The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by discordiatookie

I think he means this:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ie/image-4.jpg

Looks like Raph wearing Leo's swords... A couple of people have said that they can see nunchucks too, but I'm not seeing any?


Also, I can't be the only one thinking this?

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ie/image-5.jpg

That's because the visible nunchaku is tucked in the right side of his belt. You can see it when he moves in the trailer.

[discordiatookie]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

That's because the visible nunchaku is tucked in the right side of his belt. You can see it when he moves in the trailer.

Ah cool, thanks. Like I said I'm on my phone and it's not the clearest.

[UGHShellshocked]

[QUOTE=discordiatookie;1256498]I think he means this:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ie/image-4.jpg

Looks like Raph wearing Leo's swords... A couple of people have said that they can see nunchucks too, but I'm not seeing any?




Check out his side for Mikey's nunchucks

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Simple. I've already mentioned all the big stuff that bothers me about the new flick probably about 50 times (the designs, severe lack of any footage of any Martial Arts Fighting, seeming strange that if Raph is the Main Turtle that most think he will be...that he isn't the one being featured more in the trailers and such) so it's on to the nitpicking stuff.

I'm with you the two things I wanna see are of the turtles interacting with one another and seeing some actual martial arts fighting. We've only seen seconds of them fighting which is a real shame.

[The Fifth Turtle]

Personally I loved the new trailer. Every new little glimpse I get I become a little more pumped to see this movie. Despite all of the negative backlash on the movie I personally hope it does well and that it turns out to be a good flick.

[discordiatookie]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

http://37.media.tumblr.com/40df4c173...c0u1o3_500.gif

Check out his side for Mikey's nunchucks

Awesome, thanks! That's a lot clearer than what I was looking at..,

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Turtle

Personally I loved the new trailer. Every new little glimpse I get I become a little more pumped to see this movie. Despite all of the negative backlash on the movie I personally hope it does well and that it turns out to be a good flick.

I loved those new turtle seconds but still not showing much.

Whens the next trailer? anyone?

Lets face it, if he actually needed something he would make his own contact-like lenses because the glasses would probably fall off during fighting/training. But the real question is why are we worrying so much about it. It's not a biggie

Exactly. I think Donatello probably has so much going on that he can't be bothered with fixing his glasses so he just tapes them together.

[Lou 500]

[zodiac brave]

im excited.

ive fallen into the idgaf phase and am just looking forward to the new reinterpretation.

lessee how this goes.

[CrazySquirrel]

That Raph gif is getting me so hyped.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by xChri5x

The turtles need to emote in this movie which is something the earlier films lacked. In order for this to be accomplished the faces need to have certain elements otherwise it would look too cartoony and take you out of the movie.
For instance, if they went with faces closer to these:
http://www.3dartistonline.com/users/..._pose_v001.jpg

In order to have the mouth open wide (like with Mikey) and then smaller (like Leo's) skin on the face would have to appear and disappear as needed. This is what happens in cartoons and would look very out of place in a live action movie. Things need to be accounted for in facial structures including natural folds and lines in the skin. If you want convincing real world Turtles that can do more than grunt that is.

Did they really lack emoting ability, though? I agree that CGI can technically show more, but tell me that the old Henson suits couldn't emote pretty damn well themselves:





The thing is, the emoting was often more subtle, but that's what makes it effective. Seems to be a lost art these days.

You don't need "human" lips and features for them to look convincing. If anything, re-designing the Turtles to look more "human" for the sake of emoting ability is just laziness. There's no reason they couldn't have made the wider, bigger mouths the Turtles have work and look great in this movie, but that would have taken more effort and work mapping out and designing inhuman-but-expressive facial structures than it would just making them more humanoid, so... here we are.

[The Fifth Turtle]

I wonder what the reason behind Raph having all the weapons is. Perhaps his brothers are injured and he is making some sort of "last stand" against the Shredder. Pretty cool either way.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Im pretty sure that was Leo aka Knoxville yelling Donnie on the slope

I thought that was Raph yelling Donnie?

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

I thought that was Raph yelling Donnie?

I'm about 99% certain that's Raph.

Originally Posted by Bry

Did they really lack emoting ability, though? I agree that CGI can technically show more, but tell me that the old Henson suits couldn't emote pretty damn well themselves:





The thing is, the emoting was often more subtle, but that's what makes it effective. Seems to be a lost art these days.

You don't need "human" lips and features for them to look convincing. If anything, re-designing the Turtles to look more "human" for the sake of emoting ability is just laziness. There's no reason they couldn't have made the wider, bigger mouths the Turtles have work and look great in this movie, but that would have taken more effort and work mapping out and designing inhuman-but-expressive facial structures than it would just making them more humanoid, so... here we are.

TMNT did just fine emoting as well with the classic head design. The old puppet heads from the first movie emoted really well, and a CGI version of a similar design would have given it the extra push it needed to work by modern standards. The lips redesign is just disturbing to look at. I hate it.

[Zulithe]

Teenage Mutant Shrek Brothers!



Not really a second trailer to me, more like a revised trailer to better show off the bros without revealing/showing much else extra

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

Trailers spoil movies

if you dont want the movie spoiled, avoid some trailers not all

I have come to the conclusion, for when I'm looking forward to a movie, to not watch any trailers. Try to avoid them. I started this around last year when my friend started pointing out how much they put in trailers. Started it with Thor 2, and when

Spoiler:

Thors hand was chopped off, I was like 'whoa, really?' I had no idea if that was actually true or not, since I hadn't seen the trailers. Does he have a fake hand half the time? I didn't know, and that's the beauty of it.

The point if a trailer is to get you excited for the movie. To get you in the theatre. So ... if you already are excited and you know you'll watch the movie, why watch the trailers? Eventually, for me, not seeing the trailers and not knowing exactly how everything will pan out helps me enjoy the movie more.

One movie I'm especially looking forward to is Amazing Spider-Man 2. I really liked the first movie, and love Spider-Man comics, etc., so I tried to avoid the trailers WAY more. There were two times it was playing in my theatre, and I literally covered my ears, strummed the back of my head, closed my eyes, and hummed softly. When I fast forward through commercials, I have started to close my eyes so I don't get a glimpse. I've started trying to stay away from televisions, so I don't see a glimpse. I've tried to avoid spoilers and pictures on social media feverishly. And you know what? It's all been worth it, because everyone's saying they've 'seen the whole movie already'. And I get to go into the theatre, with hardly knowing ANYTHING. Sure, I know some things about the film, and since I've read the comics, I have a guess how they'll pan out.

Spoiler:

I have a guess about something that may happen to someone.

But the glorious thing is, I don't know. And I'll have an awesome time watching it tonight.

The reality is, studios shouldn't be giving so much away to make people want to avoid the trailers. You should give enough to draw them in, and then blow them away in the cinema.

(The reasons I've watched these TMNT trailers, though, is mainly because of the controversy. I'm still being won over. In the beginning, I was not sure if I was excited for this film. And plus, I have a TMNT podcast, so we have to talk about it. And that's why I'm super happy that the marketing is trying to keep this 'non-spoiler-ish'!)

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i feel this trailer is a perfect example on how to sell it without giving away to much information..its new enough for the general public that it will be a nice refresher of hey look whats coming with nice shots of the turtles

I'm glad you appreciate it. I agree with you. Even though I wanted a new trailer with footage, I'm okay with this. No spoilers (kinda), but we get a new and better feel for how things will BE in the film.

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

So this is considered a "new" trailer?

**yawn** It's just around 10 seconds of added footage compared to the first...

One thing that did disappoint me is how they put the label 'new' on there. Should've been 'extended'.

Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

The only thing that bothers me is Don's glasses. Like...really? Is he really gonna wear those things the whole time? Oh well

Another thing that disappoints me.

Originally Posted by Raphtastic

Well, I like *this* trailer better than the other one...but I can see it's going to be something where you pretty much leave your brain at home and have to adjust to or ignore the new design. Unveiling Donnie's face this way was an...interesting choice. I just, um, kind of can't help but instinctively hate it. Mikey looks better in the new shots and Leo is by far the best design. If they all looked more like Leo, I'd feel better about everything. Raph actually looks better than Don to me right now, which is a surprise. I still don't feel like I've seen enough of either to know how they'll really look in context, if that makes sense. Don's expression is just so weird in that little glimpse! It isn't the kind of facial expression that is really appealing on anybody or that would establish a good baseline for what anyone's face would look like normally. If he's making open mouthed, pursed lip faces a lot throughout the film (like a habitual, idiosyncratic thing), he's terrifying. The animation on the faces is obviously highly detailed and well done, but it'd be nice to get some friendly and fierce close ups on Raph and Don. And more shots of all of them speaking, laughing, smiling, sneering at opponents. 'Cause so far, I can appreciate the craftsmanship, but just can't help but feel aversion toward the design.

I know I'm hung up on faces, but it's how I relate to characters. I still don't have much of a real sense of the story and why we're supposed to care that the turtles or April are in jeopardy aside from "they look cool" and "lookit the badass fighting and parts of buildings exploding/toppling/whatever". It seems very much like it's a take our word for it, they're heroes and you are just supposed to care about the good guys kinda thing. I hope there's more humor and heart to it than we see here, but I'm not going to bet on that. We'll see soon enough! The action and effects will be pretty, at least.

I agree with you on some aspects. Really, REALLY liked the close-ups. Didn't have a problem with anything that I remember, expect maybe Donnie looking a little 'hillbillie'-ish, but that will probably grow on me in the movie, and it was already a weird shot of him anyway. It got me really excited.

But was it enough? Eh ... no. They're going to have to release more of the turtles to get people in the theatres. So, as you said, would really love more and various shots of the turtles, to show off more of their faces. That's what'll be even more exciting.

[TigerClaw]

How much you willing to bet that, when ever they release a 3rd trailer, It'll show one of the Turtles doing, The obligatory "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" Yell that you see in a lot of movies.

[NYShell]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

Looks like Raph wearing Leo's swords... A couple of people have said that they can see nunchucks too, but I'm not seeing any?


http://37.media.tumblr.com/40df4c173...c0u1o3_500.gif

Check out his side for Mikey's nunchucks

Leo, Don, Mike get captured by the Foot according to one of the set videos and pics. Raph is with April and Vernon most of the time. He's got all their weapons to save the day and his brothers. Safest guess.

[NYShell]

Just saw the second trailer last night. Not much of a second trailer, but I loved the new shots of the Turtles. I'm glad Donny doesn't have the Nick tooth influence. i think he can do without the nerd glasses; he already has enough gear on him as it is. Shredder looked huge. Probably some mech type armor. That shot of Raph looked sick. He's got all their weapons. Saving his bros I assume. Hopefully we get even more footage than this next time. The close up shots looked good. The CG stuck out at times, but the footage got me a little more hooked than before.

[Dākunaito]

Originally Posted by NYShell

Leo, Don, Mike get captured by the Foot according to one of the set videos and pics. Raph is with April and Vernon most of the time. He's got all their weapons to save the day and his brothers. Safest guess.

Agreed, but no sign of Donnie's Bo perhaps it's collapsible.