The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[Candy Kappa]

They did get their budget slashed, if I remember correctly. I'm sure that the marketing was what got cut. But, still. One can do a lot of nifty things with a minimal budget.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Or then spent their whole budget on the movie and they don't have anything left for marketing, or is that a separate budget?

Truth be told, the answer is "depends." Sometimes the marketing budget is included in such figures, sometimes it's not. I'm not certain which is usually the case. (I kind of want to say it's usually included, but I'm not certain.)

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

Truth be told, the answer is "depends." Sometimes the marketing budget is included in such figures, sometimes it's not. I'm not certain which is usually the case. (I kind of want to say it's usually included, but I'm not certain.)

Ironically spider man was a movie were it want included they even spent almost as much just on marketing alone it sucks the movie isn't better received i loved it

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I do agree that the posters should have been released before the trailers But not in Nov or Dec im sorry it just doesn't work that way all the time,

Jan-Mar is almost dead time for movies. It's a relatively quiet period. Teaser posters out in the holidays is the second biggest traffic period. I'm not sure why you wouldn't consider that the best time for teaser posters.

I understand you look at movies Like Spiderman and Xmen , and Just assume TMNT should automatically market that way but its just not true.

No, I assume it should be marketed like a major summer blockbuster. Not specifically like the other comic book movies.

Lets look at movie and how many month are between first teaser/trailer, and release

I'm not talking about exclusively teaser/trailer. I'm talking about marketing. Which encompasses a lot more than only the trailers.

So yes, Sam, I'm surprised TMNT didn't have more.

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Ironically spider man was a movie were it want included they even spent almost as much just on marketing alone it sucks the movie isn't better received i loved it

Kevin Smith hates Hollywood's marketing spending, I'll give you that.

[MajorViolence]

By the way, the friend I messages last night did respond. He said yes, there should be plenty of footage trailer-ready at this point in production. I'm inclined to believe he knows what he's talking about.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

By the way, the friend I messages last night did respond. He said yes, there should be plenty of footage trailer-ready at this point in production. I'm inclined to believe he knows what he's talking about.

Unless the animator crew played wow for the majority of the time

I'm sure the lack of footage is intentional, but there are several ways for the animation team to be behind schedule, if that was the case.

Like, all animation is done, but the render time takes too long. or files suddenly turns corrupted and screws over whole animation sequences.

Happened to me once, when I did some lip sync wor on my (cruddy) Mirage TMNT model. the sound file got bugged in some way, so the entire file, and the back-ups I made, was suddenly completely useless. I had a finished product, but I can't open that file to re-work on it. And I no longer have the finished render, it was on Youtube, but, it's now muted due to Youtube's copyright policy hit me hard.

and, man. That render time gotta be huge anyway. Sure, the turtle models don't have fur or hair on then, besides what would be on their clothes. But then there is cloth simulation as well on them. Gotta be fun.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Unless the animator crew played wow for the majority of the time

I'm sure the lack of footage is intentional, but there are several ways for the animation team to be behind schedule, if that was the case.

Like, all animation is done, but the render time takes too long. or files suddenly turns corrupted and screws over whole animation sequences.

Happened to me once, when I did some lip sync wor on my (cruddy) Mirage TMNT model. the sound file got bugged in some way, so the entire file, and the back-ups I made, was suddenly completely useless. I had a finished product, but I can't open that file to re-work on it. And I no longer have the finished render, it was on Youtube, but, it's now muted due to Youtube's copyright policy hit me hard.

and, man. That render time gotta be huge anyway. Sure, the turtle models don't have fur or hair on then, besides what would be on their clothes. But then there is cloth simulation as well on them. Gotta be fun.

My guess is still that they've shot something that they think we wouldn't like and they are gonna try to conceal it as long as possible or there's so little turtles in this movie that they are afraid that they will show it all in the trailer...

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Unless the animator crew played wow for the majority of the time

I'm sure the lack of footage is intentional, but there are several ways for the animation team to be behind schedule, if that was the case.

Like, all animation is done, but the render time takes too long. or files suddenly turns corrupted and screws over whole animation sequences.

Happened to me once, when I did some lip sync wor on my (cruddy) Mirage TMNT model. the sound file got bugged in some way, so the entire file, and the back-ups I made, was suddenly completely useless. I had a finished product, but I can't open that file to re-work on it. And I no longer have the finished render, it was on Youtube, but, it's now muted due to Youtube's copyright policy hit me hard.

and, man. That render time gotta be huge anyway. Sure, the turtle models don't have fur or hair on then, besides what would be on their clothes. But then there is cloth simulation as well on them. Gotta be fun.

Or worse yet:

[Candy Kappa]

.... ouch...

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

One can do a lot of nifty things with a minimal budget.

Three words came to mind when you mentioned that.

Blair Witch Project.

Minimal Budget. Yet some of the Best Marketing Ever.

[Candy Kappa]

Found footage and fake new sites, or blogs that sites that creatures walks in New York, would have been pretty cool.

[MajorViolence]

I could easily see someone starting a Tumblr based around a channel 6 intern obsessed with finding information about these turtles in NYC. Occasional updates with interviews with random citizens who've spotted them, shuriken found embedded in bricks, manhole covers that have been tampered with, a plot involving the Purple Dragons getting upset about this news person snooping around their territory, and just before the film's release, shaky found footage of the the intern being attacked by the Purple Dragons before being rescued by the turtles.

The entire thing would probably cost less than a thousand bucks or so.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

I could easily see someone starting a Tumblr based around a channel 6 intern obsessed with finding information about these turtles in NYC. Occasional updates with interviews with random citizens who've spotted them, shuriken found embedded in bricks, manhole covers that have been tampered with, a plot involving the Purple Dragons getting upset about this news person snooping around their territory, and just before the film's release, shaky found footage of the the intern being attacked by the Purple Dragons before being rescued by the turtles.

The entire thing would probably cost less than a thousand bucks or so.

And it would've been glorious. To bad the marketing team couldn't have put something together. id have been first inline to but a ticket

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Jan-Mar is almost dead time for movies. It's a relatively quiet period. Teaser posters out in the holidays is the second biggest traffic period. I'm not sure why you wouldn't consider that the best time for teaser posters.

I dont know what to say about other movie theater Im sure other bigger ones do thing differently but i know for a fact that my local one Doesn't have any posters for any movie more then a month of two away, just because space and all is short. But Im not sure about other theater ones with more space and larger might have plenty, Like my theater back in Oregon Might even have stuff already

No, I assume it should be marketed like a major summer blockbuster. Not specifically like the other comic book movies.

then If thats the case what about movie like Hercules OR The Scarlet johansson Movie, or the many others movies that are on a shorter time frame as well? Rising Jupiter I Mean if you went through every movie the comes out this summer im almost positive that the majority of them Didn't have Big huge Marketing pushes like Spiderman or others

Kevin Smith hates Hollywood's marketing spending, I'll give you that.

Sure does

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I dont know what to say about other movie theater Im sure other bigger ones do thing differently but i know for a fact that my local one Doesn't have any posters for any movie more then a month of two away, just because space and all is short.

actually i know for a FACT that movie theaters are supposed to get a teaser package containing any and all summer movies teaser posters



i know both owners of my local theaters, and both own different theaters across the east coast

they give me the stuff they don't want after they are supposed to chuck them..

one still hasn't gotten anything as of the end of last month and the other Just got the turtles poster when Cap 2 came out


it is then at the discretion of the theater owners and its employees to decide what they will put up

Originally Posted by samxsteal

The Scarlet johansson Movie, or the many others movies that are on a shorter time frame as well?

this movie does not fall under your standard hollywood time frame..since it is both technically and indie and Foreign film






EDI: also what is this about now Danny being in the movie again..do we really need that many human characters?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

EDI: also what is this about now Danny being in the movie again..do we really need that many human characters?

When "Danny" is stated in reference to the movie, I assume Danny Woodburn?

Or is Danny from the original somehow come up in discussion? O_o

[MajorViolence]

Oh god I forgot all about first movie Danny.

The real question is... Are we going to see the return of that cigar-smoking kid?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

When "Danny" is stated in reference to the movie, I assume Danny Woodburn?

Or is Danny from the original somehow come up in discussion? O_o

not here


but on tumblr and facebook recently ive seen posts saying that they recently cast "Danny" in a new tmnt movie...and i have no idea what it means

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I dont know what to say about other movie theater Im sure other bigger ones do thing differently but i know for a fact that my local one Doesn't have any posters for any movie more then a month of two away, just because space and all is short. But Im not sure about other theater ones with more space and larger might have plenty, Like my theater back in Oregon Might even have stuff already

I got so many theaters near me, it's ridiculous. But the really big one, that has the IMAX and even DBox seats, is quite something else. Has 20 theaters, a bar, a play room for the kids, here, just look at some of these pics.


This is the bar enterance.






And well, I guess the theater is big enough that it starts to show posters for movies, sometimes years in advance.

They often have big movie posters hanging from the high ceilings.

[MajorViolence]

Holy jebus!