The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[tmntmikey23]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

You don't know what sarcasm is, do you?

i do i just thought you were asking me a question :/

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

and Raph always seems to find himself in 1 vs 100 kind of situations.

Ironically in the comics, that's been Leo's micro-series.

Remember in the Mirage series, it's Leo vs Foot across the city until it's practically all of them PLUS Shredder before he's finally beat down. Raph was at April's with the others getting "jumped" by Klunk when he tried to sneak a peek at the presents Mike hadn't wrapped yet. (And I still love Raph trimming the tree with butterfly knives)

IDW did the same basic premise in their Leo Micro-Series issue as well.


Raph's contention with Leo isn't so much Raph wants to be leader as much as he wants Leo to lead more aggressively. Leo's methods and Raph's approach are entire opposites and simply put, Raph is impatient with Leo's methodical approach to things.

Leo thinks it's best to get leads, Raph sees that as "sit here on our butts" (doing nothing).

Secret of the Ooze basically got Raph caught again because of impatience, deciding to go with Keno to investigate themselves.

07 TMNT was again Raph not willing to sit around, but take action in Leo's absence. Honestly, the conflict and fight between them was really awesome, but also poorly built up in the movie itself. It could have been better established.

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

07 TMNT was again Raph not willing to sit around, but take action in Leo's absence. Honestly, the conflict and fight between them was really awesome, but also poorly built up in the movie itself. It could have been better established.

The 07 movie had way too much plot and not enough run time...

[NoName999]

As far as the brothers trailer go, I actually liked that they bothered to show the titular characters asap unlike in most comic book movie trailers, they usually don't.

So the trailer did that right in retrospect.

[Coola Yagami]

It just seems that every thing I see something new makes me want to see the movie even less. If this turns out to be a success it just shows that people are stupid enough to eat up whatever crap you throw at them. Anyone liking this movie really have no right to complain about the transformers movies or amazing Spider-Man 2.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It just seems that every thing I see something new makes me want to see the movie even less. If this turns out to be a success it just shows that people are stupid enough to eat up whatever crap you throw at them. Anyone liking this movie really have no right to complain about the transformers movies or amazing Spider-Man 2.

From what I've heard, Spidey 2 is already taking a hard dip at the box office, and I actually thought that movie was alright. (To clarify, I'm not denying it had a lot of problems. I just thought despite those problems it had a lot to offer.) So it goes to show just how tough the competition at the box office is this year.

I really feel bad for TMNT. Had it been released last year, it would have stood a much greater chance of success. This year (and next!) are extremely crowded summer action movie seasons. The line between smash hit and total failure is going to be a lot thinner than usual.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It just seems that every thing I see something new makes me want to see the movie even less. If this turns out to be a success it just shows that people are stupid enough to eat up whatever crap you throw at them. Anyone liking this movie really have no right to complain about the transformers movies or amazing Spider-Man 2.

A good movie is subjective. And yes i understand there are universally panned films but just because you dont like what you are seeing doesnt make the rest of us who do stupid.

[electric_sheep]

How much until the movie is realesed? 2,3 months and still no word from eaither director or producer? Is this movie just skip the marketing part?

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Am I the only one who thinks it is strange that a 'Big Budget, Summer Action Movie' has had 2 trailers and a TV spot, and it seems that all of these so far have barely had any Action in them? And yet people say that it's a film 'filled with action'.

Or at least action that is supposed to be the 'Oh cool!' stuff that a lot of Summer Action Films are supposed to have...

So even in the 'Big/Dumb Action' Category, there's barely been anything and yet so many people are Excited for 'All of This Action'.

And it's like, what action? I guess people were really impressed by that 'Raph-Smash' because that's like the only thing seen so far. Oh, and a tower falls (which I guess we've never seen before...I guess).

[Fjaj]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

If this turns out to be a success it just shows that people are stupid enough to eat up whatever crap you throw at them.

Or, it could mean that some people have a different opinion than you.

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Am I the only one who thinks it is strange that a 'Big Budget, Summer Action Movie' has had 2 trailers and a TV spot, and it seems that all of these so far have barely had any Action in them? And yet people say that it's a film 'filled with action'.

Yeah, we haven't seen any big fight scenes yet, just before and after some of them. I think that they're probably just saving them for a later trailer. Also, it could be that they're still finishing up the CGI for the fight scenes, which probably takes longer. However, I think the trailers do still convey the "Generic Action Movie" feel quite well, at least for me.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Am I the only one who thinks it is strange that a 'Big Budget, Summer Action Movie' has had 2 trailers and a TV spot, and it seems that all of these so far have barely had any Action in them? And yet people say that it's a film 'filled with action'.

Or at least action that is supposed to be the 'Oh cool!' stuff that a lot of Summer Action Films are supposed to have...

So even in the 'Big/Dumb Action' Category, there's barely been anything and yet so many people are Excited for 'All of This Action'.

And it's like, what action? I guess people were really impressed by that 'Raph-Smash' because that's like the only thing seen so far. Oh, and a tower falls (which I guess we've never seen before...I guess).

I know this really bothers bro...more than once youve brought it up and believe im a HUGE fight fan and am dying to see some REAL action. The reason im holding out is because even the original live action trilogy, though scarce on the action, heavy on the comedy, when they did have action it was pretty awesome. I think theyve been showing the scenes they have because thatvtype of geberic action ie. Explosions tend to work well with the masses. Sadly martial art fans like us have to wait. But I still think its coming

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Fjaj

Or, it could mean that some people have a different opinion than you.



Yeah, we haven't seen any big fight scenes yet, just before and after some of them. I think that they're probably just saving them for a later trailer. Also, it could be that they're still finishing up the CGI for the fight scenes, which probably takes longer. However, I think the trailers do still convey the "Generic Action Movie" feel quite well, at least for me.

You think they would turn some people to wanting to see the movie by showing them some cool action shoots? You don't sell your movie on the "story" when you have Megan F Fox in the leading roll, maybe show some of the turtles doing some cool martial arts? These people have no idea what they are doing...

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I think theyve been showing the scenes they have because thatvtype of geberic action ie. Explosions tend to work well with the masses. Sadly martial art fans like us have to wait. But I still think its coming

Yeah, but wouldn't Awesome, balls to the wall action/fights sell more than 'generic action'? And there weren't even that many explosions. The trailer to 21 Jump Street when it came out had more explosions than this, lol.

I would think in pre-production, just thinking of marketing & how to sell the film, someone would have gone 'we need to at least have At Least One Bad Ass scene finished & done to show people since we have an Uphill battle. So make sure we get at least one of them done by that time.'

But maybe I put more thought into it than them...

[Fjaj]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

You think they would turn some people to wanting to see the movie by showing them some cool action shoots? You don't sell your movie on the "story" when you have Megan F Fox in the leading roll, maybe show some of the turtles doing some cool martial arts? These people have no idea what they are doing...

Actually, I think marketing is the thing they know the most about. They definitely know how to market a movie. However, when it comes to aspects of actually making the movie, perhaps not so much.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

i love me a good fight on the tops of moving vehicles - im hoping some Foot find their way on top, and awesomeness ensues.

i just did a Turtles Marathon - Movies 1-3, and Raph always seems to find himself in 1 vs 100 kind of situations.

Yep. Hit Girl's fight on top and the side of a moving van in Kick Ass 2 was one of the very few decent moments in that movie. And who can forget the awesome gun fight on the semi in Terminator 2.

[Fjaj]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

I would think in pre-production, just thinking of marketing & how to sell the film, someone would have gone 'we need to at least have At Least One Bad Ass scene finished & done to show people since we have an Uphill battle. So make sure we get at least one of them done by that time.'

But maybe I put more thought into it than them...

I think they're probably just saving it for later, or they haven't finished the effects yet. And I think they probably have a lot people planning marketing, they've probably thought about it much more than anything else.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Ironically in the comics, that's been Leo's micro-series.

Remember in the Mirage series, it's Leo vs Foot across the city until it's practically all of them PLUS Shredder before he's finally beat down. Raph was at April's with the others getting "jumped" by Klunk when he tried to sneak a peek at the presents Mike hadn't wrapped yet. (And I still love Raph trimming the tree with butterfly knives)

IDW did the same basic premise in their Leo Micro-Series issue as well.


Raph's contention with Leo isn't so much Raph wants to be leader as much as he wants Leo to lead more aggressively. Leo's methods and Raph's approach are entire opposites and simply put, Raph is impatient with Leo's methodical approach to things.

Leo thinks it's best to get leads, Raph sees that as "sit here on our butts" (doing nothing).

Secret of the Ooze basically got Raph caught again because of impatience, deciding to go with Keno to investigate themselves.

07 TMNT was again Raph not willing to sit around, but take action in Leo's absence. Honestly, the conflict and fight between them was really awesome, but also poorly built up in the movie itself. It could have been better established.

In the novel that went with the movie, Raph didn't like the plan Leo was using because Leo was actually using April as bait, and Raph didn't like that idea at all. Too bad the movie couldn't explain it better, because it made Raph more caring than he let on.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Fjaj

I think they're probably just saving it for later, or they haven't finished the effects yet. And I think they probably have a lot people planning marketing, they've probably thought about it much more than anything else.

Ironicly all the M.B and J.L trailers were heavy action orianated, every single one of them, i have no idea what's going on here...
maybe they don't want to piss of people by showing us something that we wouldn't like?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Am I the only one who thinks it is strange that a 'Big Budget, Summer Action Movie' has had 2 trailers and a TV spot, and it seems that all of these so far have barely had any Action in them? And yet people say that it's a film 'filled with action'.

Or at least action that is supposed to be the 'Oh cool!' stuff that a lot of Summer Action Films are supposed to have...

So even in the 'Big/Dumb Action' Category, there's barely been anything and yet so many people are Excited for 'All of This Action'.

And it's like, what action? I guess people were really impressed by that 'Raph-Smash' because that's like the only thing seen so far. Oh, and a tower falls (which I guess we've never seen before...I guess).

Well, to be fair, GOTG has had only one teaser out now, but it doesn't help much that it seems to have explained it's characters and action alot more than three snippets from TMNT have.

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

You think they would turn some people to wanting to see the movie by showing them some cool action shoots? You don't sell your movie on the "story" when you have Megan F Fox in the leading roll, maybe show some of the turtles doing some cool martial arts? These people have no idea what they are doing...

Now, now. Megan Fox still is in probably the most watched music video of all time, and she didn't utter a single line. However, the line she does say, is voiced over by Eminem ;p

[tmntmikey23]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Ironicly all the M.B and J.L trailers were heavy action orianated, every single one of them, i have no idea what's going on here...
maybe they don't want to piss of people by showing us something that we wouldn't like?

how come in every post i read not just from you but everyone hates this movie you said you hate it cus there is no ninja moves in a promo ethers just complain why MBay Ruined my child hood PS just saying not just on this forum. this forum was more friendly before this movie but now there is no more fun its just complain there complaint here come on guys i like your opinions but do you got to say i hate this movie cus there was no ninja moves in a promo ? i am not trying to start a fight i just want a answer so PM me it ok i dont want this thread closed.