Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Gack! It's like they didn't know what movie to make - Superman? Batman? Justice League? - so they just shoved everything into one movie and hoped it would work.

[chrisdude]

They put Batman's name first, and tease Justice League. No one's gonna confuse this with a Man of Steel sequel, now.

[pennydreadful]

Batfleck looks awesome - personally I was feeling pretty burnt out on Batman in general (not being a fan of the Nolan flicks). The director's cut of Daredevil was really enjoyable, so I'm not concerned about Affleck not doing a good job. Besides, he's got a great chin and shoulders - I think he pulls off the cowl much better than some other actors have.

[sdp]

The title to me says that WB has no confidence in Superman, he doesn't even get top billing in the movie. This is no longer a Superman sequel as far as I'm concerned and it's more of a team up movie that leads into Justice League. I still remember when it was announced they said it'd be Man of Steel 2 with Batman guest starring but that he wouldn't have a big role. With this new title we can expect him to be as important as Superman. Hopefully Superman does get a sequel eventually after JL,

[chrisdude]

In a panel with other comic book film writers, David Goyer was asked about how he would treat Martian Manhunter in a film.

Well, he can’t be ******* called ‘The Martian Manhunter’ because that’s goofy. He could be called “Manhunter.” … The whole deal with Martian Manhunter is he’s an alien living amongst us, that’s the deal. He came out in the ’50s, and he had basically all the powers of Superman, except he didn’t like fire, and he could read your mind. So here’s the best part: So he comes down to Earth and decides, unlike Superman who already exists in the world now, that he’s just going to be a homicide detective, and pretend to be a human homicide guy. … So instead of using superpowers and mind-reading and like, “Oh, I could figure out if the President’s lying or whatever,” he just decides to disguise himself as a human homicide detective. Dare to dream.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com...nhunter-goofy/

There was a lot of joking and goofing around, as was the tone of the conversation, but his comments about Martian Manhunter (and She-Hulk) have offended some.

[Leo656]

Typical of DC/WB, really. They've always been afraid of their own properties, ashamed of their silly little "super-hero stuff" they make billions off of. Comic book movies across the board are always a mixed bag, but at least the Marvel movies aren't trying to hide what they are, and are embracing their comic book roots. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy isn't "goofy"? Ant-Man? Of course they're goofy names/ideas/properties, but sometimes that sells.

I mean, saying "Martian Manhunter is a goofy name, simply 'Manhunter' is less so" isn't exactly blasphemy, but it IS another example of how DC/WB approaches their comic characters. I mean, his ideas for executing the character itself are pretty much spot-on, but starting the conversation off with, "We can't call him the Martian Manhunter because it's too goofy" is just way too close to how WB execs spent 15 years saying, "Superman can't fly or have a cape in his movies because that's too goofy." I feel like their movies would do even better if they just accepted the fact that super-heroes don't need to be "justified" or "brought down to earth". The Marvel Studios movies are as goofy and over-the-top as they come, while still keeping a serious tone overall, and even the weaker ones make good money.

I like Goyer's stuff, generally, but I think he's a little pretentious. So many of these film writers act like they wish they were working on something Shakespearian and "important". You write movies, guy, it's all bullsh*t and make-believe. Have fun with it.

[CyberCubed]

Manhunter might be less known than Green Lantern or Flash, but he's hardly an obscure character.

The more obscure DC superheroes are all the kid sidekicks outside of Robin and even characters like Black Canary, Cyborg, etc. are unknown to the general public.

[sdp]

I'd argue that Marvel has also been as "embarrased" as DC has in the movies, but it's logical, Superheroes might still be iconic now but they're definitely a product of their time and many things just haven't aged as well and to us the fans someone called "-----" might not be silly but to the general audience it is.

Martian Manhunter is pretty damn obscure, outside of the recent DC cartoons he didn't have any exposure before and basically no exposure for the mainstream audience. When I first watched JL back in the mid 2000's for the first time I had no idea who he was and I considered myself somewhat of a comic geek. Black Canary and Cyborg for example have been pushed a lot the past decade including in more "mainstream shows" and both of them did have previous appearances on TV, something Martian Manhunter never did. MM also really needs to be written very well, many times I dislike him because of how he's written, other times I think he's an excellent character. He is too similar to Superman and if the writer is not good they can easily mess Martian Manhunter up.

[NinjaPug]

Callan Mulvey To Play The Joker In Batman V Superman?
Latest rumour suggests Aussie actor for the iconic Batman villain
By Ryan Leston | Yahoo Contributor Network – 18 hours ago

After landing an unnamed role in the upcoming 'Batman V Superman', could Callan Mulvey end up playing The Joker?

He's one of DC's most iconic villains… and Batman's greatest foe. But could the Joker appear in 'Batman V Superman'? If you believe the rumours, it looks as though he could be headed for an appearance in the upcoming superhero epic. But who will play him? Some folks are convinced that role may have gone to Callan Mulvey.

In an interview with celeb-gossip site TMZ, the 39-year-old Australian actor refused to reveal any details about his upcoming role… and that certainly seems a little odd.

"Ummm, I can't talk about it," he said about 'Batman V Superman'… and when asked about the possibility of playing The Joker, he was equally tight-lipped. "I can't say anything, man. I'm sworn to secrecy - you're going to have to wait and see."

Of course, this certainly sounds as though Mulvey has something to hide. And after the official Warner Bros. press release explained that he'll be playing an entirely new character, you have to wonder quite why he's been sworn to secrecy.

Obviously, Snyder and co. are keen to keep the details of 'Batman V Superman' to themselves… at least, for now. But could this be a sign that Mulvey's role is a lot bigger than we thought?

There's already been plenty of speculation that The Joker could appear in 'Batman V Superman'… especially after cinematographer Larry Fong posted a rather revealing image to Instagram. And while this is far from a sure-fire confirmation, I think it's safe to say that it's all pointing towards an appearance from Batman's greatest foe.

But does this mean Callan Mulvey will be stepping into the role?

If you ask me, TMZ puts forward some rather compelling arguments… and the fact that Callan Mulvey explained he's sworn to secrecy rather than mentioning he's playing a 'new character' seems rather telling.
Of course, for now we'll just have to wait and see… but it seems the Joker may have a new face after all.

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/callan-m...074800981.html

[chrisdude]

I really, really don't expect Goyer and Nolan to put out crap. If unknowns were making this movie, I'd be sure this was a mess...

I was thinking. CW has Green Arrow and The Flash on television, but they're both Justice League characters. Some might expect to see The Flash involved with a Justice League movie before Cyborg. Do we know, for sure, that Warner Bros. has film rights to Green Arrow or The Flash?

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

I really, really don't expect Goyer and Nolan to put out crap. If unknowns were making this movie, I'd be sure this was a mess...

I was thinking. CW has Green Arrow and The Flash on television, but they're both Justice League characters. Some might expect to see The Flash involved with a Justice League movie before Cyborg. Do we know, for sure, that Warner Bros. has film rights to Green Arrow or The Flash?

Yes. WB owns DC.

[CyberCubed]

I'd rather not see Joker here. Why put a villain in that Superman or Wonder Woman can take out by flicking their finger?

[NinjaPug]

I'd rather not see a Batman villain in this movie at all let alone the Joker.

Maybe they could show Batman busting a lesser known villain in Gotham near the start as a way to setup his character. Personally I wouldn't want anything more than that.

[electric_sheep]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=101365
i actually really, really like this idea. Modern buisnisman aren't 80-ties suit wearing cigar munching types it's Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs guys, hope this roumor turns out to be true...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by sdp

The title to me says that WB has no confidence in Superman, he doesn't even get top billing in the movie. This is no longer a Superman sequel as far as I'm concerned and it's more of a team up movie that leads into Justice League. I still remember when it was announced they said it'd be Man of Steel 2 with Batman guest starring but that he wouldn't have a big role. With this new title we can expect him to be as important as Superman. Hopefully Superman does get a sequel eventually after JL,

It's very head-scratching, especially when MoS made SO much money. Batman to come before Superman in the title kind of implies that he is more important than Sups. I love Batman just as much as the next guy but it's like DC is not even trying with their other superheroes. DC has so many superheroes that have potential to rival Marvel. If you look at the Flash who is probably the most lighthearted of DC's lineup, he could easily make a lot of money in box office, just like Iron Man.

[DarkLightDragon]

I seem to recall someone saying that while MOS did make some profit, it just didn't make the amount DC was hoping for.

[NinjaPug]

Former Deadline founder Nikki Finke has been known as a hugely reliable source of movie news for years. She left Deadline unceremoniously last year and launched her own site. She has just dropped a big reveal regarding the upcoming slate of Warner Bros/DC Comics movies that confirms a lot of suspicions and lays out their plans for taking a big piece of the cinematic pie from Marvel.

Finke claims that her sources have provided the outline for when WB/DC will be scheduling their feature film slate for the next five years and that it will be formally announced at this July's San Diego Comic Con. Treat this as a reliable rumor for now, but still a rumor. According to the sources, here is DC's slate:

May 2016 – BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE
July 2016 – SHAZAM
Xmas 2016 – SANDMAN
May 2017 – JUSTICE LEAGUE
July 2017 – WONDER WOMAN
Xmas 2017 – FLASH/GREEN LANTERN Team Up
May 2018 – MAN OF STEEL 2

A lot of this fits in with what we already knew. Joseph Gordon-Levitt's SANDMAN movie was already announced, as was JUSTICE LEAGUE, but now we know how a lot of things are shaking out. Rumors of Dwayne Johnson starring in a reboot of GREEN LANTERN could still be possible, or maybe he is actually starring in 2016's SHAZAM. Gal Gadot looks to be getting her solo film and a true MAN OF STEEL sequel to cap it off. Rumors also included a possible METAL MEN and SUICIDE SQUAD film but no mention of a Green Arrow film.

Finke also gave her source's more detailed reason for the delay on BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and it seems to keep with what we all thought.

Like Marvel’s The Avengers, there will be cameos of superheroes for future installments. The cameos will include the already known Cyborg and Flash. Green Lantern [not played by Ryan Reynolds, thank god] may be introduced. And Aquaman will be seen in the Justice League movie. Problem is, Warner Bros Pictures was still negotiating with the actors for those cameos and future roles, meaning major contracts for multiple JL/character films to follow. The studio didn’t want to move forward until they had more of this secure so they held off starting production for a few months. Seemingly simple reason, but the implications are pretty darn huge.”

This is huge news because if you look at the break down, there are up to 3 DC films a couple of those years. That is definite one up on Marvel, but the question remains how good the quality will be. Here's hoping that all of the silence we have been hearing from the studio up until now has been due to careful planning and consideration on how to make all these movies the right way.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/wb-r...s-and-more-127

[CyberCubed]

All those years and no Batman solo film? I highly doubt that since by then the Nolan trilogy will be ancient history.

No way can they pass up Batman in Gotham against his rogues.

[Leofan26]

Bleh, I don't like how they are trying to fit in as many super heroes in this thing as possible, it's just screaming train wreck to me.

Why not just call it Justice League instead? It'd make more sense wouldn't it?


Why no Robin yet? He's a fan favorite too

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leofan26

Why no Robin yet? He's a fan favorite too

Because Dan Didio hates him?