The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Dude seriously

Whaaaat? It's legit, i swear on Michael bay's life...

[Radical Raph]

After such a tame marketing approach, those posters are really lame.

You know what, even if there was a ton of marketing they'd still be kinda lame.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I've heard Mid June and will be connected to Transformers 4.

That would be late June. Age of Extinction is nearly at the end, giving barely a month til TMNT.


I can't understand people defending that teaser image. I understand being positive and optimistic, but saying that image is awesome and the right way to do this...that's delusional.

Seriously look at how they're doing this.

-Nothing released whatsoever.
-Halloween costume leaks, internet flips out with WTF?
-Maquettes leak, internet responds with "oh, not so bad"
-Toy Fair images leak, reaction kind of mixed
-Still no official peep
-Teaser trailer releases - reaction mixed, startling amount of reactions that they didn't know this move was in the works imo
-Release teaser posters of the hands after you've SEEN THE TURTLES
-TV Spot releases - not much new, but first look at Splinter
-"Trailer 2" releases - adds 9 seconds of new footage total
-Release outline shadowy image of the turtles AFTER you've fully revealed HOW THEY LOOK


This is freakin' ass-backwards, people. They're releasing the teaser images AFTER releasing the full reveal. I can't understand how anyone says "this makes sense, keep them in the shadows." They're already NOT in the shadows, guys. You can't keep it mysterious after showing a close up of the supposedly mysterious thing.


Electric_Sheep's Mikey poster looks about arguably believable to the real one myself.


And finally, that list of "high potential" movies....a very large portion of those is 50% or lower on Rotten Tomatoes....from movie goers, not critics. I think it's fair to not expect a high quality movie. A standard fun popcorn flick, sure it might be that.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

That would be late June. Age of Extinction is nearly at the end, giving barely a month til TMNT.


I can't understand people defending that teaser image. I understand being positive and optimistic, but saying that image is awesome and the right way to do this...that's delusional.

Seriously look at how they're doing this.

-Nothing released whatsoever.
-Halloween costume leaks, internet flips out with WTF?
-Maquettes leak, internet responds with "oh, not so bad"
-Toy Fair images leak, reaction kind of mixed
-Still no official peep
-Teaser trailer releases - reaction mixed, startling amount of reactions that they didn't know this move was in the works imo
-Release teaser posters of the hands after you've SEEN THE TURTLES
-TV Spot releases - not much new, but first look at Splinter
-"Trailer 2" releases - adds 9 seconds of new footage total
-Release outline shadowy image of the turtles AFTER you've fully revealed HOW THEY LOOK


This is freakin' ass-backwards, people. They're releasing the teaser images AFTER releasing the full reveal. I can't understand how anyone says "this makes sense, keep them in the shadows." They're already NOT in the shadows, guys. You can't keep it mysterious after showing a close up of the supposedly mysterious thing.

You do know PLenty of movie have released the same kind of marketing right? spiderman release Very "artistic Ctyle posters similar to this, SO did Captain America, Heck even Xmen has, Godzilla, and many of these released this style of Image Well after Full trailer were released SMH.


its quit ridiculous
"I hate the looks of the turtles"
*released poster with turtle but as shadow
"WTH i wanna see more turtles, new shots of the turtles"
Seriously if anything is "backassward" it the "fan" response to things seriously Make up your mind do you want to see more turtles Or do you(not necessarily you) think there so bad looking you dont want to see them ever again? Cuz quite frankly it just confusing


We have four trailers/ Tv spots

Hd Shots of the trailer, April photos(and if it was anyone else but megan fox this wouldn't be an issue)

Artistic Name posters, now The turtles them selves

We have Active(albeit Slow) Twitter, tumblr and facebook,
a official You tube page
An Official Webpage,

IN june were getting a new trailer The visual history of TMNT
potentially many more

Everyone know market ramp up the months before release. that goes for every movie, Even one the Over saturate the market with marketing like ASM and Xmen. And even then, people do realize the "Character spots" for Xmen just started coming out this month the month of release?

[Glados]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

http://s21.postimg.org/7bqb27e93/kjhkh.jpgThey've just released Mikey poster.

Urk, that's such a stiff uninteresting pose, it looks like it's of the freakin' toy! And the over all visuals looks like it was smacked together in PS in 5 minutes, they must have really busted their marketing budget... and someone got the wrong job!

[Glados]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Whaaaat? It's legit, i swear on Michael bay's life...

Wait, did I just fall for something... XD

[SwiftNinjaFox]

No, I don't remember those other movies doing the "we won't show you anything after we showed you it" posters. I remember them PRIOR to the trailers, like Cap's battered shield poster. The stylized Cap poster wasn't trying to hide anything, it was just an art style.

But sure, everything is perfect and it's all making sense. This is the best marketing we could ask for.

I just don't see it.

What I see is what you pointed out:

"I hate the looks of the turtles"
*released poster with turtle but as shadow*

It just seems like they're holding back potential negativity by not showing more, so they're going with teasers that most anyone would expect as a build up to anticipating the actual reveal.

This is pre-teaser marketing material. The stuff you do with viral marketing and such.


And there aren't multiple trailers out now. There's one, a reworked one, and an extended one that are all the same trailer with maybe 10-15 seconds of different footage. Right now we're collectively expecting actual marketing a sum of 6 weeks prior to release date.

There's a big difference between Days of Future Past doing character spots a month before and what TMNT appears to be waiting to do a month before. Granted, I've avoided most of the X-Men stuff as I'm going in blind on that one.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

No, I don't remember those other movies doing the "we won't show you anything after we showed you it" posters. I remember them PRIOR to the trailers, like Cap's battered shield poster. The stylized Cap poster wasn't trying to hide anything, it was just an art style.

But sure, everything is perfect and it's all making sense. This is the best marketing we could ask for.

I just don't see it.

What I see is what you pointed out:

"I hate the looks of the turtles"
*released poster with turtle but as shadow*

It just seems like they're holding back potential negativity by not showing more, so they're going with teasers that most anyone would expect as a build up to anticipating the actual reveal.

This is pre-teaser marketing material. The stuff you do with viral marketing and such.


And there aren't multiple trailers out now. There's one, a reworked one, and an extended one that are all the same trailer with maybe 10-15 seconds of different footage. Right now we're collectively expecting actual marketing a sum of 6 weeks prior to release date.

There's a big difference between Days of Future Past doing character spots a month before and what TMNT appears to be waiting to do a month before. Granted, I've avoided most of the X-Men stuff as I'm going in blind on that one.

This was released well after the first couple trailers were released


Just check out this guy
http://oliriches.tumblr.com/


And it two months not just one June July August its still May there bud

And yes We have One full trailer

The trailer tvspot

The Brothers Tv Spot

then The extended trailer thats four

And it doesn't matter that You personally dont count them. Spiderman did the same thing the first couple trailers Had rescyled Shots and footage with added aspects and lots of the later trailer were just retooled trailer beat for beat

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

sam, come one on man even you have to agree there is something wrong here

someone is hiding, for whatever reason they are deciding to not show the turtles AFTER we were shown the turtles

they are moving backwards


as most of us are trying to say this type of marketing is backwards....we already know what the turtles look like so why try to hide them now?


it would be as it all of a sudden transformers and GOTG decided to hide the autobots and groot from all material


you keep saying movies have done this before, but i dont see it..and not like this not after a trailer where they are fully revealed

Godzilla(1998 ) and Cloverfield come to mind of extreme marketing in this way but notice how neither monster was fully revealed till after the movie came out (well zilla at least)


Turtles is at a disadvantage, its at the end of the summer when most people are tired of big movies, and kids are preparing returning to school and college, but thats not even the kicker


it comes out the week after GOTG, it could be buried and pretty much fail if they dont step up their game now when it comes to marketing

i can almost guarantee you that if GOTG stopped marketing right now it would stil make bank, Turtles needs to do something to prove it has a fighting chance

you can bet if i was in the big chair id be pumping out promo matrial that didnt only showcase fox

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam, come one on man even you have to agree there is something wrong here

someone is hiding, for whatever reason they are deciding to not show the turtles AFTER we were shown the turtles

they are moving backwards


as most of us are trying to say this type of marketing is backwards....we already know what the turtles look like so why try to hide them now?


it would be as it all of a sudden transformers and GOTG decided to hide the autobots and groot from all material


you keep saying movies have done this before, but i dont see it..and not like this not after a trailer where they are fully revealed

Godzilla(1998 ) and Cloverfield come to mind of extreme marketing in this way but notice how neither monster was fully revealed till after the movie came out (well zilla at least)


Turtles is at a disadvantage, its at the end of the summer when most people are tired of big movies, and kids are preparing returning to school and college, but thats not even the kicker


it comes out the week after GOTG, it could be buried and pretty much fail if they dont step up their game now when it comes to marketing

i can almost guarantee you that if GOTG stopped marketing right now it would stil make bank, Turtles needs to do something to prove it has a fighting chance

you can bet if i was in the big chair id be pumping out promo matrial that didnt only showcase fox

NO THERE IS NOT seriously GUH its ridiculous

They not hiding anything. They're just releasing Artistic poster Similar to what i just Posted Which were release well after trailers were released.


This Captain America Poster was released AFTER several trailers were released

This Godzilla poster was released after multiple trailers

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And again this thor POster

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And this Man of steel poster

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SEE A THEME MAYBE

or are people just grasping at straws and being impatient
Yeah im going with inpatients sorry

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

sam no offense but those art "real" posters...they where probably commisioned by the studios but they arnt part of the marketing plan just pop art..it says it right in the url

also its not about impatience other wise why arnt you telling the ones saying give me the movie now to clam down...its about marketing...the marketing on this movie just plain sucks

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam no offense but those art "real" posters...they where probably commisioned by the studios but they arnt part of the marketing plan just pop art..it says it right in the url

also its not about impatience other wise why arnt you telling the ones saying give me the movie now to clam down...its about marketing...the marketing on this movie just plain sucks

its because the url IS for an eBay store that sells officially commissioned and used marketing posters.

Those people do need to Be patient as well Heck i want the movie but its still 2-3 months away from release 2-3 months THINK ABOUT THAT
the marketing isn't bad its just not what the "comic book fan" wants they want the over saturation shoved in your face marketing that RUINS movie and are also considered Terrible marketing.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

its because the url IS for an eBay store that sells officially commissioned and used marketing posters.

not to call you a liar sam

but the original artist Oli Riches

http://www.oliriches.com/

has said nothing about these being commissioned for Marketing and in fact all over his twitter and blog says they are his personal takes on movie posters

so unless you can link me to where it says otherwise


but anyways this is the last thing ill say, you are entitled to believe and feel that this style of marketing is fine and dandy and perfect for the turtles....


but myself and others feel robbed, we havent seen anything in terms of marketing that says they have faith in said film especially when you consider all official still movie images are of Fox

and anything else is minimalistic art that anyone can make in mere minutes

compared to their other summer movie, Transformers that have had a nice healthy blend of both human still images and robot still images as well as cars


i dont want over saturation, but at the same time i want something...something they shows me paramount,platnum dunes, and bay havent just decided to cut their losses

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

but myself and others feel robbed, we havent seen anything in terms of marketing that says they have faith in said film especially when you consider all official still movie images are of Fox

And leo and Vernon and the lair But you now you can focus on Megan fox because that all anyone can do Seriously if this was anyone else it would not matter.

and anything else is minimalistic art that anyone can make in mere minutes

As are pretty much any movie poster Even so of the best movie poster are still made using techniques Taught in HS photo shop what your point.

compared to their other summer movie, Transformers that have had a nice healthy blend of both human still images and robot still images as well as cars

AGAIN transformer is coming out NEXT MONTH mere weeks away SMH, the first trailer WAS IN FEB only FOUR months from release they just started major marketing two months from release TWO MONTHS, we still have 2-3 months for TMNT these arguments are seriously ridiculous.

i dont want over saturation, but at the same time i want something...something they shows me paramount,platinum dunes, and bay haven't just decided to cut their losses

Were getting Article in a magazine a Section in a Major book, A new trailer, Poster released regularly over the past couple months.

Let list every thing releasesd

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[samxsteal]

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[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

sam you just proved my point

there are 4 full Fox stills (and yes i am including the vernon one because she is in it and he is not alone)

and 1 and a half Leo stills..stills from the same shot we keep seeing over and over in every trailer its not something new

and 2 minimalist stile pictures..one with the same leo shot from said trailers

i am not including posters and trailers because thats why they are posters and trailers not movie stills

the lair pics where not stills just behind the set shots someone on set took, and i question how official they where meant to be release wise

ok officially done on this wont say any more..on to trailer talk

[tmntmikey23]

why make a mikey and leo poster and make it black cant they show us the real turtle gosh.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam you just proved my point

there are 4 full Fox stills (and yes i am including the vernon one because she is in it and he is not alone)

and 1 and a half Leo stills..stills from the same shot we keep seeing over and over in every trailer its not something new

and 2 minimalist stile pictures..one with the same leo shot from said trailers

i am not including posters and trailers because thats why they are posters and trailers not movie stills

the lair pics where not stills just behind the set shots someone on set took, and i question how official they where meant to be release wise

ok officially done on this wont say any more..on to trailer talk

I was talking about the lair shot with April in the lair with all the NINJA weapons on the table you know the ones they supposedly wont be using in the movie.


And as i have said before had April been cast as anyone other then Megan this would not be a complaint. but because its Megan these dont count as appropriate marketing stills Just remember this Sam rock well was and "official" movie still for the original movie yup and Danny, and April, and Casey,



Thats 18 different marketing releases a couple more if you count the Booklet they handed out the 3d glasses info released, the Movie theater toppers

[UGHShellshocked]

I'm with you Boston and if I were in the big chair calling the shots I would be putting out trailers left and right even if the trailers consisted of nothing but deleted scenes. I would have dropped this trailer on the Super Bowl. I still feel like I haven't seen anything about this movie yet just a bunch of toys and mere seconds.

I'm still in middle of the road but I'm leaning to the positive but they could release the next trailer and I could absolutely hate it.

[Radical Raph]

In fact, marketing has been so weak for this thing that it's actually starting to dwindle my excitement. Not just from the lack of new footage, but because the lack of marketing makes me question the studio's confidence in their product.