Episode Discussion S2 #16 "The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman"

[Vicky82]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/05/0...tockman-review

Wow IGN only gave it 8.0

I'm surprised by this, should of been 8.5 or higher.

[Asha]

Funny April mutation fake out was funny considering people were talking about her similarities to Venus over a week ago.

Since April was the key to stabilizing the mutagen ( why that try to harvest her DNA) than what's the mutagen for?

[JTH]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/05/0...tockman-review

Wow IGN only gave it 8.0

I'm surprised by this, should of been 8.5 or higher.

And of course, Max thinks we already knew April was immune to mutagen.

Which was never the case.

Then again you never know, Max also gave Slash & Destroy an 8.0. Max seems a little inconsistent.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by jth

And of course, Max thinks we already knew April was immune to mutagen.

Which was never the case.

How about wheb that acid touched her and didn't hurt her in the slightest.

[Asha]

Donnie probable going to be the new target of other mutants.

[Ninjinister]

I'm still amazed that people continue to care what IGN thinks.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

How about wheb that acid touched her and didn't hurt her in the slightest.

Are you talking about the Kranng water from the episode Karai's Vendetta, that wasn't mutagen so it was different. I think there was discussion the other day wondering if Mutagen would of effect her and today we found out.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

How about wheb that acid touched her and didn't hurt her in the slightest.

That's the thing.

We know about that, but people keep thinking that was mutagen for some reason.

Which I don't understand, that scene in that episode doesn't seem very hard to forget.

[tmntmikey23]

cool episode i like how Baxter is a fly and he is more tougher and cant wait for a figure for him i not a fan of how Donnie likes April to much. i was fine with it when the show started but now i feel like he cares more about her then he's family i no he offered splinter to become a human first but how i seemed it i feel he cared more about kirby and April

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by jth

And of course, Max thinks we already knew April was immune to mutagen.

Which was never the case.

Then again you never know, Max also gave Slash & Destroy an 8.0. Max seems a little inconsistent.

I Saw this on the IGN comments

TMNTFAN88 • an hour ago
@maxnicholson -- April never touched mutagen in season 1! It was Kraang water, which was like acid... remember? It melted stuff, not mutated stuff! And a few points less for little fighting? C'mon there was SO MUCH ACTION! this was one of the best eps of season 2!

MaxNicholson > TMNTFAN88 • 5 minutes ago
Right, but her Kraang DNA, which we learned about earlier this season, basically confirmed her immunity to mutagen (that in combination with the Kraang water, which DID contain trace amounts of Kraang chemicals). Just because nobody said it out loud doesn't mean that we can't draw the logical conclusion.


JTH1 > MaxNicholson • a minute ago
No it doesn't.
It confirms she was a key to possibly creating a retro-mutagen, but still nothing more.
Donnie needing an entire vile of retro-mutagen for one does logically would mean that one drop of it wouldn't cure Mr. O'Neil right?
People using logic, is often how you get the swerve job pulled on you.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Baxter was probably the first one mutated on purpose.

*cough* Timothy *cough*

[JTH]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I Saw this on the IGN comments

TMNTFAN88 • an hour ago
@maxnicholson -- April never touched mutagen in season 1! It was Kraang water, which was like acid... remember? It melted stuff, not mutated stuff! And a few points less for little fighting? C'mon there was SO MUCH ACTION! this was one of the best eps of season 2!

MaxNicholson > TMNTFAN88 • 5 minutes ago
Right, but her Kraang DNA, which we learned about earlier this season, basically confirmed her immunity to mutagen (that in combination with the Kraang water, which DID contain trace amounts of Kraang chemicals). Just because nobody said it out loud doesn't mean that we can't draw the logical conclusion.


JTH1 > MaxNicholson • a minute ago
No it doesn't.
It confirms she was a key to possibly creating a retro-mutagen, but still nothing more.
Donnie needing an entire vile of retro-mutagen for one does logically would mean that one drop of it wouldn't cure Mr. O'Neil right?
People using logic, is often how you get the swerve job pulled on you.

Well, I was going to promote myself, but you did me just fine.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by jth

Well, I was going to promote myself, but you did me just fine.

Oops! didn't notice that was you .

[Chaotix12345]

Great episode. Baxter Fly is fittingly grotesque and I loved the nod to Ace Duck (Cameoing like a boss as usual. XD) and foreshadowing to Bebop and Rocksteady. Glad to see Kirby back to normal as well. Kinda figured that at least he would, as otherwise, finishing the retromutagen in this ep would've been kinda pointless. Looking forward to seeing what mutant Shredder's referring to at the end.

Also, since Tur-Fly-Tle seems to be a recurring super identity, is anyone else itching for fanart of him, Turtle Titan, Nightwatcher, and Dark Turtle together?

[JTH]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I Saw this on the IGN comments

TMNTFAN88 • an hour ago
@maxnicholson -- April never touched mutagen in season 1! It was Kraang water, which was like acid... remember? It melted stuff, not mutated stuff! And a few points less for little fighting? C'mon there was SO MUCH ACTION! this was one of the best eps of season 2!

MaxNicholson > TMNTFAN88 • 5 minutes ago
Right, but her Kraang DNA, which we learned about earlier this season, basically confirmed her immunity to mutagen (that in combination with the Kraang water, which DID contain trace amounts of Kraang chemicals). Just because nobody said it out loud doesn't mean that we can't draw the logical conclusion.


JTH1 > MaxNicholson • a minute ago
No it doesn't.
It confirms she was a key to possibly creating a retro-mutagen, but still nothing more.
Donnie needing an entire vile of retro-mutagen for one does logically would mean that one drop of it wouldn't cure Mr. O'Neil right?
People using logic, is often how you get the swerve job pulled on you.

I'll add on to it:

JTH1 > MaxNicholson • 15 minutes ago
No it doesn't.

It confirms she was a key to possibly creating a retro-mutagen, but still nothing more.

Donnie needing an entire vile of retro-mutagen for one dose logically would mean that one drop of it wouldn't cure Mr. O'Neil right?

People using logic, is often how you get the swerve job pulled on you.


Geordi_La_Forgery > JTH1 • 7 minutes ago
The vile was probably Donnie's best estimation of how much retromutagen it would take to cure Mr. O'Neil.


MaxNicholson > JTH1 • 11 minutes ago
That's different from compiling almost two seasons' worth of evidence and applying reason to it.


JTH1 > MaxNicholson • 5 minutes ago
Perhaps.

But we can also use the same two seasons of evidence to predict what will happen with Karai.

But I still don't think anyone can make a pinpoint prediction of what will happen, despite obvious assumptions.

I just always keep in mind for myself is guilty of this. "The easiest people to trick are the people that think they know what's coming."


MaxNicholson > JTH1 • 2 minutes ago
True enough and well said. Luckily, my obvious assumption was correct. Thus, for me, this scene didn't call for such gravitas.

[Krang100]

In the begining of the episode, is really cool to see Ace Duck, it was funny the way Ace Duck was showed. I feel bad for Baxter Fly, the character turned a lot more dark when he turned into a fly, he is no longer a comic relief character, the only funny is when he crashed with the sign.

Is too bad that Stockman is dragged into Shredder's lair and now call him "master" (like his 87's, 2003's counterpart), this time Stockman is a lot more animalistic, a least as a human can think with clarity. The episode shows he has no chance to turned against Shredder and his minions, and worse, not even to get away to sever with him, a least his counterpart has a chance to rid of him. This Baxter turned from bad to worse.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by Krang100

In the begining of the episode, is really cool to see Ace Duck, it was funny the way Ace Duck was showed. I feel bad for Baxter Fly, the character turned a lot more dark when he turned into a fly, he is no longer a comic relief character, the only funny is when he crashed with the sign.

Is too bad that Stockman is dragged into Shredder's lair and now call him "master" (like his 87's, 2003's counterpart), this time Stockman is a lot more animalistic, a least as a human can think with clarity. The episode shows he has no chance to turned against Shredder and his minions, and worse, not even to get away to sever with him, a least his counterpart has a chance to rid of him. This Baxter turned from bad to worse.

Baxter is always treated like crap by the Foot in every incarnation and I feel sorry for him. I hope he turns back to normal. In every series, he always stays the way he is and I hope this is an exception. The episode title just shows how Baxter is now.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Asha

Donnie probable going to be the new target of other mutants.

Maybe that how we'll get to meet Mona Lisa and the others instead of going through a origin story episode for each one.

[BabyTurtles]

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

Spoiler:

her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

[JTH]

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