The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Dude if this was a sincere post " which it seems to be ", it is the single most refreshing post I have ever read in this forum. : )

Agreed

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I don't want to turn it into an argument. It's My Opinion. I'm talking about seeing Martial Arts fighting from the Ninja Turtles themselves. And I'm just saying that I find it funny that I saw more Martial Arts in that homemade video than in both the trailer and a TV spot of the upcoming movie. Yes, I do think it's strange to see zero Martial Arts Fighting from the title characters themselves so far in any of the promotion when the film is called NINJA Turtles...and if the new trailer changes that, then great!

So, IF this new trailer (coming up soon) doesn't show any good glimpses of the Ninja Turtles themselves actually using Martial Arts...

Then yes, I would think that it is Mighty Strange that in 2 trailers And a TV Spot, there have been zero glimpses of the Ninja Turtles themselves doing any of the 'Raid/Fist of Legend' inspired Fight scenes that the makers mentioned over and over again.

Why am I beating this dead horse?

Because every single Martial Arts film (which yes, with a title called NINJA Turtles, I would think this WOULD BE a Martial Arts film) that I can think of has shown some kind of Martial Arts Fighting during their trailers when they came out. As well as every single Ninja Turtle movie trailer from the past 4 films have shown the Turtles doing some kind of Martial Arts Fighting (the only thing I can think that Didn't do that was the first/original teaser of the CGI film...and at least that showcased most of them moving and acting like Ninjas).

So yes, I find it strange that out of every single Ninja Turtle film trailer in the past and out of so many Martial Arts movie trailers that I can think of, this is one of the few that has showcased zero Martial Arts fighting so far...again, it's just my opinion. And again, if the new trailer changes that, then that is seriously a good thing.

I agree to an extent except for what we have seen was a teaser and a very short tv spot, and even in those two trailer there was plenty of action in small quick clips Donnie and mikey fighting in the lair. Also leo doing amazing acrobatics off a water tower that to me screams ninja turtles. Master splinters fineness with his sword and even if you dont believe Raphs disarming is very "martial arts" it is kind of one way you can disarm someone. That's already Quite a bit of action within a 1:30 sec trailer and a 30 sec trailer. PLus what are the chances that they would really show full martial art fight scenes this early?

I mean it could happen but not likely for a movie this heavily Animated were your watching to see fully realized complex action with mostly CGI character Movie like Godzilla and Planet of the apes who main characters are heavily CGI haven't really shown much in terms of Action shot. because chances are they aren't fully finished. Well we get these Action shots sure but for a movie like this being done the way it is Jumping to "i dont think there will be any"(martial arts) Is Kind of silly. Its like people jumping to conclusions like splinter wasn't in the movie because the first trailer didn't have him in it.(people who didn't know he was cast)

I mean the talent is there they have it they know what Ninja turtles is about and what that includes "action" wise and Why straight up lie straight to are face on several occasions about something like this??? Kevin is has worked closely with Johnathan and worked with all the screen writers.

It be different if they didn't Keep saying these things over and over again but this is not the case.


Sorry for the long winded post.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

We know who the TMNT are, and we are interested in a TMNT trailer, featuring the Turtles, not April, Vernon and Eric Sachs.

At least the Guardians of the Galaxy at least showed all of the Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm just thinking that the studios are aware that people aren't fond of the new designs, so are just delaying showing them as long as they can.

Yes, that may be true, that the studios are trying to avoid showing the designs. Except, ultimately, those designs won't be changed. They are what they are. So I don't see the advantage of waiting as long as you can before you show the turtles (which, we should keep in mind, they HAVE shown us, just not much), when we will eventually be seeing them over and over again in marketing as the film gets closer.

Another reason they may be 'waiting' is just because these trailer was a teaser trailer. It's just meant to tease us. Sure, GOTG was technically a teaser too, but I regard Guardian's teaser as a rare occurrence. From a lot of comic book movies teasers in the past (Batman Begins, Transformers, etc.), they hardly had any shots of 'the heroes', per se. They just teased us. Gave us a glimpse. Even though it's getting closer to the release, and it feels like we should be seeing more than just a teaser, this is the strategy of the studio, and what they've been doing with their other movies (Transformers 4).

At the end of the day, if it comes back to bite them in the butt, oh well. Their loss.

Also, the trailer and TV spot released have only, from my recollection, one shot of Vernon. So a lot more turtles than Vernon in these trailers.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I agree to an extent except for what we have seen was a teaser and a very short tv spot, and even in those two trailer there was plenty of action in small quick clips Donnie and mikey fighting in the lair. Also leo doing amazing acrobatics off a water tower that to me screams ninja turtles. Master splinters fineness with his sword and even if you dont believe Raphs disarming is very "martial arts" it is kind of one way you can disarm someone. That's already Quite a bit of action within a 1:30 sec trailer and a 30 sec trailer. PLus what are the chances that they would really show full martial art fight scenes this early?

I mean it could happen but not likely for a movie this heavily Animated were your watching to see fully realized complex action with mostly CGI character Movie like Godzilla and Planet of the apes who main characters are heavily CGI haven't really shown much in terms of Action shot. because chances are they aren't fully finished. Well we get these Action shots sure but for a movie like this being done the way it is Jumping to "i dont think there will be any"(martial arts) Is Kind of silly. Its like people jumping to conclusions like splinter wasn't in the movie because the first trailer didn't have him in it.(people who didn't know he was cast)

I mean the talent is there they have it they know what Ninja turtles is about and what that includes "action" wise and Why straight up lie straight to are face on several occasions about something like this??? Kevin is has worked closely with Johnathan and worked with all the screen writers.

It be different if they didn't Keep saying these things over and over again but this is not the case.


Sorry for the long winded post.

That Donnie stuff was 1-2 seconds. Barely a glance let alone a glimpse. Leo flipping? Sorry, but I see the same thing for Gymnastics at the Olympics but I wouldn't call them Ninjas or Martial Artists (and I was talking about Martial Arts Fighting). And Leo flipping is not an action scene. A backhand from Raph (to me) is not a Martial Arts move. The Hulk did the exact same thing to Thor in The Avengers, but no one would say the Hulk did a Martial Arts move.

And Splinter wasn't in the discussion, because I was talking about Martial Arts Fighting from the 4 Ninja Turtles themselves. To be honest, I don't care if Splinter fights or not. I have no desire nor care on that matter.

And it's hard to believe that they are still working on Every Single Martial Arts Fighting Scene for the Turtles, let alone they couldn't show 5 seconds of One Martial Arts Fight Scene (which isn't spoiling/ruining the movie, and again I'm sorry but Donny swinging a Bo in a blink of an eye doesn't count for me).

[snake]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Dude if this was a sincere post " which it seems to be ", it is the single most refreshing post I have ever read in this forum. : )

It was. Thank you.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

That Donnie stuff was 1-2 seconds. Barely a glance let alone a glimpse. Leo flipping? Sorry, but I see the same thing for Gymnastics at the Olympics but I wouldn't call them Ninjas or Martial Artists (and I was talking about Martial Arts Fighting). And Leo flipping is not an action scene. A backhand from Raph (to me) is not a Martial Arts move. The Hulk did the exact same thing to Thor in The Avengers, but no one would say the Hulk did a Martial Arts move.

Its a teaster action shots in teaster dont last very long ever. find me a teaser trailer that's 1:30 secs 36 sec of which are blackscreen title cards for credit, that leave less then a minute to show major action beats, they showed the down hill snow part, Donnie mikey righting, foot being beat, leo flip(with two Katana in hand) with a total of 17 full second of major Action scenes not including gun fire or explosions, the rest is there to show story element and "flashy" action EI explosions running Etc etc, and character shot of shredder and Dialog with shredder and april.

Also Hulks punch is totally different i get so tired of the comparison there is absolutely no comparison.

As i have stated before the foot is not realistically Ive shown clip and explained it about the only thing i haven don is gotten my friend over here to film and reenact the scene.

As a martial artist and a person who's watch plenty of choreographed fight scene i can tell you what has been seen is very realistic in terms of what would really happen.

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

And Splinter wasn't in the discussion, because I was talking about Martial Arts Fighting from the 4 Ninja Turtles themselves. To be honest, I don't care if Splinter fights or not. I have no desire nor care on that matter.

Why would it not matter hes the on who teaches them if he's doing martial arts in the movie then they will.

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

And it's hard to believe that they are still working on Every Single Martial Arts Fighting for the Turtles, let alone they couldn't show 5 seconds of One Martial Arts Fight Scene (which isn't spoiling/ruining the movie, and again I'm sorry but Donny swinging a Bo in a blink of an eye doesn't count for me).

WHy wouldn't it Action scene are the hardest to add CGI especially CGI in which its a fully CGI character fight or inter action with a non CGI character. Again ai bring up Planet of the apes Because this is a movie likely to have tone of Physical inter action and action packed scene and we have seen next to nothing, bits and pieces a couple shots of apes on horses, guys in mocapped suits that's about it.
Godzilla is another which has shown barely any of the "star" and yet will most likely see this monster through the majority of the movie.

Originally Posted by snake

It was. Thank you.

its cool I dont like arguing with people I just wish people were as happy and excited as i am and im sorry your not a still hope if you choose to see the movie that you are pleasantly surprised.

End the end we are all fans of TMNT, we all have are own opinions but that's one thing we share.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

Is it here yet?...I'm foaming at the mouth. Need...more...turtles.

I know right lol

Originally Posted by Warhorse

We know who the TMNT are, and we are interested in a TMNT trailer, featuring the Turtles, not April, Vernon and Eric Sachs.

At least the Guardians of the Galaxy at least showed all of the Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm just thinking that the studios are aware that people aren't fond of the new designs, so are just delaying showing them as long as they can.

I dont count there "teaser" as a teaser Trailer its a full minute longer then the tmnt teaser.

Originally Posted by Sewer Sirens Podcast

Yes, that may be true, that the studios are trying to avoid showing the designs. Except, ultimately, those designs won't be changed. They are what they are. So I don't see the advantage of waiting as long as you can before you show the turtles (which, we should keep in mind, they HAVE shown us, just not much), when we will eventually be seeing them over and over again in marketing as the film gets closer.

Another reason they may be 'waiting' is just because these trailer was a teaser trailer. It's just meant to tease us. Sure, GOTG was technically a teaser too, but I regard Guardian's teaser as a rare occurrence. From a lot of comic book movies teasers in the past (Batman Begins, Transformers, etc.), they hardly had any shots of 'the heroes', per se. They just teased us. Gave us a glimpse. Even though it's getting closer to the release, and it feels like we should be seeing more than just a teaser, this is the strategy of the studio, and what they've been doing with their other movies (Transformers 4).

At the end of the day, if it comes back to bite them in the butt, oh well. Their loss.

Also, the trailer and TV spot released have only, from my recollection, one shot of Vernon. So a lot more turtles than Vernon in these trailers.

This is True i posted before All of Paramounts Movies have had much shorter Marketing schedules and there teasers and trailer shorter then "usual"

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I never said we would get a reboot soon. I said if this movie were to fail, we would get a reboot sooner than we would if this movie spawned sequels. And Nick isn't going to ignore an incredibly successful cartoon and ignore a property because their attempt at a film didn't work. Again, the previous movie gap was during a time where pretty much everything TMNT-related was tanking hard, with the exception of one cartoon project that dipped in quality before it could revive the franchise. If this movie flops (something I've never even claimed is going to happen, BTW) it just means Nick focuses all their attention on the cartoon for a while before thinking about making another movie.



This question doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I like plenty of versions of the Ninja Turtles, but that doesn't mean that I approve of 100% of the decisions that went into them. The pros outweigh the cons quite heavily in most cases. This version, however, is getting practically nothing right, and so I can't support it. It's not that they dare change the turtles that bothers me, it's that they've chosen terrible changes.

That's not how business works if something fails you're not going to keep investing money in it. TMNT is not immortal to this, P&L sold the rights to nick for a reason we were lucky that nick did b/c it kept the turtles relevant. Nick made an investment on a successful franchise that was "tanking" and told their version of the turtles and it became a hit. The movie was already in the works before nick bought the rights but you have to evolve in order to stay fresh you can't keep telling the same story over and over, it becomes stale and uninteresting that's why each version of the turtles is different.

I'm going off facts if this movie fails you wont get another reboot soon. 93 to 07 = 14 years. "failed projects" leads to the francise "tanking" the evidence is there and you've said it yourself. Why hope for failure? once nick is done sucking the money out of it what's going to happen? Disney buys it? we better hope so! if not TMNT will be in limbo (97- 03).

Ok, the question pertains to the double standard logic you use and I'm trying to understand your perspective/ judgment on something that hasn't even been seen yet.

Every version of the turtles has it's pros and cons but you've had the chance to view it and make your judgment. This movie is doing nothing that hasn't been done before yet it's acceptable for other versions (that you've seen) and not for this.

Change of origin: done

race bending: done

change of design: done

change/ different use of character: done

I've given plenty of examples heres another
leatherhead OT: swamp bully/ enemy, 2k3 smart/ ally, nick: outcast/ beast..

I prefer the 2k3 version but does that mean I want nick to fail just so I can get the version I want? No I enjoy what the nick series has to offer and their universe is different than other incarnation of the turtles similar but different. 2k3 leatherhead is different from OT but is closer to the mirage comic (source). the characters had changed origin/ accent/ design/he was a bad guy in one version and an ally in others. I knew the OT leatherhead first if I listed 2k3 version as a con and said it got everything wrong without giving it a chance I would've missed out on my favorite version of him.

The changes you say you don't like have been done in different versions of the turtles. It baffles me because you haven't seen the movie yet to give it a chance.

See it first than make a judgment, support it first if it stinks then you can have valid opinions, don't support the sequel because you have something to solid to go off.

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

It's not a rumor. That is a big part of the movie industry now - not just with TMNT. International box office is more important these days.

It's the truth. entertainment is the US #1 export.

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Depends on what's being done to the thing I love. I love horses, but protest like crazy against horse racing because I think it's cruel to them. I love my TMNT, but I am going to root against something that I find is bastardizing them.

But according to most people standards of TMNT every version is "basterdized" if you compare them to each other. let me see if I can make sense of your logic.

OT: Your horse that passed (R.i.p.)

90 movie: black horse

Next mutation: racing horse

2k3: untamed horse

07movie: your uncle jimmy's horse that kicked you in the face.

You love horses all different versions one you really love, some not so much some are familiar but you love from a distance.

2014 movie: Your friend knows someone who's giving away a horse she say's it's built like a racing horse, reminds her of your horse, but heard it can have a temper like your uncle jimmy's horse. would you still take it?

It could bring back memories of the one you loved or it could kick you in the face.. would you give it a chance you could have a bond that was similar to your old horse. it would be different but you could still love it.

lol I don't know if this makes sense but I'm trying to show you my perspective.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

I guess it's after subway fight, maybe Raph lost his sais like in the 1990 movie...
And look at the size of those sais it's as long as her thighs...

That looks to be on par with the standard length of a Sai, so in other words. They might be too short for Raph

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

This movie is doing nothing that hasn't been done before yet it's acceptable for other versions (that you've seen) and not for this.

The changes you say you don't like have been done in different versions of the turtles. It baffles me because you haven't seen the movie yet to give it a chance.

I'm sorry but I disagree with you. And in case someone goes 'you just don't want something different'...that's entirely false because I like the original cartoon, and I like the 2003 cartoon, and those 2 are very different.

When I saw the cartoons, read the comic books, and saw the previous movies they all had something in common. The Turtles had the same Basic looks & designs (things changed were Minor: color of headbands, a little more muscle in the 2003 cartoon, or giving Mikey freckles in the 2k12 cartoon). To me, they all looked like The Ninja Turtles.

Even when I saw Turtles Forever and I'm seeing the Mirage Comic versions, the 80's versions, AND the 2003 versions...did they have differences? Yeah. But they all still LOOKED like the Ninja Turtles. To me, these do not. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't be making comparisons to The Hulk or to Shrek or to any other things. To me, that's not the Ninja Turtles, they've never looked like that before and been quote 'acceptable'. Slight changes is one thing...but these things go past that point and are way too much.

And these things having nostrils and human-like lips and everything else they've got going in this film (which many, including me, think look off-putting, silly, ridiculous, and just plain stupid) have been done before and were acceptable? I disagree with that statement.

Once in a blue moon you would get this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__pupM3BXw-...ver%2Bjoin.jpg which I absolutely hated. But that's rare, Definitely not the norm.

And If the makers of the film truly thought that changing the basic looks & designs of the Turtles into these silly-looking things were not going to get them any flak, then the makers of the film need a Reality Check. That's the harsh truth. If the basic looks of the Turtles were used for the comics, and the cartoons, and all of the previous films...but then they decide to say 'oh well, let's change it all' here and I, as a fan, should be A-OK with it? That's something I do not understand.

And when I read the comic books, or saw the movies, or saw the cartoons...they were Ninjas who used their Martial Arts skills, not seemingly Super Heroes with Super Strength who seem as vulnerable as Superman. I certainly don't remember them doing that before and it being acceptable, either.

Like you said, at the end of the day it's about what makes money. People really think the director, the designers, or the producer really care what fans think? They don't. Plain and simple.

How many times did Transformers fans ask "please put the Transformers in the front row this time, Mr. Bay!" Four films, and still 'Nope'. Ask a fan of Catwoman on what they think of that film let alone the changes they did. Or what fans of the Hulk think about the Ang Lee version. Or better yet, ask Deadpool fans on what they think of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

So when a Ninja Turtle movie has Turtles that to me don't even look like the Ninja Turtles (let alone the ones that I saw in the 4 movies, the cartoons, and the comic books that I read growing up)...and a movie that looks like they are more Super Hero than Martial Artists...and, based on past history of certain people, could just as well be pushed into the background for other characters (which they were up front in the cartoons, the comics, and yes even the movies...I wholeheartedly disagree with folks that say April & Casey starred in the first movie. Were they important, yes, but the Turtles were clearly the stars of that film)...then yes, I do see a problem with it. Just my opinion though.

My point is, why not expect the worst, when Hollywood has done it before plenty of times...just like video game movies...

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

That's not how business works if something fails you're not going to keep investing money in it. TMNT is not immortal to this, P&L sold the rights to nick for a reason we were lucky that nick did b/c it kept the turtles relevant. Nick made an investment on a successful franchise that was "tanking" and told their version of the turtles and it became a hit. The movie was already in the works before nick bought the rights but you have to evolve in order to stay fresh you can't keep telling the same story over and over, it becomes stale and uninteresting that's why each version of the turtles is different.

I'm going off facts if this movie fails you wont get another reboot soon. 93 to 07 = 14 years. "failed projects" leads to the francise "tanking" the evidence is there and you've said it yourself. Why hope for failure? once nick is done sucking the money out of it what's going to happen? Disney buys it? we better hope so! if not TMNT will be in limbo (97- 03).

Ok, the question pertains to the double standard logic you use and I'm trying to understand your perspective/ judgment on something that hasn't even been seen yet.

Every version of the turtles has it's pros and cons but you've had the chance to view it and make your judgment. This movie is doing nothing that hasn't been done before yet it's acceptable for other versions (that you've seen) and not for this.

Change of origin: done

race bending: done

change of design: done

change/ different use of character: done

I've given plenty of examples heres another
leatherhead OT: swamp bully/ enemy, 2k3 smart/ ally, nick: outcast/ beast..

I prefer the 2k3 version but does that mean I want nick to fail just so I can get the version I want? No I enjoy what the nick series has to offer and their universe is different than other incarnation of the turtles similar but different. 2k3 leatherhead is different from OT but is closer to the mirage comic (source). the characters had changed origin/ accent/ design/he was a bad guy in one version and an ally in others. I knew the OT leatherhead first if I listed 2k3 version as a con and said it got everything wrong without giving it a chance I would've missed out on my favorite version of him.

The changes you say you don't like have been done in different versions of the turtles. It baffles me because you haven't seen the movie yet to give it a chance.

See it first than make a judgment, support it first if it stinks then you can have valid opinions, don't support the sequel because you have something to solid to go off.



It's the truth. entertainment is the US #1 export.



But according to most people standards of TMNT every version is "basterdized" if you compare them to each other. let me see if I can make sense of your logic.

OT: Your horse that passed (R.i.p.)

90 movie: black horse

Next mutation: racing horse

2k3: untamed horse

07movie: your uncle jimmy's horse that kicked you in the face.

You love horses all different versions one you really love, some not so much some are familiar but you love from a distance.

2014 movie: Your friend knows someone who's giving away a horse she say's it's built like a racing horse, reminds her of your horse, but heard it can have a temper like your uncle jimmy's horse. would you still take it?

It could bring back memories of the one you loved or it could kick you in the face.. would you give it a chance you could have a bond that was similar to your old horse. it would be different but you could still love it.

lol I don't know if this makes sense but I'm trying to show you my perspective.

I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. You cant really judge a film when you haven't seen it. You can form opinions and make predictions, and when people say "this looks AWESOME" or "this looks like dog sh**" These are opinions. Everyone has one. No one is right or wrong. I try not to say things like " These people don't care about TMNT " bc I don't know any of them personally. You cant judge someone's heart when you haven't even met them before. If I've read or watched videos of the actors, producers or directors saying that they are " huge fans" of TMNT " ( and I have ) than who am I to call them liars? I have absolutely no right to tell anyone that they are wrong for feeling a certain way about this movie. I can disagree with them, but imo there is no right or wrong. If some people want to call it crap and right it off before seeing it than that's their choice. Maybe years down the road they will get the TMNT film that they're looking for. I am just glad that the TMNT are back on the big screen and im thankful that this seems to be the TMNT film that ive been waiting for for twenty plus years now. It will be a great day when this second trailer gets released

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

See it first than make a judgment, support it first if it stinks then you can have valid opinions, don't support the sequel because you have something to solid to go off.

i am really getting sick of this argument, you and everyone for it haven't seen it either so you are the same assumptions of it being "The BEST TMNT FILM EVER"

why is it alright for you guys to say so you love it ,when we who have seen the same amount of footage and dont like what we see cant say anything

[Xav]

Originally Posted by RedRocBoy

Also kinda wish there was a movie game coming. I know movie games aren't the best but to have another TMNT game would be dope.

There is.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=46807

Originally Posted by sethmartin

The real reason Shredder is white in this is because do to the steep budget, paramount is banking on the overseas market (China really) for a large sum of the profits. They are worried that China isn't going to respond well to an Asian villain.

That's total bullsh*t. Shredder is Japanese not Chinese and the Chinese hate the Japanese. If anything they would want a Japanese villain. That would be like saying Poland wouldn't respond well to a German villain.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i am really getting sick of this argument, you and everyone for it haven't seen it either so you are the same assumptions of it being "The BEST TMNT FILM EVER"

why is it alright for you guys to say so you love it ,when we who have seen the same amount of footage and dont like what we see cant say anything

Dude calm down..Who said you couldn't say anything? Who said you didn't have just as much right to post here as anyone else? If your so sick of people stating an opinion that you don't agree with then don't read the forum. This is like the 3rd time in two days you've singled someone out just bc you disagree with them and THAT is what starts fights. There is nothing wrong with anyone saying that they don't like what they see or that they think this film will suck. But if you think the TMNT fans that are excited to see this don't have the right to express their excitement here IN THE FILM SECTION of the forum and discuss it with others then thats your problem. You tried to rub me the wrong way yesterday but I ignored you. Stop singling people out that you don't agree with and treating them like they are ruining your life. As long as they aren't getting nasty or throwing insults at each other then whats the problem.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

i am not attacking anyone you or the other poster..notice how not once i didnt say "You"

as for the other post all i said to you was it was a little hard to read, i did not single you out i was explaining what "Bad light" meant in movie terms

and i am clam, but this isn't the first time someone from the positive side has told someone else who isn't looking forward to the film, that they should wait and see before judging, and at the end of the day that is what we should all be doing

positive or negative, we are all judging based on the few things we have seen, yet the negative side gets called haters or whiny fan boys if we don't automatically love it.

you dont have to agree with me and that is fine , you are far from someone i actually have anything "against" ...again i "singled" you out because it seemed like you misunderstood the term in reference to asia seeing characters in a "bad light"

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i am not attacking anyone you or the other poster..notice how not once i didnt say "You"

as for the other post all i said to you was it was a little hard to read, i did not single you out i was explaining what "Bad light" meant in movie terms

and i am clam, but this isn't the first time someone from the positive side has told someone else who isn't looking forward to the film, that they should wait and see before judging, and at the end of the day that is what we should all be doing

positive or negative, we are all judging based on the few things we have seen, yet the negative side gets called haters or whiny fan boys if we don't automatically love it.

you dont have to agree with me and that is fine , you are far from someone i actually have anything "against" ...again i "singled" you out because it seemed like you misunderstood the term in reference to asia seeing characters in a "bad light"

I understand. I guess sometimes people don't convey exactly what they mean when typing on the computer and im one of those people. What I meant by " bad light" was how an Asian person is portrayed I guess. I think you get what im trying to say. Just like I understand that you didn't just call yourself a clam. You meant " calm". I don't have anything against you either dude. Im just so sick of this thread getting locked that's all. I admit it gets tiring seeing the same back and forth every single day day in and day out but it kind of goes with the territory Ive realized. Theres so much passion on both sides. This forum is much more fun when people are getting along. But I don't think that this " back and forth " will ever stop.

[MajorViolence]

I'm not going to bother quoting that gigantic post, but this idea that the TMNT movie meaning the death of the franchise is ridiculous. No matter how much you try to compare it to the worst points of the franchise, you can't ignore that TMNT is doing really well right now. If this movie were to tank, Nock wouldn't suddenly forget that they have an incredibly popular franchise with a successful cartoon and toy line on their hands. They would just say "Oh. Crap. This movie was a bad idea." The only thing I "admitted" was we had a long wait for movies at one point, and it was because for a long time absolutely anything associated with TMNT was failing or at best underperforming. That is so very different from the current state of things.

[Kanon]

Back to the main topic:

What do you think will the new trailer contain?
Some old scenes with new ones or completely different scenes?

I am so excited!

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Back to the main topic:

What do you think will the new trailer contain?
Some old scenes with new ones or completely different scenes?

I am so excited!

Hey you! : ) I think we will see some more action " fighting" in this one and maybe some more dialogue hopefully for the Turtles. Im interested in hearing what Knoxville's voice will sound like as Leo. How about you? what would you like to see?

[Kanon]

The first one told us the story from the human part, the second should do the other side.

I want to see a Trailer based on the insight of Splinter.
For example:
Splinter told his sons how the world above would react to them and what it`s like there.

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I'm sorry but I disagree with you. And in case someone goes 'you just don't want something different'...that's entirely false because I like the original cartoon, and I like the 2003 cartoon, and those 2 are very different.

When I saw the cartoons, read the comic books, and saw the previous movies they all had something in common. The Turtles had the same Basic looks & designs (things changed were Minor: color of headbands, a little more muscle in the 2003 cartoon, or giving Mikey freckles in the 2k12 cartoon). To me, they all looked like The Ninja Turtles.


So when a Ninja Turtle movie has Turtles that to me don't even look like the Ninja Turtles (let alone the ones that I saw in the 4 movies, the cartoons, and the comic books that I read growing up)...and a movie that looks like they are more Super Hero than Martial Artists...and, based on past history of certain people, could just as well be pushed into the background for other characters (which they were up front in the cartoons, the comics, and yes even the movies...I wholeheartedly disagree with folks that say April & Casey starred in the first movie. Were they important, yes, but the Turtles were clearly the stars of that film)...then yes, I do see a problem with it. Just my opinion though.

My point is, why not expect the worst, when Hollywood has done it before plenty of times...just like video game movies...

ok, I think your getting my points mixed, up by far I'm not saying that you have to love the movie, we havent seen it yet. What I'm saying is give it a chance. Hell after I see it I might not like it, what I'm trying to figure out is how can people hate something that hasn't been released.

remember I'm not debating the look of the turtles thats all a matter of preference some people like it some people don't I understand and respect it. I'm not a huge fan of the designs but in no way does that mean it will be a terrible movie, and i certainly want it to do well. what I'm saying is that there is always change, there is always something different.

Don't let your preference blind you understand the principals of my statements. The reason why i highlighted "saw" and "read" is because you seen it in it's entirety and was able to base your opinion off something substantial.

You say you've like every version of the turtles that you "saw" and you say the looks have changed in a minor way that's your opinion and i'm not arguing that. The looks of the turtles has changed for this movie does that fact alone mean this movie will be terrible? what about the origin, each version had a different story from the rest you've seen them and accepted them who's to say this movie origin though different may be just as good? you don't know wondering why?? you haven't seen it yet.

Transformers is a billion dollar franchise, why would bay change anything that generates that kind of cash? and you don't generate that kind of money without people being fans of his work. It's not true to source material but it's still good movies.

I go to the movies to see entertaining stories, I'm not going with my tmnt notebook to check off everything that has to be in the movie just so I can say its good. OK mikey is ugly but it doesnt mean his character wont be funny and enjoyable I dont like the turtles because they're cute but if thats your thing than it's cool.