The TMNT trailer was more to get people aware of the upcoming movie and excite them.
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Seriously, though. People here would be saying, "I'd rather they cast a white guy!"
HAHA this made me laugh louder than i needed to, and yes while i would not want him cast personally he is still one of the bigger asian actors currently
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Jackie Chan
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Ken Jeong
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Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa
Johnny Young Bosh
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BD Wong
George Takei

yea man there was no one available, and we all know Jet Li has no start power or even Jackie Chan...noone knows who they are

also The Wolverine sure was able to find alot of good Asain Actors
No Ken Watanabe? Probably my first choice for playing Shredder.
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i know i forgot a ton of great asian actors, Ken being one of them, i just literally went with the guys off the top of my head

there are many many more i know people could add
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I'm not saying there aren't any, i'm just saying there are a lot less well known asian actors. Why don't you list off all the well known caucasian actors and see how it compares? I'm not defending their choice, i would much rather have an asian actor playing shredder, but the casting doesn't really have anything to do with race (which is part of the problem, they didn't see casting an asian guy as a big priority)
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Either way, Bay and Liebesman's reasoning for not choosing an Asian actor is flawed, as it's not just the villain that would be Japanese, but the hero too. It seems that they're just trying to shake everything up enough to cause controversy whilst aiming to leave their own mark on the franchise. Despite my dislike for the Transformer films, you can't deny they've had a wealth of success.
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I'm not saying there aren't any, i'm just saying there are a lot less well known asian actors. Why don't you list off all the well known caucasian actors and see how it compares? I'm not defending their choice, i would much rather have an asian actor playing shredder, but the casting doesn't really have anything to do with race (which is part of the problem, they didn't see casting an asian guy as a bug priority)
I think that's what it is. This Shredder isn't asian, because they just didn't care to make him asian. I might buy the, "There are more bankable white actors" thing if they hired someone very famous. There's certainly Japanese influences in this movie. There's some kind of history. But Fichtner must just work with the story they're telling.
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I'm not saying there aren't any, i'm just saying there are a lot less well known asian actors. Why don't you list off all the well known caucasian actors and see how it compares? I'm not defending their choice, i would much rather have an asian actor playing shredder, but the casting doesn't really have anything to do with race (which is part of the problem, they didn't see casting an asian guy as a bug priority)
I wouldn't say William Fichtner is a well known name to bring people in to the cinema, so it adds further confusion to their casting choice.
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I was beat to the punch..but exactly Fitchner isnt a household name

and i like the dude but i really didnt know his name till this movie


so the casting pretty much is "come work on my buddys film"


if they wanted big name they couldve done and still cast an asian actor
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We already know that April and Vernon spend a lot of screen time with the turtles and action scenes. Even the early set photos show that. So I don't think a photo of Vernon and April walking away from some beat up foot soldiers tells us anything new. People who think April and Vernon are the stars already thought this before seeing this photo and I don't think this photo is any major spoiler. Certainly doesn't answer any questions either way. Also I know April and Casey were pretty much the stars of the Blue Door script, but those characters were also a HUGE part of the first movie. I'm thinking this film will play out similar to the first with the turtles fighting bad guys and a couple human characters along for the ride. Could be wrong though
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i say that all these fighting happened only cus MBay made this movie and he rued it how do you judge a book for its cover the movie ant out and I know you all got great opinions but think before you post that's like saying MBay Is a bad person cus he would love to make his own tmnt movie I think he is ok. and if you think this movie is bad then save money and make a tmnt movie your self don't start fighting cus I said these its my opinion
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i say that all these fighting happened only cus MBay made this movie and he rued it how do you judge a book for its cover the movie ant out and I know you all got great opinions but think before you post that's like saying MBay Is a bad person cus he would love to make his own tmnt movie I think he is ok. and if you think this movie is bad then save money and make a tmnt movie your self don't start fighting cus I said these its my opinion
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Nice fine, i wonder what happened there, You can see some Foot Soldiers knocked out in the background.
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