The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by tmntmikey23

well i would not trust him and sam is not being negative he giving his opinion

No way, he's totally suggesting we can't trust Mr. Sachs. What has Mr. Sachs done to make him say that? That's libel!

(I really need a special sarcasm/joke tag for my posts sometimes. I was just joking towards Sam as if he was being negative towards Sachs as a real person and this "Shredder" was a conspiracy theory used to slander the man)

There's a double joke in there too because Sam is probably the most positive person I've seen in regards to this movie, so suggesting he's being negative is nonsensical in its own right.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

No way, he's totally suggesting we can't trust Mr. Sachs. What has Mr. Sachs done to make him say that? That's libel!

His arrival did coincide with Oroku Saki's disappearance... that's pretty suspicious if you ask me.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Bry

I wouldn't say it's that people are clamoring for Woodburn to play the character so much as they're recognizing how poorly he was treated over this. The fact that he had to find out about the recasting secondhand via a press release and social media is pretty rotten.

kind of makes it look like they weren't even planning to tell him which doesn't seem to classy even if it was stated in the contract that he wasn't guaranteed a vocal performance.

[Candy Kappa]

He probably didn't see it coming since he did voice acting work for the tie-in video game as well.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Bry

His arrival did coincide with Oroku Saki's disappearance... that's pretty suspicious if you ask me.

very suspicious. almost as if he were trying to replace him

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

No way, he's totally suggesting we can't trust Mr. Sachs. What has Mr. Sachs done to make him say that? That's libel!

(I really need a special sarcasm/joke tag for my posts sometimes. I was just joking towards Sam as if he was being negative towards Sachs as a real person and this "Shredder" was a conspiracy theory used to slander the man)

There's a double joke in there too because Sam is probably the most positive person I've seen in regards to this movie, so suggesting he's being negative is nonsensical in its own right.

Originally Posted by Bry

His arrival did coincide with Oroku Saki's disappearance... that's pretty suspicious if you ask me.

dun dun DDDDDUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[UGHShellshocked]

I think Danny Woodburn is a solid actor but I couldn't picture either him or Shaloub voice acting for Splinter to be honest.

[Candy Kappa]

Given the choice, I'd rather have Danny then Tony. But, both aren't my ideal pick.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

I think Danny Woodburn is a solid actor but I couldn't picture either him or Shaloub voice acting for Splinter to be honest.

Shaolub can work, for an american Splinter, in the traler his voice is cleary american. What i don't get is where does Japanese stuff come from? From what we have seen so far all the Japanese Ties have been cut...

[Candy Kappa]

Splinter, as the pet of Hamato Yoshi doesn't necessarily have to have a Asian accent, he did mutate and learn to speak in New York, not Tokyo.

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Shaolub can work, for an american Splinter, in the traler his voice is cleary american. What i don't get is where does Japanese stuff come from? From what we have seen so far all the Japanese Ties have been cut...

I only can only hear him coming off sounding like Jeebs from Men in Black, the voice in the trailer sounded good to me.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

"But Master Splinter--"
"Fugeddaboutit!"

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Shaolub can work, for an american Splinter, in the traler his voice is cleary american. What i don't get is where does Japanese stuff come from? From what we have seen so far all the Japanese Ties have been cut...

Serioysly Dude?
-the shredder armor
-mural
-all the japanese symbols all over the sets
-Japanese foot symbol on the uniforms
-Traditional Japanese seppuku ceremony
-traditional Gis
-Karai
-Shredders Dojo

Yup no Japanese ties any where to be found

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Serioysly Dude? https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...82272759_o.jpghttps://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...83935924_n.jpg
-the shredder armor
-mural
-all the japanese symbols all over the sets
-Japanese foot symbol on the uniforms
-Traditional Japanese seppuku ceremony
-traditional Gis
-Karai
-Shredders Dojo

Yup no Japanese ties any where to be found

I think hirs question is, where does Splinter get the Japanese ties from, as there is yet any knowing if we have a Yoshi and Saki feud, or a similar feud where Splinter can be influenced with Japanese culture. As of now it's just "lolz, it's Ninja Turtles".

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Serioysly Dude? https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...82272759_o.jpghttps://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...83935924_n.jpg
-the shredder armor
-mural
-all the japanese symbols all over the sets
-Japanese foot symbol on the uniforms
-Traditional Japanese seppuku ceremony
-traditional Gis
-Karai
-Shredders Dojo

Yup no Japanese ties any where to be found

That's just Japanese stuff, there's no real conection there. All the actors are american and all the names are american. Where did you see Shredder's Dojo and someone comiting seppuku?

[Sumac]

All the aesthetics for this film so far have been excellent.

What aesthetics?
All I see is that they've exaggerated everything about designs to the point, where it goes to the uncanny and trashy territories.
Of course, some people can consider it an aesthetic, but...

And why in the world, Shredder looks like Shao Kahn in grey armor?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I think hirs question is, where does Splinter get the Japanese ties from, as there is yet any knowing if we have a Yoshi and Saki feud, or a similar feud where Splinter can be influenced with Japanese culture. As of now it's just "lolz, it's Ninja Turtles".

do they tell you about the feud in the marketing of the original movie? no they believed it was just common thing and let them assume it

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

]
-the shredder armor
-mural
-all the japanese symbols all over the sets
-Japanese foot symbol on the uniforms
-Traditional Japanese seppuku ceremony
-traditional Gis
-Karai
-Shredders Dojo

Yup no Japanese ties any where to be found

As others noted, I think it's a question of where's the connection for Splinter and the turtles. How does Splinter know ninjutsu, etc.

So far, all of your examples support Eric Sachs being obsessed with Japanese and samurai/ninja culture, but nothing supports why Splinter and the turtles share that connection.

Unless that's just a similar fighting style to the ancient turtle warriors of Dimension X. I kid, I kid!!!

But that's really where the big blank spot with a ? is right now. They've seemed to scrap all the traditional Japanese connections for the turtles, so it's unclear how any of their side fits in.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

do they tell you about the feud in the marketing of the original movie? no they believed it was just common thing and let them assume it

The original didn't alter their origin and change Shredder to a caucasian with an American name. There's more present that we know about the new one to incur a head scratch.

Not to say it can't be there. Just that right now, it's unclear why the turtles know ninjutsu from Splinter and why there's a Japanese connection for them.

Plus the rocky development of the movie still makes people uneasy and quick to judge.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

do they tell you about the feud in the marketing of the original movie? no they believed it was just common thing and let them assume it

No, but that movie didn't whitewash Shredder/Oroku Saki.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

That's just Japanese stuff, there's no real conection there. All the actors are american and all the names are american. Where did you see Shredder's Dojo and someone comiting seppuku?

it was in Karais Twitter or Instagram
She mentions being stuck in shredders dojo While on set of the movie


The Seppuku IS from an extra who played a foot, they filmed a seen in shredder "thrown room" and some one commits seppuku in traditional Japanese clothing.