The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I'm not going to bother quoting that gigantic post, but this idea that the TMNT movie meaning the death of the franchise is ridiculous. No matter how much you try to compare it to the worst points of the franchise, you can't ignore that TMNT is doing really well right now. If this movie were to tank, Nock wouldn't suddenly forget that they have an incredibly popular franchise with a successful cartoon and toy line on their hands. They would just say "Oh. Crap. This movie was a bad idea." The only thing I "admitted" was we had a long wait for movies at one point, and it was because for a long time absolutely anything associated with TMNT was failing or at best underperforming. That is so very different from the current state of things.

isn't that what we was talking about? long periods of time between reboots?
ok in the 90s the turtles had a successful cartoon, toy line and movie lol and due to a series of "flops" it lead to the franchise "tanking" as a result we had to wait 14 years for another reboot.

that is why i want the movie to do well. lol you just confirmed my who point of the argument.

i didnt say it would lead to the death of the franchise history shows and you said it yourself if it produces flops it will eventually fade away no matter how popular it is now.

again to reiterate my point I want this movie to do well so we can get as much turtles as we possibly can in my lifetime.

[fridaynightdestination]

Jeez, people, whats with the essay's?

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination

Jeez, people, whats with the essay's?

just conversation. would you rather it go back to I'm excited for the movie your and idiot back and forth smacktalk.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

just conversation. would you rather it go back to I'm excited for the movie your and idiot back and forth smacktalk.

It`s just a bit boring to read the same stuff again and I didn`t say that in a negative way. A little bit less would be more than okay.

Btw: What do you expect the new Trailer will contain?

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by Kanon

It`s just a bit boring to read the same stuff again and I didn`t say that in a negative way. A little bit less would be more than okay.

Btw: What do you expect the new Trailer will contain?

fun stuff.. is that better lol

[Gimme_Three]

we got shredder trail.. splinter tv spot.. maybe more interaction between the turtles would be cool.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Back to the main topic:

What do you think will the new trailer contain?
Some old scenes with new ones or completely different scenes?

I am so excited!

I think it will be giving us mostly different footage, and I think they will explain more of the 'plot'. I want to say we'll see more turtles than the previous trailer, but as of now, I really don't know. Hope to see them fight, and as Ramboraph4life said, I hope we see the ninja/martial arts aspect in it too.

But I am also excited!

[Taichi]

Standard length of a sai isn't arbitrary. Based on your size... a sai should extend 1" past your elbow when the "blade" is tucked along your forearm. So yeah, the sai shown in the pic are definitely "standard" in the sense they aren't too big or small.

I trained with using the sai in karate... being 6'4" my sai are 16" long.

They will however be small to Raph... but I like that. Even though these Turtles are bigger than past incarnations... the weaponry seems like something you could find anywhere.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

isn't that what we was talking about? long periods of time between reboots?
ok in the 90s the turtles had a successful cartoon, toy line and movie lol and due to a series of "flops" it lead to the franchise "tanking" as a result we had to wait 14 years for another reboot.

that is why i want the movie to do well. lol you just confirmed my who point of the argument.

i didnt say it would lead to the death of the franchise history shows and you said it yourself if it produces flops it will eventually fade away no matter how popular it is now.

again to reiterate my point I want this movie to do well so we can get as much turtles as we possibly can in my lifetime.

I keep saying this over and over again, but you keep ignoring it. You're comparing one project failing in an otherwise incredibly successful franchise to a decade of failed projects, and treating them as if their impact would be the same.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

its cool I dont like arguing with people I just wish people were as happy and excited as i am and im sorry your not a still hope if you choose to see the movie that you are pleasantly surprised.

End the end we are all fans of TMNT, we all have are own opinions but that's one thing we share.

Sam, honest question....and i'm not flaming you or attacking you; if you don't like arguing with people, why do you keep arguing with people? If you don't like that someone says something negative about this movie, just ignore their posts....or better yet, "ignore" the user.

There are a lot of people who aren't excited about this film, and they are entitled to that opinion just as much as you are entitled to your's, you said so yourself.

[Bob]

IMO, I wouldn’t hold out much hope for whole glimpses of the Turtles and Splinter. The trailers will more likely be like the ones for the first Transformers film. I think Paramount (who handled TF, too, let’s not forget) want to keep the Turtles and Splinter hidden for as long as possible.

[CyberCubed]

Considering how ugly the Turtles look that wouldn't surprise me.

[Radical Raph]

Spoiler:

[Bry]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Its a teaster action shots in teaster dont last very long ever. find me a teaser trailer that's 1:30 secs 36 sec of which are blackscreen title cards for credit, that leave less then a minute to show major action beats, they showed the down hill snow part, Donnie mikey righting, foot being beat, leo flip(with two Katana in hand) with a total of 17 full second of major Action scenes not including gun fire or explosions, the rest is there to show story element and "flashy" action EI explosions running Etc etc, and character shot of shredder and Dialog with shredder and april.

It has some stuff, sure. But I'd argue that even the 2007 movie's trailer delivered more actual "ninja" action:



The only truly ninja-style thing I recall in the 2014 movie's trailer was Leo's flip off the water tower. The rest was pretty "smash-smash-boom", IMO.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Also Hulks punch is totally different i get so tired of the comparison there is absolutely no comparison.

A huge, hulking green dude punched someone and they went flying in the air. I mean... there's some comparison.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

its cool I dont like arguing with people I just wish people were as happy and excited as i am and im sorry your not a still hope if you choose to see the movie that you are pleasantly surprised.

And I can definitely understand that, but you can't expect everyone to share your opinion or your enthusiasm. There are very legitimate concerns and criticisms being shared here, and we're all allowed to express what we think and how we feel. Attempting to shout down every differing opinion just makes this place more tense and hostile.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Its a teaster action shots in teaster dont last very long ever. find me a teaser trailer that's 1:30 secs 36 sec of which are blackscreen title cards for credit, that leave less then a minute to show major action beats, they showed the down hill snow part, Donnie mikey righting, foot being beat, leo flip(with two Katana in hand) with a total of 17 full second of major Action scenes not including gun fire or explosions, the rest is there to show story element and "flashy" action EI explosions running Etc etc, and character shot of shredder and Dialog with shredder and april.

Also Hulks punch is totally different i get so tired of the comparison there is absolutely no comparison.

As i have stated before the foot is not realistically Ive shown clip and explained it about the only thing i haven don is gotten my friend over here to film and reenact the scene.

As a martial artist and a person who's watch plenty of choreographed fight scene i can tell you what has been seen is very realistic in terms of what would really happen.



Why would it not matter hes the on who teaches them if he's doing martial arts in the movie then they will.


WHy wouldn't it Action scene are the hardest to add CGI especially CGI in which its a fully CGI character fight or inter action with a non CGI character. Again ai bring up Planet of the apes Because this is a movie likely to have tone of Physical inter action and action packed scene and we have seen next to nothing, bits and pieces a couple shots of apes on horses, guys in mocapped suits that's about it.
Godzilla is another which has shown barely any of the "star" and yet will most likely see this monster through the majority of the movie.



its cool I dont like arguing with people I just wish people were as happy and excited as i am and im sorry your not a still hope if you choose to see the movie that you are pleasantly surprised.

End the end we are all fans of TMNT, we all have are own opinions but that's one thing we share.

So what are you saying? We all have opinions, but as long as ours are same as yours?

[MastahShredder]

I'm mostly a lurker but I will say that while I admire samsteals enthusiasm, you don't have to try and get people to change their views all the time. Friendly discourse is fine, but the repetitiveness of defending the film looks like it's almost become a job for you. Don't let it eat away at you, the film will speak for itself.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

Sam, honest question....and i'm not flaming you or attacking you; if you don't like arguing with people, why do you keep arguing with people? If you don't like that someone says something negative about this movie, just ignore their posts....or better yet, "ignore" the user.

There are a lot of people who aren't excited about this film, and they are entitled to that opinion just as much as you are entitled to your's, you said so yourself.

I try to for better word Enlighten individuals. I dont like argueing, But i will if i feel someone is being miss informed, or the are stating things as fact when in fact they aren't. People talking about how the turtles re so large 7' tall 10' tall 17' tall they're 6' tall give or take couple inches using math, basic measurements and perspective to calculate. Which prove that they are likely to keep the actors heights as the turtles height which is what i was expecting anyway.

People say the Production has not faith for love of the franchise when there is more evidence to the contrary. These people are passionate about it. Even Danny(who sadly got recast) was supper excited and a huge turtles fan. I moment Johnathan was hired he wanted to know everything about the turtle and sat down the Kevin the CO creator and Kevin says hes been a part of the production since it inception 4-5 years ago and has work closely with the screen writers directer and even the producers, i could go on but i wont.

Etc etc etc, there are a lot of passionate fans and concerns are fine but to damn a movie(which many are doing) Make no sense to me, but then if the dislike something so much WHY spend do much time and energy to dislike something this is what gets me Your a fan of turtles that fine. wouldn't you rather talk happily about thing you love instead to pit apart and complain about something many of you obviously Loath.

I defend this movie because as other i want it to do well I want to talk freely about why i love it have long discussions about what i think is possible. Like fans should to is this not a fan thread for movie?
I dont like seeing people being concerned if they are concerned the best thing i can to is try to paint there concerns as something that doesn't warrant as much concern so that they too can Enjoy it.

Originally Posted by Bry

It has some stuff, sure. But I'd argue that even the 2007 movie's trailer delivered more actual "ninja" action:



The only truly ninja-style thing I recall in the 2014 movie's trailer was Leo's flip off the water tower. The rest was pretty "smash-smash-boom", IMO.

all iu know is that to me everything seen is pretty much thing i have seen through out TMNT, tmnt aren't always the "super ninjas" the 80's cartoon barely ever paints them and stealthy ninja assassins, 2k3 has load of outlandish chase scenes and action, which this movie seem to have.

As for as the trailer you showed he had maybe a slightly bit more "ninja" action but not much there was only 1 fullk seconds of "ninja" actions

Originally Posted by Bry

A huge, hulking green dude punched someone and they went flying in the air. I mean... there's some comparison.

The guy didn't go flying seriously he gets knocked back, im not try to argue you think the guy if Flying through the air Via Team rocket from pokemon but hes not yes hes knock slightly up and back but nothing like hulk who bashes thor with in less the a millisecond hes completely out of the frame and scene. With Raph's scene you still see the foots arm in the shot as it ends that's not the same thing.

Originally Posted by Bry

And I can definitely understand that, but you can't expect everyone to share your opinion or your enthusiasm. There are very legitimate concerns and criticisms being shared here, and we're all allowed to express what we think and how we feel. Attempting to shout down every differing opinion just makes this place more tense and hostile.

I understand Not everyone is going to be Excited But if they aren't excited why waist the time. focus on something else thet you do enjoy. I mean you you still have interest in the movie there has to be something there you are hopeful for is so discuss that if not again why waste time ranting abo0ut something you have no urge to see nor even bother with, that is what trolls do the complain and make fun of stuff others enjoy for the sake of complaining and starting drama.

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

I'm mostly a lurker but I will say that while I admire samsteals enthusiasm, you don't have to try and get people to change their views all the time. Friendly discourse is fine, but the repetitiveness of defending the film looks like it's almost become a job for you. Don't let it eat away at you, the film will speak for itself.

http://i.imgur.com/3a3Xchg.gif

I dont let it bug me anymore people almost got me down awhile ago with all the negativity and saying the majority felt the same way made me feel singled out. But I've come to realize that people who dont like what they have seen are just a very Vocal Minority, if twitter is and indication there is a heck of a lot of positivity i check it daily, talk with fans, Correct concerns(turtle aliens) (mbay director). And what most people say after i correct them is "oh ok that's not so bad" not all but many. but the majority of them are positive

[sethmartin]

Did the turtles franchise ever really "tank"? At the most it's just had it's share of ups and downs. Turtles 3 didn't do well but it certainly didn't tank the franchise. The OT series still continued for a number of years then Next Mutation picked up immediately after that and then the 03 series. The turtles franchise isn't going to tank because of this movie. If it's bad, we might not see another turtles film for a few years but I doubt it will "ruin" the franchise.

[Candy Kappa]

Y'know, when discussing the turtles size, it's not just about their height. Sure they can be 6 feet and something, but the sure look extremely bulky as well. The girth of Raph's body looks insane and fitting of being compared to the Hulk, or a mini-Hulk.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Y'know, when discussing the turtles size, it's not just about their height. Sure they can be 6 feet and something, but the sure look extremely bulky as well. The girth of Raph's body looks insane and fitting of being compared to the Hulk, or a mini-Hulk.

even then they are muscular, but they're not huge in comparsion to "standard" model body, the width of shoulders is usually about two to three heads worth and for raph this is no different but raph has always been the "large" more "muscular" of the turtles with leo being leaner but stil muscular mikey being shorter but more toned and donnie taller and lean. which these versions fit into I mean the one thing that can be said definitely is that the shells are much larger then they have been before. they taller and wider