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Old 05-01-2014, 03:44 PM   #461
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Those complaining about the new trailer. I think its wise for Paramount not to show too much footage for the new movie. Trailers these days have been showing way to much lately, That when you go see the actual movies, You already seen all the good parts, Just because those trailers spoiled them.

I bet Trailer #3 will be a more plot driven one.
Still doesn't mean I like the direction that this movie is apparently going.

Sorry, but as of now, I'm more excited for GOTG than TMNT.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:45 PM   #462
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I'm sooo confused. I don't like the steampunk movement which seems to have widened to incorporate the imagery we see in the GotG trailer (old school western heroes in an advanced space age) but daaaaaamn do I love racoons!
And this raccoon looks particularly feisty. I don't know if I want to like this movie or not....
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:53 PM   #463
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Aww c'mon, the space cowboy theme isn't a bad one. Firefly/Serenity and Cowboy Bebop use it!

I like it. It's not steampunk to me whatsoever, it's just dirty. And honestly, I think sci-fi space exploration these properties delve into would be dirty and gritty. I doubt people would be spending all their time washing and polishing every inch of their ships.
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:19 PM   #464
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Rocket is the greatest.

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Old 05-01-2014, 05:34 PM   #465
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Those complaining about the new trailer. I think its wise for Paramount not to show too much footage for the new movie. Trailers these days have been showing way to much lately, That when you go see the actual movies, You already seen all the good parts, Just because those trailers spoiled them.

I bet Trailer #3 will be a more plot driven one.
I agree with you that movies do show off too much in there trailers these days and they spoil too many of their money shots but I find it very hard to believe that the marketing team behind this film would be the first ones in very long time to attempt to step outside that trend. Especially considering that this is supposed to be a summer blockbuster and there are more than a few big name competitors up against it and on top of that there's been vocal backlash almost since day one. With the movie coming out in about 3 months now I think that if that had any money shots or big wow moments guaranteed to put butts in seats they'd be showing them off already and the only reason we haven't seen them is because either they're still not ready to be shown or they don't exist. What we're seeing in the trailers now might very well be the "good" parts
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Old 05-01-2014, 05:36 PM   #466
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Rocket is the greatest.

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I'm hoping this movie makes Rocket into Marvel's next breakout star. In a much better alternate universe, Rocket is as popular as Wolverine.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #467
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Aww c'mon, the space cowboy theme isn't a bad one. Firefly/Serenity and Cowboy Bebop use it!

I like it. It's not steampunk to me whatsoever, it's just dirty. And honestly, I think sci-fi space exploration these properties delve into would be dirty and gritty. I doubt people would be spending all their time washing and polishing every inch of their ships.

Lol, exactly, I felt Firefly and Serenity were terrible.

But I'm not against the gritty. I agree that realistically that would be how things are.

But yes, perhaps steam punk is the incorrect term in this case. But these universes attract those type of fans. Kinda how indie music turned into a style, not just a definition.

It looks like Firefly all over again from sassy lead to questionable acting.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:15 AM   #468
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I'm hoping this movie makes Rocket into Marvel's next breakout star. In a much better alternate universe, Rocket is as popular as Wolverine.
I thought so too at first, but now, I wouldn't be surprised if Starlord is the one that breaks out. He's just too much fun. And if he keeps playing retro music, he's really going to be kicking that nostalgia factor into high gear.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:21 PM   #469
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Those complaining about the new trailer. I think its wise for Paramount not to show too much footage for the new movie. Trailers these days have been showing way to much lately, That when you go see the actual movies, You already seen all the good parts, Just because those trailers spoiled them.

I bet Trailer #3 will be a more plot driven one.
So showing the good parts to draw more people into seeing the movie is bad advertising imagine that.

Cowboy Bebop had space cowboy elements most were standard anime, cool ships, mecha, great fight scenes,cool fighting characters, big boobed ladies, characters with questionable genders, cryogenics, cute dog/mascot character, but they didn't ride around in a big horsey spaceship.

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Old 05-03-2014, 08:58 PM   #470
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I'm hoping this movie makes Rocket into Marvel's next breakout star. In a much better alternate universe, Rocket is as popular as Wolverine.
Joss Whedon said James Gunn wanted to direct it BECAUSE of Rocket and both Whedon and Gunn have said Rocket is the heart of the movie.

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So showing the good parts to draw more people into seeing the movie is bad advertising imagine that.

Cowboy Bebop had space cowboy elements most were standard anime, cool ships, mecha, great fight scenes,cool fighting characters, big boobed ladies, characters with questionable genders, cryogenics, cute dog/mascot character, but they didn't ride around in a big horsey spaceship.
The Bebop itself was their big horsey spaceship. Big enough that it held two smaller aircraft inside it.



Of everything you listed, only mecha is particularly a large anime element. The rest are pretty common across sci-fi in general, especially in the 80s and 90s.
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:01 AM   #471
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What part of 31.4 Million in 6 days do people not understand? Its been like what 3 months and the GOTG trailer still hasn't got that many views? This movie has garnered WAY more interest than GOTG.. that's for sure. The entire internet has been on fire for this movie for YEARS now lol. not months, years. Now before one of you dives at your keyboard to write " Half of it is negative " know this my friends.. I guarantee you that most people ragging on this movie will have their as**s planted firmly in those seats when the movie comes out. Im sure they are still working on the CGI and there will be a third trailer. As for the first 2 trailers.. they've succeeded in what they were designed to do, create controversy and hype. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They KNOW that these new turtles are freaky hence the Mikey Joke. Every Geek site, every blog, every forum for entertainment, social media.. it was everywhere, everyone was talking about it and haven't stopped since. Unlike any other movie being made this one has had an unrelenting build up with emotions boiling over fans at each others throats " will it bomb, will it succeed, will it be better than the original, will we have Saki, who is Aprils father, will we see other mutants, will Liebesman pull it off, will Fox pull it off, will the turtles have enough screen time, will Splinter be Yoshi or Yoshi's pet rat, is Sachs an Utrom, will the turtles origin be an accident, did Sachs/Shredder create the turtles, will we see "Raid" style fight sequences" will the Foot actually fight like ninjas, will the film be violent having the Nick label attached, What will Knoxville sound like... NEVER has there EVER been SO MUCH hype for a movie " that I can remember" like this one. Whether people come off as hating this or not they are asking these questions daily and in doing so have invested so much time, energy and emotion in this film that I cannot see them not going to see this just to have ALL of these questions answered, if not out of pure curiosity alone. Then you add all of the kids that will most likely eat it up " regardless of what you read in the kids reactions thread lol " and buy all of the toys too. I'm sure GOTG will be a great movie but if you think its going to snuff out TMNT then you've got another thing coming my friends. I promise you. Save this post, cut it, paste it, make a tee shirt, come August TMNT is gonna knock it out of the park bothers and sisters : )

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What part of 31.4 Million in 6 days do people not understand? Its been like what 3 months and the GOTG trailer still hasn't got that many views? This movie has garnered WAY more interest than GOTG.. that's for sure. The entire internet has been on fire for this movie for YEARS now lol. not months, years. Now before one of you dives at your keyboard to write " Half of it is negative " know this my friends.. I guarantee you that most people ragging on this movie will have their as**s planted firmly in those seats when the movie comes out. Im sure they are still working on the CGI and there will be a third trailer. As for the first 2 trailers.. they've succeeded in what they were designed to do, create controversy and hype. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They KNOW that these new turtles are freaky hence the Mikey Joke. Every Geek site, every blog, every forum for entertainment, social media.. it was everywhere, everyone was talking about it and haven't stopped since. Unlike any other movie being made this one has had an unrelenting build up with emotions boiling over fans at each others throats " will it bomb, will it succeed, will it be better than the original, will we have Saki, who is Aprils father, will we see other mutants, will Liebesman pull it off, will Fox pull it off, will the turtles have enough screen time, will Splinter be Yoshi or Yoshi's pet rat, is Sachs an Utrom, will the turtles origin be an accident, did Sachs/Shredder create the turtles, will we see "Raid" style fight sequences" will the Foot actually fight like ninjas, will the film be violent having the Nick label attached, What will Knoxville sound like... NEVER has there EVER been SO MUCH hype for a movie " that I can remember" like this one. Whether people come off as hating this or not they are asking these questions daily and in doing so have invested so much time, energy and emotion in this film that I cannot see them not going to see this just to have ALL of these questions answered, if not out of pure curiosity alone. Then you add all of the kids that will most likely eat it up " regardless of what you read in the kids reactions thread lol " and buy all of the toys too. I'm sure GOTG will be a great movie but if you think its going to snuff out TMNT then you've got another thing coming my friends. I promise you. Save this post, cut it, paste it, make a tee shirt, come August TMNT is gonna knock it out of the park bothers and sisters : )
Don't count on it. All of the box office gurus are pointing at GOTG to be king of August. The fact that it's still getting interest and positive feedback on one little teaser is even more compelling.
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Old 05-04-2014, 11:15 AM   #473
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Don't count on it. All of the box office gurus are pointing at GOTG to be king of August. The fact that it's still getting interest and positive feedback on one little teaser is even more compelling.
I've also seen Guardians' trailer on the very very little television I watch, it was with Captain America: The Winter Soldier, it premiered on Jimmy Kimmel, it was on Amazing Spider-Man 2, it has brief character trailers online for each of them.

Essentially, there's more for people to see, more they're exposed to with Guardians.

TMNT, on the other hand, has one teaser that shows next to nothing and leaves more questions than hooks to draw you in (and an extended version of the same teaser). With absolutely nothing else, and less exposure, people who want to check it out only have one recourse...to watch it over and over online.

But, where's 31 million views in 3 days coming from?

TMNT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRip...wMgTBlQ_T6zaMA
3,409,581 Views

Guardians of the Galaxy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZ2Tp9yXyM
16,021,206 Views, not including those who saw it on TV when it premiered
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Old 05-04-2014, 11:55 AM   #474
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Having recently finished Lego Marvel Super Heroes, I find it interesting that they actually had the foresight to make the GOTG team playable characters, so long before the movie or actual sets would release. The minifigs more closely resemble the comic book counterparts than the film versions, but considering how faithful the film's designs are, that's not changing. A whole lot.
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Don't count on it. All of the box office gurus are pointing at GOTG to be king of August. The fact that it's still getting interest and positive feedback on one little teaser is even more compelling.
I will bet my posting privileges on this forum that TMNT Rocks August. How do you want to do this? a month from its release right? And if I lose, I will never post here again. May not be a big deal for you but I like posting here lol. If I win... Youuuu have to declare here that you think Jonathan Liebesman is the best Film maker everrrr lol. ok? : ) A little bet between Warhorse and Puddin to make things even more interesting.
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I've also seen Guardians' trailer on the very very little television I watch, it was with Captain America: The Winter Soldier, it premiered on Jimmy Kimmel, it was on Amazing Spider-Man 2, it has brief character trailers online for each of them.

Essentially, there's more for people to see, more they're exposed to with Guardians.

TMNT, on the other hand, has one teaser that shows next to nothing and leaves more questions than hooks to draw you in (and an extended version of the same teaser). With absolutely nothing else, and less exposure, people who want to check it out only have one recourse...to watch it over and over online.

But, where's 31 million views in 3 days coming from?

TMNT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRip...wMgTBlQ_T6zaMA
3,409,581 Views

Guardians of the Galaxy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZ2Tp9yXyM
16,021,206 Views, not including those who saw it on TV when it premiered
That's bc your looking at the wrong channel. Its CBM trailers. And I said 31.4 million in 6 days not 3. It had around 21 million in its first 3 days, which I think is still more than what GOTG has now after three months. Please correct me if I am wrong though

http://youtu.be/nCjsWpM9zFU

Ill cut and paste the article from IMDb

Trailer Report: 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' Roars to 31.4 ...



www.imdb.com/news/ni57022556/‎

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I will bet my posting privileges on this forum that TMNT Rocks August. How do you want to do this? a month from its release right? And if I lose, I will never post here again. May not be a big deal for you but I like posting here lol. If I win... Youuuu have to declare here that you think Jonathan Liebesman is the best Film maker everrrr lol. ok? : ) A little bet between Warhorse and Puddin to make things even more interesting.
OK. Let's get specifics while we're at it.

GOTG- 170 DOM, 320 OS, 490 WW

TMNT 14 88 DOM, 215 OS, 303 WW
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Gotcha. When you search YouTube for "TMNT Trailer" the CBM one doesn't come up on the first page, just the TMNT posted one. Hence I wasn't sure where it was posted.

Though that makes me think there's a hell of a lot of repeat views and refreshes contributing to that number considering a YouTube search doesn't even bring it up.
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OK. Let's get specifics while we're at it.

GOTG- 170 DOM, 320 OS, 490 WW

TMNT 14 88 DOM, 215 OS, 303 WW
Ok lets see.. TMNT-200 DOM, 300 OS, 500 WW

GOTG- Ill go with your numbers
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Gotcha. When you search YouTube for "TMNT Trailer" the CBM one doesn't come up on the first page, just the TMNT posted one. Hence I wasn't sure where it was posted.

Though that makes me think there's a hell of a lot of repeat views and refreshes contributing to that number considering a YouTube search doesn't even bring it up.

Its all good brotha!
LOL everyone always says that. Im pretty sure it counts by IP address, I tried to up the views one after another and it doesn't seem to work that way. But if it does work.. Why cant people watch the GOTG trailer more than once? If you can view it more than one time and have it count than you can with all trailers, not just TMNT. No matter what people try to take away from that number.. it IS a very impressive number of views in a ridiculously short amount of time.
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I really don’t think GOTG is making close to half a billion. TMNT will probably close out at about 350 worldwide. GOTG could make it to 400 million.
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my opnion i think GOTG will not win Aug i think TMNT will be far i dont even think TF4 will even get big :/ i am sure some of you will not agree but thats what a forum is for
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