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Old 03-23-2014, 06:11 PM   #41
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To me, this cartoon is the definitive version of the turtles, outside the Mirage comics.
Agreed. Even though I grew up watching the original cartoon, I look at the 4Kids series as the definitive series.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:56 AM   #42
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I wouldn't call it definitive since the main Shredder was not human for the shows run. But it was close to it.

The most definitive version of TMNT is actually turning out to be IDW's comic, since it mixes Mirage with the original cartoon and 4kids and combines it all together. It's also doing all the major story arcs of the franchise in one universe.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:34 PM   #43
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By far my favorite series. I watched it every single Saturday. Still watch it from time to time on VHS.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:09 PM   #44
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Agreed. Even though I grew up watching the original cartoon, I look at the 4Kids series as the definitive series.
Kind of the same. When I was a kid and the '87 series was first airing, my dad taped the original miniseries and the second season for me, and I watched and re-watched those episodes to death. But the later seasons... I'm not sure how much of them I'd actually seen. I saw some, as much as I could, but getting new episodes was pretty imprecise back then.

By the time the 2003 series aired, I had discovered the Mirage comics and became obsessed with them. Seeing them adapted as accurately as they could have been in cartoon form? It was a hell of a rush, and I followed that show way more closely than I did the original cartoon. (Partly because I was 20 years old instead of 5, and partly because it was much easier to at that point in time.)

The 4Kids show was primarily made... well, for kids. But it also followed a contuining storyline in a way the classic cartoon didn't, at least not on the same level. It was made for modern viewers, and that's the kind of thing I appreciate.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:32 PM   #45
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I'm sure that they'll release it properly on dvd at some point - I mean, Next Mutation is out on dvd, y'know? There could be an issue with the rights that's holding it up - I think something similar caused the delay of the 60's Batman show being released for so long.

I've got all of the episodes on my computer, but I would like to have the official dvds for my collection, because I'm anal that way.

4kids is definitely my favourite incarnation of Leo and Raph, and it's a great primer for fans who may not be intimately familiar with all of the comic books.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:11 AM   #46
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In fact both he and Slash were going to appear in the proposed "Ultimate TMNT" show.
Wait ... what? Never heard of this ... can someone fill me in?

"Ultimate TMNT"? Sounds awesome right off the bat, if they planned to go the route that Marvel did with all their 'Ultimate' comics.

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What was that again? I forgot. Krang was essentially merged with Shredder, thus Chrell.
Basically, as the Utroms were leaving to go back to their planet, two Utroms got out of their exoskeletons, walking to the portal. One Utrom whines about how he hates walking on his tentacles, and the other just says "Shut up, Krang!" (Something like that.)

Ch'rell and Krang are two very ... very different characters.
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Old 05-21-2014, 07:34 AM   #47
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2k3 is my fav cartoon even if the old toon was the first version i saw as a kid. The quality of the animation, the stories... it is really a great show!!
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:45 PM   #48
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agreed, I can't really rule it out against the original series because of its significance to me but I just love 2k3 so much, whats everyones fav season?
I'll have to say Season 4, to be honest. I found that the writing was the best in that season, and also it pushed the edge of what a cartoon can do and still be suitable(ish) for kids to watch.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:11 PM   #49
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..idk what the hell you guys are talking about. How is season 3 the best? I just made sure to watch it again and see if theres anything really special about it but nope. It's mostly fillers. Don't get me wrong I love it and the whole series. But it doesn't even compare to season 5
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:31 PM   #50
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..idk what the hell you guys are talking about. How is season 3 the best? I just made sure to watch it again and see if theres anything really special about it but nope. It's mostly fillers. Don't get me wrong I love it and the whole series. But it doesn't even compare to season 5
Please, enlighten me. Where are the fillers? Nearly everything's tied to Shredder's space launch.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:35 PM   #51
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Season 5 sucks so much, dragons? Really? And people complain about the looks of the turtles on the new movie? lol
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:06 AM   #52
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..idk what the hell you guys are talking about. How is season 3 the best? I just made sure to watch it again and see if theres anything really special about it but nope. It's mostly fillers. Don't get me wrong I love it and the whole series. But it doesn't even compare to season 5
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Please, enlighten me. Where are the fillers? Nearly everything's tied to Shredder's space launch.
Plus nearly everything in season 3 comes back and the one episode you can skip (can't imagine why you would) is the darkness inside. Being that it is never brought
up again but that's like most of the short stories of the mirage series. Not to mention one of the better filler episodes of the series.
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Pfff, man I'm almost hating the 2003 series. All that crap with the Supershredders and sh#t. Also Baxter when only his head was on legs etc. And all the monsters.

I'm fond of realism and ''normal'' things like the Shredder in the 2012 series. I want to watch mutated Ninja Turtles with no robots etc.

I really hope the Nick show doesn't do thing horrible things to the show like the 2003 series. Right now all the unrealistic Krang stuff irritates me a bit.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:55 AM   #54
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Pfff, man I'm almost hating the 2003 series. All that crap with the Supershredders and sh#t. Also Baxter when only his head was on legs etc. And all the monsters.
I'm fond of realism and ''normal'' things like the Shredder in the 2012 series. I want to watch mutated Ninja Turtles with no robots etc.
I really hope the Nick show doesn't do thing horrible things to the show like the 2003 series. Right now all the unrealistic Krang stuff irritates me a bit.
What? How is the Nick series any more "real" or "normal" than the 4Kids series? I guess I just don't quite understand what you're insinuating.
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Nick with Mikey's ridicolous expressions, and inconsistent mutagen transformations is definitely more realistic then 2k3...

Yeah, right.


From all the 3 series, it's still the 4kids one I'd watch again. Saying things like how the 4kids was unsuccessful is ridicolous... (dunno if it happened exactly in this topic, but it happens a lot)
I don't have the exact viewer numbers, but 4kids had 7 season, and spawned at least 5 video games, a movie, and an online short series. There aren't that many cartoons which ones were able to do that.

Besides, without 4Kids, I'd have never started to read Mirage, and care about TMNT again. OT is a nice childhood memory, but 4kids -despite toned down for kids- was quiet enjoyable still as a young adult.
Nick does some cool stuff, but has a lot of stupid things in it. Actually, the problem that made me not watching animes again (with a few exceptions) is the same problem I have with Nick.

tl;dr: 2k3 is awesome!
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Pfff, man I'm almost hating the 2003 series. All that crap with the Supershredders and sh#t. Also Baxter when only his head was on legs etc. And all the monsters.

I'm fond of realism and ''normal'' things like the Shredder in the 2012 series. I want to watch mutated Ninja Turtles with no robots etc.

I really hope the Nick show doesn't do thing horrible things to the show like the 2003 series. Right now all the unrealistic Krang stuff irritates me a bit.
Let's hope you never read the original Mirage comics, you might fry your brain out.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:27 PM   #57
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I'll have to say Season 4, to be honest. I found that the writing was the best in that season, and also it pushed the edge of what a cartoon can do and still be suitable(ish) for kids to watch.
It's probably my favourite too, but I really love the first four seasons pretty equally. But season 4 has all my favourite characters present, so it just takes top slot kinda by default.
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Pfff, man I'm almost hating the 2003 series. All that crap with the Supershredders and sh#t. Also Baxter when only his head was on legs etc. And all the monsters.

I'm fond of realism and ''normal'' things like the Shredder in the 2012 series. I want to watch mutated Ninja Turtles with no robots etc.

I really hope the Nick show doesn't do thing horrible things to the show like the 2003 series. Right now all the unrealistic Krang stuff irritates me a bit.
Oh yeah because the Nick series is more "realistic" and "normal" lol Pizza zombies, the unpredictable effects of the mutagen, April's powers and so on
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:26 AM   #59
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Not to mention that EVERY TMNT cartoon had robots.

Gawd, I think some people are just looking for the craziest things to hate on 2k3.
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Gawd, I think some people are just looking for the craziest things to hate on 2k3.
Well said, it gets annoying.
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