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I hope you can come to respect that some people aren't excited about this variation of what's being done to our beloved Turtle Teens. There's is no need to defend every choice that the studio, director, writers, and producers have made and continue to make for this film. Not everyone will be as excited for the changes made to the franchise (much like the storm that erupted here back when 2012 Nick Turtles were coming to life.....heck, even i was skeptical, but i've come to LOVE that version of the Turtles). The thing a lot of us "haterz" are so adamant about, is that history repeats itself. Especially when it comes to Hollywood. My best friend is a HUGE Transformers fan. He owns almost every released figure (US, Europe, and Japan) from every line up to 2005, he owns copies of all the marvel, DW, and IDW comics runs, and every series on DVD. That guys even writes/draws Generation 1 fan fiction comics! Having spent 25 years of my life as his bro, i've learned a LOT about Transformers. When the rumors of the live action film came out, i got a copy of the script...and i felt sad inside. When the film came out, my friends had to persuade me to go see it with a smuggled 40oz and paying for my ticket, and a promise not to say "i told you so" when we left. My best bud was outside protesting the film dressed as Generation 1 Optimus Prime with a sign that says, "guns don't kill people, Megatron does." When we left the theater, my gang of friends all looked at me and said, "don't say a f****n' word!" If you couldn't tell from my avatar, i am an ENORMOUS G.I.Joe ARAH fan. When word that Steven Sommers was directing the live action film, i was skeptical. I am not a fan of any of his work. So i looked to the writers of the film.....did a bit of research on the script and got my hands on a copy of the original script and the revised Larry Hama version. That script was just insulting on so many levels. Surely the actual movie couldn't be that bad. To this day i still haven't been able to sit through that garbage-fest that is Rise of Cobra. It was streaming on Netflix, and i couldn't make it past the PS2 graphics of the "desert" as Duke and his "best bud" Ripcord headed to the Pit. "Grape, what are you getting at?" you might be asking yourself. History has shown that Hollywood only cares about name brand recognition and doesn't really care about making quality films. There is absolutely NO REASON, with the HUGE amount of QUALITY stories in these franchises, a great director and team couldn't tell an amazing and engaging story that stays true and earnest to the source material while also be exciting and "rebooted" (just look at marvel movies). With the leaked script and the scenes from the trailer that match up to the action scenes of that "Blue Door" garbage, it leaves a LOT of us fans on edge. We've already been there....and it wasn't pretty.....or at least, it wasn't as pretty as it could have, no, it should have been. When there are comic writers and fan fiction writers that create better treatments than the films Hollywood churns out, i think we, as a fan community, should demand better. That is why the "HATERZ" keep commenting on something we LOATHE. We expect and want better from something we love and grew up with. In fact, it has already been done better 24 years ago. Our opinions carry no less weight than yours or anyone else's as a fan. I can safely speak for everyone that is disappointed in what we've seen so far in saying that we DESERVE better. The taste in our mouth right now is not good....and history has shown, that instinct isn't always wrong.
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I hope they show the Turtle Van in the 2nd trailer.
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Claiming that those who aren't positive are "trolls" who are expressing negative opinions "for the sake of complaining and starting drama" is assuming a lot about other peoples' motives, and it's pretty insulting. Not everyone may agree with you, but it's not fair to dismiss their opinions outright like that. There's nothing wrong with a little friendly discussion or debate, but people have a right to their opinions and it's not worth getting upset over. Opinions are subjective, and when people feel like someone is trying to "correct" them for expressing theirs, they're bound to get tense.
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These forums are A fan forum this thread is a fan thread there are Fans(of the movie) then there are those obviously not fans(of the movie) Many and i mean many have been pushed away by negativity over this movie, Many have joined these boards to talk and discuss there interest in the movie and many have left. So me that is one of the worse things that can happen to a Fandom is have those who dislike a version so much they Forcefully remove newer would be fans(whether you mean to or not), it alienates people and that's wrong. You know how many new fans both Gi joe and transformers brought to the Fandom how many new open mind willing to explore every version whether is be comics classics toy movies Gen 1 RAH or what ever. Why would anyone want any different? because you dislike like a specific version? One that no one has seen no less. And i know you may bot be one of those people Or not mean to be one of those people. But i have seen it countless times on these forums. You know how many new member join after new news was shown then the got scalded as plants and thing and Thank goodness the mods did something but the damage was already done I have serveral people on my friends list who have not been on in month afraid to even discuss why they like the film many who dont want to be involved in hearing all the complaints. Which is a shame because this is a Fan board for fans and they are fans of the new MOVIE, and they dont feel they can express their love. I Mean im a very Open minded person pretty much everyone on these forums knows this by now. I can except thing for what they are even if is dislike them I guess im saying is if i dislike something enough to make me "hate" it i just move on.
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thats the only thing i want to see in motion, just as much as some combat.
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I really hope the 2nd trailer doesn't even have one shot from the previous trailer. Hoping for brand new footage. Stoked to see it (Please no cheesy Turtle van!)
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i want to point out the adverse effects both series of films had to their respective franchises. the jumbled junk designs of the Transformers totally bled over into the toy line, the comics, and the animated series. Transformers had been going full force prior to the first movie's release, but the film changed the course of the franchise's momentum. The stitched together plotline and empty characters set the tone for everything in tranformers....even IDW has had trouble righting the sins committed by Bay et al. Even great artists' designs are subjected to jumbled junk treatment of the bot designs. (do you see how this could be negative for TMNT for those who don't like these new turtle designs?) G.I.Joe is a different story. IDW is the only series that is still on going for Joe. The garbage that was "Rise of Cobra" was but a black blip on the radar in the greater Joeverse, much like G.I.Joe Extreme. It spawned the greatest Joe figs ever in the "Pursuit of Cobra" figure line. A new animated series was spawned....with new versions of many characters, much to the joy of the fans young and old. Then the NEW film happened. All production of the PoC line was halted, Renegades was canceled, and the entire line was put into hiatus. Wave 1 Joe Movies figs flooded retail stores and pegwarmed worse than "arctic destros"....and most stores put off ordering anything more. And what happened next was "teh deth of da line.!11!!!1" There are no more G.I.Joe figures available at retail and it's been that way for almost a year. And as far as Hasbro is concerned, the line is dead outside of a few collector's club overpriced figures. These are recent and relevant examples of the impact that this film could have on the TMNT franchise. The designs of the Bay/Liebesman joint could bleed over into 2012 and IDW and the ongoing line. or at worse, the movie toys could bomb and collect dust and scare retailers away from ordering future product. i haven't seen the film...none of has. So i don't know if it is going to be bad or good....but it looks bad so far. It rings true to "Blue Door" and that isn't a good direction for TMNT. If they put off releasing the next few waves of 2012 to make way for over-ordered waves of movie TMNT figs.....*shudder*
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But i would like to see alot more definitely but i bet there will be atleast small clips from the last trailers. Maybe don and mikey fighting in the lair and splinter Swords swirl.
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You are right about the gi joe figures But i dont think that was the fault of hasbro or the movie per say, as it is the fault of the stores expecting and over estimating. I loved retaliation Hated renegades loved the figures though the show not so much, Gi joe aren't wanted fugitives, Though i will say i enjoyed aspects of it Because that's just how i am. I hoping toy store know well enough not to over purchase tmnt movie figures this is bad for any line and what leads to peg warming. I have found that my local walmart and kmart suck at order toy though we live in a spot that isn;t very busy nor heavily Kid oriented and the closest mall(target, TRU, etc, etc) is 45 mins away they order much better but they have a larger childrens Demographic
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Hoping for anything more then an extended version of the Brothers TV spot is wishfull thinking IMO
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If by 'extended' you mean 'new footage'...then I'm game.
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Samxsteal, I love your unwavering positivity. You are a light in a sea of negativity! I come here for any news, as this is the most likely place to have it first, but the nitpicking over "what if's" and conjecture is a waste of time and the negativity levels are ...bizarre. TMNT fan for 30 years, not a "newbie" or "casual" this forum just isn't a very friendly place sometimes!
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I admire Sam's passion too but it is very, very tiring when every thread is a samxsteal postathon...no offense mate but try giving it a rest would you?
I don't think that you are going to convince anybody who already dislikes the new movie to think otherwise by ramming your own opinions on it down everybody's throat- all it is achieving (personally) is making me damn sick of seeing your posts everywhere. You love the new movie and are very, very excited about it- we get it. Nothing personal dude.
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Back to the topic again:
We get a second trailer pretty fast. Is there a possebility of a third trailer, or did they read the thread about GOTG maybe won august and got cold feet?
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