The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I never said that, actually. What I said was set photos are worthless for judging a character's height, because camera angles mess with it so easily. The only footage that can "prove" any character's height is actual film footage, and as of yet we don't have any that gives us an extremely clear view of their full stature. The closest is Mikey's mask shot, and not only is he likely to be the shortest, but he could easily be somewhat hunched to talk face to face with April. What I'm saying is we just don't know.

But its a straight on, non animated shot of Raphael standing directly behind someone who is 5'4 "Megan Fox. Some people claim him to be 7, 8 feet tall and what I was pointing out was the fact that some people exaggerate. I also asked if there were people that think they gripe on this film more than others and if they would be this critical about a Marvel film. Which is a fair question to ask. I wasn't trying to offend anyone. Boston answered beautifully. So did sheep. But I wasn't pointing the finger at you personally.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

But its a straight on, non animated shot of Raphael standing directly behind someone who is 5'4 "Megan Fox. Some people claim him to be 7, 8 feet tall and what I was pointing out was the fact that some people exaggerate. I also asked if there were people that think they gripe on this film more than others and if they would be this critical about a Marvel film. Which is a fair question to ask. I wasn't trying to offend anyone. Boston answered beautifully. So did sheep. But I wasn't pointing the finger at you personally.

And I gave you a completely sincere response before adding to it that I didn't want to engage in another debate of explaining why I'm critical of this movie. I didn't even remove the sincere response, it's still back there in a spoiler tag.

And again, that is a set photo. It's not taken from the angles that will be in the film. Again, I can show you photos of Robert Downey Jr. looking like Peter Dinklage on the set of Avengers. Sometimes he wears heels, sometimes they have him stand on something, and sometimes they just shoot from a specific angle to mess with it.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I always think of how Peter Jackson blew mah mind showing Elijah Wood short as a proper Hobbit next to Ian McKellan using camera tricks rather than any special effects.

The Hobbit's heavy use of CG does disappoint me, to be honest. Particularly with the orcs.

But that may be a tad off topic. Sorry!

Just saw this:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/30...anabe#/slide/1

Bay got Ken Watanabe to voice Drift in Transformers: Age of Extinction. T_T

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I wonder if people are this critical with every movie that they watch? If so.. how the hell do you enjoy yourself?
I think one of the reasons why we enjoyed the old films so much is bc we weren't so critical of everything. So it makes sense that if we want to enjoy this at the same level we did when we were children is to watch it in that same frame of mind. It's just a movie. Not real life, so it shouldn't be treated as such. Yea some " myself included " pick and choose what should be realistic and what shouldn't be. Ask yourself.. if this were a Marvel film would you be picking apart ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about it? Some of you, I doubt it.

I kind of disagree with this because when I watch the old movies these days I feel im not doing it with nostalgia goggles but with the same adult eyes and mindset I use to critique everything else I watch these days and I find that apart from some dated slang they hold up very well. the first one more so because it didn't completely pander to a certain demographic. I enjoyed soto better when I was a child but that makes sense because it was made primarily for children. the third, well that was an all around ill conceived attempt to keep the movies going made at a time when the franchise was deep into slap'em on everything people will possibly buy and beat the horse until it dies mode. I don't think anybody should have to watch this with the same mind frame they had when they were kids to enjoy it when the team working on it is knowledgeable about the existence of adult fans. when there are members of that team that claim to be adult fans. when the first generation of fans are at best in their late 20's I don't think it too far fetched to expect them to deliver a film I can enjoy on an adult level.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

O snap lol.. My bad Sam.. Yea someone just sent them to me. My buddy Jay sent me another pic of himself as well. He's a fully trained fighter and one of the guys that confirmed that they wont just be " shooting their rifles off " the whole time. There will be plenty of hand to hand combat

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...19789140_n.jpg

is he a personal friend of yours?

I've actually reached out to him via Instagram and he was cool enough to entertain my questions.

[Radical Raph]

Did anybody else notice that you can see Splinter being stabbed by Shredder if you look closely in the reflection on Donnie's glasses?

[MastahShredder]

I don't see it at all but some others did mention it before.

[MajorViolence]

Yeah I'm trying my best but I can't see it. Any chance you can trace it?

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

I don't see it at all but some others did mention it before.

I was actually kidding, lol, but I didn't know that other people had mentioned it.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I always think of how Peter Jackson blew mah mind showing Elijah Wood short as a proper Hobbit next to Ian McKellan using camera tricks rather than any special effects.

The Hobbit's heavy use of CG does disappoint me, to be honest. Particularly with the orcs.

But that may be a tad off topic. Sorry!

Just saw this:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/30...anabe#/slide/1

Bay got Ken Watanabe to voice Drift in Transformers: Age of Extinction. T_T

I kinda like the Goblins in The Hobbit, and the Orcs as well, although. They could be more akin in design to the various Orc kind in the LOTR movies, but they are rather eye catching.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

I was actually kidding, lol, but I didn't know that other people had mentioned it.

Lol. I believe a few people did mention something about Shredder in the reflection.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I kinda like the Goblins in The Hobbit, and the Orcs as well, although. They could be more akin in design to the various Orc kind in the LOTR movies, but they are rather eye catching.

I liked the goblins, didn't like the orcs.

And while orc are goblinkind, they do have a difference in how they're presented. I just liked the "feel" of the LotR orcs more than the CG ones of the Hobbit.

I do think the turtles, opinion on design aside, look like better quality CG than some of the orcs in Hobbit. Smaug is still sweet though.

[Vicky82]

Yeah that was me that said I could see Shredder in the reflection but someone posted a better hi res picture and I was wrong, it was just reflection of Donnie's head gear

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

I was actually kidding, lol, but I didn't know that other people had mentioned it.

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Lol. I believe a few people did mention something about Shredder in the reflection.

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Yeah that was me that said I could see Shredder in the reflection but someone posted a better hi res picture and I was wrong, it was just reflection of Donnie's head gear

watch it actually be true, and its exactly what Donnie is reacting to. I would not be surprised...I have this theory that during the LAIR RAID, the turtles get overpowered due to sheer number, and Splinter and Shredder have their fight after the Turtles are subdued, and bound.

[Candy Kappa]

true, the Orcs do lean a little to much on the cartoony side, being so "clean" looking. The PD Turtles, despite their designs are for the most patr in the trailers very well integrated into the live-action footage.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

watch it actually be true, and its exactly what Donnie is reacting to. I would not be surprised...I have this theory that during the LAIR RAID, the turtles get overpowered due to sheer number, and Splinter and Shredder have their fight after the Turtles are subdued, and bound.

That would actually be really cool and a step up from the original movie. The turtles forced to watch their master/father figure being over powered by Shredder would bring a lot of tension and dramatic weight to the scene.

We've never really had a Shredder vs Splinter fight before on film so this has a lot of potential to be awesome.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

watch it actually be true, and its exactly what Donnie is reacting to. I would not be surprised...I have this theory that during the LAIR RAID, the turtles get overpowered due to sheer number, and Splinter and Shredder have their fight after the Turtles are subdued, and bound.

COuld see that Happening Im try to piece thing together from everything we Have seen. Arpil fainting, Lair break in, Cargo container fight, SUbway fight, Script with turtles entering lair after fight(which fight on we've scene or new once) turtles capture Raph leaving, raph returning find missing turtle's and splinter or is hes still there, Splinter fighting shredder, raph April Vernon rescue turtles, But why were they in the lair during the attack and not taken, snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board during snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board at what looks like skate park. Raph hummer collision, raph back hand fist the foot, when does the turtle can come into play, when does the new van come into play, Raph disguise, NY destruction, TGRI lab, Splinter lab rat scene, Shredders office, Foot seppuku, Karai Shredders dojo, So much i know where missing alot but in fun to try and piece it all together lol

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

COuld see that Happening Im try to piece thing together from everything we Have seen. Arpil fainting, Lair break in, Cargo container fight, SUbway fight, Script with turtles entering lair after fight(which fight on we've scene or new once) turtles capture Raph leaving, raph returning find missing turtle's and splinter or is hes still there, Splinter fighting shredder, raph April Vernon rescue turtles, But why were they in the lair during the attack and not taken, snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board during snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board at what looks like skate park. Raph hummer collision, raph back hand fist the foot, when does the turtle can come into play, when does the new van come into play, Raph disguise, NY destruction, TGRI lab, Splinter lab rat scene, Shredders office, Foot seppuku, Karai Shredders dojo, So much i know where missing alot but in fun to try and piece it all together lol

Don't forget the lego set's Mikey bound in some kind of contraption and raph april and vernon save him and drag some kind of anteta with their van. Also scared people runing away and looking at the skye. The thing in the lair is probably they all get captured except Raph...

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

COuld see that Happening Im try to piece thing together from everything we Have seen. Arpil fainting, Lair break in, Cargo container fight, SUbway fight, Script with turtles entering lair after fight(which fight on we've scene or new once) turtles capture Raph leaving, raph returning find missing turtle's and splinter or is hes still there, Splinter fighting shredder, raph April Vernon rescue turtles, But why were they in the lair during the attack and not taken, snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board during snowy down hill chaise, Mikey rocket board at what looks like skate park. Raph hummer collision, raph back hand fist the foot, when does the turtle can come into play, when does the new van come into play, Raph disguise, NY destruction, TGRI lab, Splinter lab rat scene, Shredders office, Foot seppuku, Karai Shredders dojo, So much i know where missing alot but in fun to try and piece it all together lol

heres my theory on a few of those...

...Mikey at the Skate Park - isnt a skate park at all, but just a section of the lair built to simulate one for practice purposes.
...the cargo and the subway scene, are what keep telling me there are gonna be other mutants involved...and those mutants escape from their cargo/holding cells, create some chaos, find their way into the subway, the foot try to stop 'em, and the Turtles drop in and take out both groups, the mutants, and the Foot.

...but in light of the page of the script, where they make not mention of fighting another mutant, I could be very wrong.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Don't forget the lego set's Mikey bound in some kind of contraption and raph april and vernon save him and drag some kind of anteta with their van. Also scared people runing away and looking at the skye. The thing in the lair is probably they all get captured except Raph...

The crowd of people running, are probably cause of that Tower that was falling.