The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[UGHShellshocked]

Haven't seen a long enough trailer yet to judge their martial arts skills which is pretty sad. I wish they'd take from the Dredd book and see that little to no proper trailers is a bad thing.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

Haven't seen a long enough trailer yet to judge their martial arts skills which is pretty sad. I wish they'd take from the Dredd book and see that little to no proper trailers is a bad thing.

because the trailer recently released, is being billed as the first trailer, just prepared for 3D viewing, I was really hoping that a proper 2nd trailer was forthcoming in light of the 30th Anniversary.

unfortunately nothing.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The Mirage one is not a hybridization at all. More like a hyper-evolutionary process.

While that is the simplest and most likely explanation I don't think it's ever been stated in the Mirage books.

While the TCRI waste is likely a bi-product of their transmat experiment (the 4Kids series went with that) I don't think it's out of the question it could be from making the "skins" for the exo-skeletons in which case there might be something resembling human DNA in the ooze.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

Businessman have always been a part of Hollywood. It's always been about making money and capitalizing on what's popular, and there have always been lame-brain head-figures unintentionally finding silly ways to destroy movies. The Salkinds were a good example of that.

At some point, the film industry had monopolies, controlling everything including the venues. That stopped, and not too long after, a lot of the studios were absorbed into other corporations. Warner Bros., Time, and Turner Broadcasting all came together to be Time Warner. Sony acquired Columbia Pictures and Tristar Pictures. Universal Pictures was taken over by MCA Records in the 1950s and is currently owned by Comcast. So basically most of the major studios were absorbed by other conglomerates, except Disney, which pretty much became its own conglomerate.

And now more than ever, the film industry has been about brand recognition. It's not as much about creating new brands (but that does happen) as it is reinforcing existing ones, like comic books, bestsellers, toylines, and, of course, movies and long-gone, but still remembered franchises.

But, while the business models might have changed over the decades, the thing that remains the same is the reception. Just as many movies are disliked as there movies that are admired as always has been. For every thing they've gotten right, there's been just as many if not more they've gotten wrong. For every Batman (1989), there's been a Super Mario Bros. (1993).

Sadly, this new Ninja Turtles appears to be on wrong side of that spectrum. But, if history tells us anything, this won't be the end of TMNT in Hollywood. If this film is the likely turd it is, eventually there will a genuine Ninja Turtles film that will blow our minds, just like the original film did 24 years ago.

Great post, and I whole heartedly agree. I know I won't be holding my breath for a mind blowing TMNT film, but I can't wait until it happens.

[electric_sheep]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=99486
Here it is guys a long awaited first look at Splinter and as you can see he isa rat no more, he is a goat now. And shredder, what have they done to you? You look like a power rangers villain...

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Welp.. The new designs look more turtlish than the old designs with the nostriless frog beaks imo. The old shape of their heads were more frogish. Turtles have nostrils and noses/snouts like what you see in the new design. Just look at the picture in your signature of that turtles nose and tell me which design resembles it better. Their eyes were extremely cartoony looking where as these new designs have more realistic looking eyes. They look freaky bc they look realistic.

Really? not to put too fine a point on it, but please, YOU look at the image in my sig, and tell me that the new characters resemble the turtle.
it does not, in anyway. They look like a mix of shrek and caeser in POTA.

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

When you say " Not that" not ever" Does that imply that you've seen one? Or does it imply that its not your cup of tea?

How droll! Please. Using that argument, they could be giant bananas.

"Well, you've never seen a mutant turtle, so maybe they would be huge, yellow, and delicious!"
pfff.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

YOU look at the image in my sig, and tell me that the new characters resemble the turtle.

No Ninja Turtle ever has looked like that turtle because...that's a regular turtle.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=99486
Here it is guys a long awaited first look at Splinter and as you can see he isa rat no more, he is a goat now. And shredder, what have they done to you? You look like a power rangers villain...

Lol They're toys dude. We all know that he doesn't look like Shao Kahn in the movie.. and how does Splinter not look like a rat? He looks more like a rat than ever, a Japanese rat at that : )

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Unless he have with his legal team pulled completely out and they have to re-do the motion capture as well, although IMDB isn't exactly completely trustworthy on movies that isn't finished.

i honestly wonder what the original actors, having done both the original mo-cap and VO, must be thinking. you give yourself to a performance, only to have a major part of it be replaced by another person. its like youre a glorified stand-in...nobody sees your face, because of the cg, nobody hears your voice because its been replaced, and they can't even appreciate you body movement, because the action is handled by the stuntmen. the rest of the performance is negligible, and forgettable - sad.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Cure

No Ninja Turtle ever has looked like that turtle because...that's a regular turtle.

Except the very first sketches! Those were practically regular turtles just put upright on two legs.

They do look a lot like bald green Caesars to me though.
"Get your stinkin' paws off me, you damn, dirty turtle!"

[xChri5x]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Really? not to put too fine a point on it,

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by xChri5x

http://theathleticnerd.com/wp-conten...rasic-Park.jpg

"That's what your father and I were trying to do, Ms. O'Neil. Create heroes......we spared no expense."

One thing that popped into my head a bit ago. This whole line about Sachs and Mr. O'Neil creating heroes.....what if it's nowhere in the film? Like at all. What if that entire plot isn't even part of the movie?

Think that's crazy? Let's have a look at this real quick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Go ahead and skip to 52 second mark.

Oscorp had Peter under surveillance, a plot point I believe is in every trailer for ASM3, yet there's no mention of it whatsoever in the final cut. There's also the edited cut in the trailer of Harry asking his father about Peter, to which Norman replies "not everyone has a happy ending" which would imply Norman had plans for Peter (also goes back to the surveillance angle). Yet none of this is in the movie.

Just a random thought for speculation, but what if they're using completely unused scrap for the TMNT trailer?

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

All the aesthetics for this film so far have been excellent. Shredder is BA, and Splinter looks so cute. With his fu-manchu style. Twirling kantanas like a MFing BOSS. Gawd I can't wait for this film. Who cares about casting? They just needed the midget for the physical acting for Splinter.

if thats seriously all they wanted him for, his size, they could have hired anybody that size - i dont know what line of work you do, but Danny Woodburn got shafted. big time.

[Commenter 42]

*ahem.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

"That's what your father and I were trying to do, Ms. O'Neil. Create heroes......we spared no expense."

One thing that popped into my head a bit ago. This whole line about Sachs and Mr. O'Neil creating heroes.....what if it's nowhere in the film? Like at all. What if that entire plot isn't even part of the movie?

Think that's crazy? Let's have a look at this real quick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

Go ahead and skip to 52 second mark.

Oscorp had Peter under surveillance, a plot point I believe is in every trailer for ASM3, yet there's no mention of it whatsoever in the final cut. There's also the edited cut in the trailer of Harry asking his father about Peter, to which Norman replies "not everyone has a happy ending" which would imply Norman had plans for Peter (also goes back to the surveillance angle). Yet none of this is in the movie.

Just a random thought for speculation, but what if they're using completely unused scrap for the TMNT trailer?

i would NOT be surprised if this was the case - its like they purposefully go out of their to way skew lines/scenes just for the sake of making an engaging trailer, but it doesn't actually do its job of teasing the story. great point about ASM2.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

I'm in sales. People get the shaft all the time, it's apart of business. The voice actor they got to replace him is vastly superior. Why is ANY TMNT fan disappointed, or offended by this upgrade? Danny Woodburn is lucky he has a niche to even be in a major motion picture like this ... it's not like people are beating down his door with the need for midgets on screen.

Woodburn got shafted it has nothing to do with fan whining or us "haters"


he did years worth of work and was replaced in less than a month after the first trailer..all the work now thrown in the trash

us voice actors only have our voices..to be replaced underhandedly pretty much means we are worthless

and honestly dude your prejudice is unneeded the mans size does not determine who he is....on his own the guy is a great person and an amazing person

[Jester]

If they just needed a little person, then why cast a well-known actor like Woodburn in the first place. There are tons of other unknown actors of small stature that could have been cast. It's like casting Megan Fox but over dubbing her with Anna Kendrick.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

if thats seriously all they wanted him for, his size, they could have hired anybody that size - i dont know what line of work you do, but Danny Woodburn got shafted. big time.

They all knew it was a possibility though. Yea it sucks but it was written right there in plain English, and they still signed on that dotted line. If the studio didn't think their voices matched their characters than they had to do what they had to do. The movie shouldn't take a hit just bc they don't want to hurt someone's feelings. Its unfortunate but its also business.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

They all knew it was a possibility though. Yea it sucks but it was written right there in plain English, and they still signed on that dotted line. If the studio didn't think their voices matched their characters than they had to do what they had to do. The movie shouldn't take a hit just bc they don't want to hurt someone's feelings. Its unfortunate but its also business.

Is the contract floating around? I'd love to see that.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

they didnt know,

Pretty sure woodburn said it himself on his twitter

and if they knew He wouldn't have brought his legal team in because he would be breaching contract