Episode Discussion S2 #16 "The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman" - Page 5

The Turtle Terminator · 05-04-2014, 05:08 PM

Great episode. Finally an excuse for an updated and/or discontinued Kirby Bat. Welcome back Kirby

*Vicky82* · 05-04-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

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her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

Yeah I noticed that, pretty disturbing how she was tied up.

*BubblyShell22* · 05-04-2014, 05:10 PM

This episode was all kinds of awesome! Cameo of Ace Duck, foreshadowing of Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter's mutation was sick, too. I also liked how Kirby got cured, and I really hope this is the end of torturing Kirby. Come on, the guy's had enough already! No more for him! Torture someone else if you have to! Loved the chase scene for the RM. I'm also surprised they didn't mention Timothy, but I think they were more concerned with getting Kirby back. I'm sure they won't forget him. Also glad to see that though Splinter longs to be human, he realizes that his family is more important and that he needs to stay with the Turtles. That was so cool. Also curious about this other mutant, too. Who is it?

Overall, a pretty wicked ep. Can't wait for next week for sure.

*TigerClaw* · 05-04-2014, 05:22 PM

Finally saw this episode, Thought it was pretty good.

Spoiler:

I liked how Donnie looks at Casey Jones, rubbing in his face, That he got kissed by April, twice in 1 day.

*AT-Man* · 05-04-2014, 05:37 PM

It took just one drop of the retro mutagen to change Kirby, after all. So they could have changed hundreds of mutants with the two vials. I hoped first that only Kirby's head got changed and the rest of him stayed bat, but no dice. Otherwise pretty good episode.

btw why is there no poll?

Lightjump · 05-04-2014, 05:43 PM

I like how many tiny actual fly things there were, like the multiple images in his eyes and the throwing up acid on his food to digest it. It was a fun ep. with great little nods from the old show and some new stuff. But, are the Kraang immune to the mutagen, because April is and that's just confusing if they aren't. But I really did like Stockman, though apparently Rahzar can hear through walls now

Retro-Specs · 05-04-2014, 05:52 PM

Amazing ep, and I love what they did with Baxter. His movements and inflections were great, and could make him a fun character to work with.

Now I'm super-curious - just who is Shredder intending to mutate, and into what? Must be a character we know already. He could be referring to himself, but I have the feeling this Shredder would not take such a risk, and is confident enough in his own abilities than to change himself. Personally I think it'll be Karai, since he's seeing that she hasn't been very loyal lately. He'd likely think that she'd be more useful and more obedient as a mutant. So he can control her better, being half animal, like a dog or cat to hunt down a rat.

Or he could be using one of the Purple Dragons or something... but who could could he be mutating them into? Could we be seeing another character from the past coming back?

Sewer Sirens Podcast · 05-04-2014, 05:58 PM

Thought it was interesting, when Donnie only had two current vials of retro mutagen, they were automatically assigned to Kirby and Splinter (who hasn't really be complaining about his appearance and seems used to being a rat), instead of Timothy, who Don has been working on forever and feels somewhat responsible for.

Overall, good episode, better than last weeks. I'll post all my thoughts later.

Rukitron · 05-04-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro-Specs

Personally I think it'll be Karai, since he's seeing that she hasn't been very loyal lately. He'd likely think that she'd be more useful and more obedient as a mutant. So he can control her better, being half animal, like a dog or cat to hunt down a rat.

Or he could be using one of the Purple Dragons or something... but who could could he be mutating them into? Could we be seeing another character from the past coming back?

Cat- he has Tigerclaw
Dog - he has Dogpound
Fish - he has Fishface
therefore rule of pet shop wackiness she'll be mutated as some sort of predatory bird or a canary since Splinter is the mouse/rat.

The Sports Warrior · 05-04-2014, 06:45 PM

For me, this whole episode was all about Ace Duck.

*Metalwolf* · 05-04-2014, 07:01 PM

Great episode! I easily give this one a 10/10

Love how Bradford (as someone mentioned earlier) was in full on lieutenant mode and how determined he was to get that retromutagen. It really made him look badass, plus it showed that even though he has a powerful second mutation, he still wants to be human again. And I laughed when Baxter was about to say to Bradford "But you're now twice the do- I mean man, then you used to be!" Oh Baxter, you crack me up, you were about to call him 'dog' to his face, weren't you

And BaxterFly. Woah. He is awesome and scary and he can hold his own if he has to. Gosh, this version is the best of them all. Seriously.

I just loved everything about this episode. Everything.

@Blindturtle02-

I'm wondering too if Bradford's still nerfed. To me he looked much more assertive and dangerous in this episode, and looked very much like he was acting a lot more high ranking then submissive, especially with him walking around with Shredder like that. I'm guessing with Tigerclaw missing and Karai demoted he is the acting second in command, although I wonder how he'll act once Tigerclaw returns.

I'm strongly betting the 'One more mutant' is Bebop and Rocksteady, but he doesn't want to say 'Two mutants" for some reason. I'm wondering if that is because he wants to keep it a secret?

Klunk1234 · 05-04-2014, 07:11 PM

That was a great episode, but it was getting on to my nerves when the boys were trying to recover the retro mutagen from Baxter Stockman, the robot foot soldier and Rahazar( formely known as Dogpound and Bradford). At last, Mr. O'Neil got cured. Donnie can do the same with the Pulverizer since he promise to cure him and Dr. Rockwell.

I want to see more action from the Shredder, instead of him depending on the mutants villains. Baxter Stockman's mutation is gross and Donnie hiding into his shell gave me nervous. The 2003 turtles never do that since they are mutated. Mikey was annoying in this episode in my opinion.

*blindturtle02* · 05-04-2014, 07:17 PM

Yeah, Metalwolf I'm hoping it's Bebop and Rocksteady as well. Really wanting Karai to stay human. If they do introduce Mona Lisa, I hope it's April's mom somewhere down the road. Still hoping she's voiced by Pat Musick, but the odds of that happening are approximately 725,000 to 1! Well, it's Star Wars day, so I had to throw an Empire reference in there.

Klunk, been wanting to see more Shredder action as well. Although it's even more amazing when he decides to get his hands dirty.

*Warhorse* · 05-04-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

Spoiler:

her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

Didn't see the episode, but those screen caps, yeah, that is a little bit out of place for a kid's show. What were the animators thinking? This is just about as bad when in the OT, April was tied up, and I can't remember what Turtle it was, but when he removed the ropes from her chest, her boobs literally bust out and flop for a second.

*pannoni1* · 05-04-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Klunk1234

That was a great episode, but it was getting on to my nerves when the boys were trying to recover the retro mutagen from Baxter Stockman, the robot foot soldier and Rahazar( formely known as Dogpound and Bradford).

I disagree. That was the climax of the whole episode since you never know what was going to happen. Would Baxter return to normal? Would Rahzar become Chris Bradford? Would the mutagen all go to waste? Would the Turtles use some for Splinter yet forget to change Kirby back? This turned out to have a similar message to Shreddered & Splintered, though explained more clearly that Splinter doesn't have a purpose to be Hamato Yoshi again as long as he has the Turtles.

This episode was one of the best the series has to offer. Yes, we don't get as graphic of a Baxter mutation as we did in the OT, but to have it happen so quickly early in the episode and in a more creepy matter along with Shredder instead of Kra(a)ng executing it gives it a different perspective. In addition to resolving Kirby's mutation, we get a classic April DID moment that not only involves flying away, getting tied up, and being lowered into a mutagen vat which all happened in the OT, but actually have April fall into the pit. During that second commercial break many were all wondering that April would turn into that ugly Derp thingy that I hate. But then understanding you can't retromutate somebody that is already human, it turned out fine if you knew the back story. The flying action scenes were well presented, and I especially liked the flying Foot Soldiers. And thanks Raph for pointing out that Mikey's "Buzz Buzz" is annoying. Leo didn't get as much spotlight as the other three, but that's typical for being the straight guy. On the side, good hit by Casey after Don gets excited about being kissed twice to add to the relationship drama. And I sure wonder what that final mutant Baxter will create.

Overall: 9/10

Donny's computer84 · 05-04-2014, 07:27 PM

This was a cool episode, I'd like to see Donny turn ice cream kitty back to normal so he can be Klunk.

*TurtleTitan97* · 05-04-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Did anyone else feel a little uncomfortable by how April was tied up??.....

Spoiler:

her butt was in the screens face a couple of times....a little awkward....

Whoa, dat April...

*victory_angel* · 05-04-2014, 07:48 PM

Here's my Initial thoughts on the episode http://tmntreviews.blogspot.com/2014...tation-of.html

*Electric* · 05-04-2014, 07:59 PM

Loved this episode. Right up there with target April o Neil.

Probably my favorite thing was the new fight music, just incredible.

Good April fight scenes, good Casey scenes (starting to show his lack of intelligence, but also his Brutish nature) and retro mutagen!

cryan · 05-04-2014, 08:06 PM

Caught the last part of the episode. Very cool. I like how Baxter still had his personality even when mutated. The fact they cured Mr. O' Neil was also great.

05-04-2014, 05:08 PM	#81
The Turtle Terminator Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,110	Great episode. Finally an excuse for an updated and/or discontinued Kirby Bat. Welcome back Kirby __________________

05-04-2014, 05:10 PM	#83
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	This episode was all kinds of awesome! Cameo of Ace Duck, foreshadowing of Bebop and Rocksteady, Baxter's mutation was sick, too. I also liked how Kirby got cured, and I really hope this is the end of torturing Kirby. Come on, the guy's had enough already! No more for him! Torture someone else if you have to! Loved the chase scene for the RM. I'm also surprised they didn't mention Timothy, but I think they were more concerned with getting Kirby back. I'm sure they won't forget him. Also glad to see that though Splinter longs to be human, he realizes that his family is more important and that he needs to stay with the Turtles. That was so cool. Also curious about this other mutant, too. Who is it? Overall, a pretty wicked ep. Can't wait for next week for sure. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

05-04-2014, 05:22 PM	#84
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,165	Finally saw this episode, Thought it was pretty good. Spoiler: So April can't be mutated cause shes half human half Kraang. I liked how Donnie looks at Casey Jones, rubbing in his face, That he got kissed by April, twice in 1 day. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305

05-04-2014, 05:37 PM	#85
AT-Man I SEEN IT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: FIN Posts: 2,206	It took just one drop of the retro mutagen to change Kirby, after all. So they could have changed hundreds of mutants with the two vials. I hoped first that only Kirby's head got changed and the rest of him stayed bat, but no dice. Otherwise pretty good episode. btw why is there no poll? __________________ Through the Golden Door

05-04-2014, 05:43 PM	#86
Lightjump Thug Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 85	I like how many tiny actual fly things there were, like the multiple images in his eyes and the throwing up acid on his food to digest it. It was a fun ep. with great little nods from the old show and some new stuff. But, are the Kraang immune to the mutagen, because April is and that's just confusing if they aren't. But I really did like Stockman, though apparently Rahzar can hear through walls now __________________ "I know not what I do, I say what I know, and I care for none"

05-04-2014, 05:52 PM	#87
Retro-Specs Thug Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 81	Amazing ep, and I love what they did with Baxter. His movements and inflections were great, and could make him a fun character to work with. Now I'm super-curious - just who is Shredder intending to mutate, and into what? Must be a character we know already. He could be referring to himself, but I have the feeling this Shredder would not take such a risk, and is confident enough in his own abilities than to change himself. Personally I think it'll be Karai, since he's seeing that she hasn't been very loyal lately. He'd likely think that she'd be more useful and more obedient as a mutant. So he can control her better, being half animal, like a dog or cat to hunt down a rat. Or he could be using one of the Purple Dragons or something... but who could could he be mutating them into? Could we be seeing another character from the past coming back? __________________ My DeviantART: Retro-Specs

05-04-2014, 05:58 PM	#88
Sewer Sirens Podcast Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: America Posts: 425	Thought it was interesting, when Donnie only had two current vials of retro mutagen, they were automatically assigned to Kirby and Splinter (who hasn't really be complaining about his appearance and seems used to being a rat), instead of Timothy, who Don has been working on forever and feels somewhat responsible for. Overall, good episode, better than last weeks. I'll post all my thoughts later. __________________ Grady Sewer Sirens Podcast [email protected] Check us out on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...725309366?mt=2 Follow us on Twitter: @SewerSirens https://twitter.com/sewersirens Here's our site: http://www.podomatic.com/profile/sewersirenspodcast Here's our blog: http://sewersirens.blogspot.com

05-04-2014, 06:45 PM	#90
The Sports Warrior Thug Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 89	For me, this whole episode was all about Ace Duck.

05-04-2014, 07:01 PM	#91
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	Great episode! I easily give this one a 10/10 Love how Bradford (as someone mentioned earlier) was in full on lieutenant mode and how determined he was to get that retromutagen. It really made him look badass, plus it showed that even though he has a powerful second mutation, he still wants to be human again. And I laughed when Baxter was about to say to Bradford "But you're now twice the do- I mean man, then you used to be!" Oh Baxter, you crack me up, you were about to call him 'dog' to his face, weren't you And BaxterFly. Woah. He is awesome and scary and he can hold his own if he has to. Gosh, this version is the best of them all. Seriously. I just loved everything about this episode. Everything. @Blindturtle02- I'm wondering too if Bradford's still nerfed. To me he looked much more assertive and dangerous in this episode, and looked very much like he was acting a lot more high ranking then submissive, especially with him walking around with Shredder like that. I'm guessing with Tigerclaw missing and Karai demoted he is the acting second in command, although I wonder how he'll act once Tigerclaw returns. I'm strongly betting the 'One more mutant' is Bebop and Rocksteady, but he doesn't want to say 'Two mutants" for some reason. I'm wondering if that is because he wants to keep it a secret?

05-04-2014, 07:11 PM	#92
Klunk1234 Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: With the TMNT Posts: 462	That was a great episode, but it was getting on to my nerves when the boys were trying to recover the retro mutagen from Baxter Stockman, the robot foot soldier and Rahazar( formely known as Dogpound and Bradford). At last, Mr. O'Neil got cured. Donnie can do the same with the Pulverizer since he promise to cure him and Dr. Rockwell. I want to see more action from the Shredder, instead of him depending on the mutants villains. Baxter Stockman's mutation is gross and Donnie hiding into his shell gave me nervous. The 2003 turtles never do that since they are mutated. Mikey was annoying in this episode in my opinion.

05-04-2014, 07:17 PM	#93
blindturtle02 Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tx Posts: 2,627	Yeah, Metalwolf I'm hoping it's Bebop and Rocksteady as well. Really wanting Karai to stay human. If they do introduce Mona Lisa, I hope it's April's mom somewhere down the road. Still hoping she's voiced by Pat Musick, but the odds of that happening are approximately 725,000 to 1! Well, it's Star Wars day, so I had to throw an Empire reference in there. Klunk, been wanting to see more Shredder action as well. Although it's even more amazing when he decides to get his hands dirty. __________________ Please don't remove my nice hat and wack me in the butt with it.

05-04-2014, 07:27 PM	#96
Donny's computer84 Thug Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Turtle's Lair Posts: 71	This was a cool episode, I'd like to see Donny turn ice cream kitty back to normal so he can be Klunk.

05-04-2014, 07:48 PM	#98
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Here's my Initial thoughts on the episode http://tmntreviews.blogspot.com/2014...tation-of.html __________________

05-04-2014, 07:59 PM	#99
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	Loved this episode. Right up there with target April o Neil. Probably my favorite thing was the new fight music, just incredible. Good April fight scenes, good Casey scenes (starting to show his lack of intelligence, but also his Brutish nature) and retro mutagen! __________________ Last edited by Electric; 05-04-2014 at 08:52 PM.

05-04-2014, 08:06 PM	#100
cryan Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens,AL Posts: 743	Caught the last part of the episode. Very cool. I like how Baxter still had his personality even when mutated. The fact they cured Mr. O' Neil was also great.