Turtle symbolism for new film

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

This is deep level stuff and to brush it off as OH THEY JUST FORGET TO REMOVE IT FROM THE LEAK SCRIPT PARTS is bull.

And I think you give these people more credit than they're worth, bay is a hack, all he cares about is satiating his giant hard on for the military, it's not going to be deep it's going to be loud...

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Pondslider

In this movie the turtles symbolize giant transforming robots. And Michael Bay symbolizes man's inhumanity to man.

O god lol.. I knew it was only a matter of time before this thread digressed into meaningless nonsense like this. There are plenty of other threads for you to kick and scream over Michael Bay..

Originally Posted by GeneralTragg

And I think you give these people more credit than they're worth, bay is a hack, all he cares about is satiating his giant hard on for the military, it's not going to be deep it's going to be loud...

And I think these people are worth way more than you give them credit for. I think that just bc you don't enjoy Bays films and think he's a " hack" means jack snot to people like Sam and I. And next time you see him " bc you seem to know him so well".. tell him I said keep up the good work lol. Forget about Liebesman.. It's not his movie anyways so why even remind you that it actually is lol. I like my movies loud and entertaining. I don't wanna pay 11 bucks to take a snooze ya know. Even though you seem to be intentionally ignoring all of the possible signs "literally" that give you reason to believe we could get a rich back story, mythology etc. Rather than participating in an intelligent discussion posters like you want to turn this into another " I hate Michael Bay he has explosions " thread. I guess it's asking for to much now. My apologies.

[Kanon]

I think it´s just a random tribal.
Mikey thought it looks cool and one of his brothers (didn`t think Splinter would make such stuff) made it.

On the mikey-costume picture you can see it a little clearer, but not his forearm.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by GeneralTragg

And I think you give these people more credit than they're worth, bay is a hack, all he cares about is satiating his giant hard on for the military, it's not going to be deep it's going to be loud...

it is true and i agree with this


Remember Bay and co are the ones who changed Bumblebee from a bug to a camaro because a bug is not a "cool" car

now don't get me wrong i love camaro Bee, but there really was no reason to change him other than money talks...and bays roots are in car commercials


Bay and Co also gaves us the Twins...The most controversial Characters in film since Jar Jar Binks...Characters Bay himself admits he loves over Prime and the Others . that he wanted to keep in the franchise

[Glados]

Originally Posted by AlphaAF

Deeper mythology, plays into a legacy angle. I'm all for it, but that aspect to the designs might've been dropped. I didn't see tats in the trailer, and even in the promotional art in my sig I don't see them either

Dang, you're right! The tattoo's are gone, just like the shell bridges we can see on some of the turtles in the concepts. Goes to show that one shouldn't assume concept art or early merch is 100% representative of the final product. Good news for me tho, I didn't like the tats (just added to the clutter) and I'm glad they're erased.

[Glados]

Wait... now I'm unsure. Looking at the gif where Mike tightens his bandanna or something and I'm not sure if I'm seeing something on his shoulder there... Anyone else seeing things? The tattoo might still be there, just smaller and more subtle.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I think it´s just a random tribal.
Mikey thought it looks cool and one of his brothers (didn`t think Splinter would make such stuff) made it.

On the mikey-costume picture you can see it a little clearer, but not his forearm.

http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/up...l-530x1024.jpg

In the Concept he has both Shoulder bicep and Forearm in the Its just a mask scene you can make out the line of the bicep and shoulder tattoo but not his forearm (different angle?) And again IN the the scene where he puts his mask on but again the forearm is covered or a weird angle to see.

Originally Posted by Glados

Dang, you're right! The tattoo's are gone, just like the shell bridges we can see on some of the turtles in the concepts. Goes to show that one shouldn't assume concept art or early merch is 100% representative of the final product. Good news for me tho, I didn't like the tats (just added to the clutter) and I'm glad they're erased.

He definitely has the Bicep and shoulder tattoo

Originally Posted by Glados

Wait... now I'm unsure. Looking at the gif where Mike tightens his bandanna or something and I'm not sure if I'm seeing something on his shoulder there... Anyone else seeing things? The tattoo might still be there, just smaller and more subtle.

Its just alot light then in the concept which a real tattoo would be

[Chris_a_Bunga]

I am a little surprised nobody has made this connection yet, but in the TMNT Classics Volume 1 (I haven't seen any of the others, but I am sure its an opening page there too, keeping them consistent) graphic novel that IDW has out, there is a VERY similar turtle symbol on the opening page. Maybe they pulled some inspiration from those comics? Or just wanted it to be a sort of Easter egg

[pennydreadful]

On the subject of the tattoos, I definitely hadn't noticed the one on his forearm before. I'd really be interested to know whether he did them himself, or whether maybe Splinter did them for him in a more traditional style? (I'm kind of a tattoo geek LOL).

It's funny, if I were going to pick the Turtle most likely to have ink, I would've said that it'd be Raph!

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Chris_a_Bunga

I am a little surprised nobody has made this connection yet, but in the TMNT Classics Volume 1 (I haven't seen any of the others, but I am sure its an opening page there too, keeping them consistent) graphic novel that IDW has out, there is a VERY similar turtle symbol on the opening page. Maybe they pulled some inspiration from those comics? Or just wanted it to be a sort of Easter egg

Ding Ding Ding!!! Exactly the kind of post I was waiting for! Thank you for finding this! Now I definitely think this film will pull from the IDW series. Now I want to read everything IDW lol. I've only read a few myself which is a bad idea bc missing or skipping anything causes a lot of confusion imo. Great find dude

[tmntmikey23]

i like the sign on mikey and the turtles it makes the turtles more cooler to me

[ThatMarvelousGuy]

Leo also has that same tattoo on his forearm.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Ding Ding Ding!!! Exactly the kind of post I was waiting for! Thank you for finding this! Now I definitely think this film will pull from the IDW series. Now I want to read everything IDW lol. I've only read a few myself which is a bad idea bc missing or skipping anything causes a lot of confusion imo. Great find dude

I'd noticed it too but brushed it off as coincidental. It's similar true but the likelihood of this movie pulling anything from IDW is so remote it's not worth giving serious consideration.

Not to mention that if in the unlikely event they did take things from that series then wouldn't it be just like the stuff they've pulled from the Fred Wolf show? Like making the questionable decision to include characters like Vernon and change them to the point you wonder...well why bother.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by ThatMarvelousGuy

Leo also has that same tattoo on his forearm.

Until we know more, my headcanon is that Leo's tat is an ancient Japanese haiku.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I'd noticed it too but brushed it off as coincidental. It's similar true but the likelihood of this movie pulling anything from IDW is so remote it's not worth giving serious consideration.

Not to mention that if in the unlikely event they did take things from that series then wouldn't it be just like the stuff they've pulled from the Fred Wolf show? Like making the questionable decision to include characters like Vernon and change them to the point you wonder...well why bother.

Well i think they are pulling from all different iterations. I've noticed a few things that could be influenced by IDW. The stuff that Chris just pointed out.. the scroll could be IDW related.. The way they do Aprils dad could be IDWish.. Plus the fact that Kevin Eastman writes for IDW and has consulted Liebesman for the Film. I think one of the interviews " ill try to find it" Liebesman said he asked Eastman about the Mythology and where he was going with the story. So i think it is very likely we'll get some influence from IDW in this new iteration. So far I've seen a little bit of everything. I will say one thing.. i cant wait for this damn movie to come out so we'd just friggin know already. I know it's all discussion and everything but im tired of these question marks burning in my head lol. It's been nonstop for 5 years now. I want it to be over with already.

[jestermon]

I'm pretty sure it's just a cool turtle symbol don't think it's that involved.

[Chris_a_Bunga]

That image I posted from the comics was actually pre IDW (still Mirage), but just re released from IDW. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/161...pf_rd_i=507846

I don't think they should have tatoos in the movie though, Donnie has the symbol on his mask.. I think it would be color as a decoration like that not a full tattoo. We'll see though hard to make any assumptions about this movie at the current time... it is fun though haha

[Stugehen]

It definitely serves as a promotional logo for the movie. But I'm of the opinion that it will be referenced in the movie in some fashion. Maybe a symbol created by Splinter for the TMNT family. Or it could be related to some kappa lore that the narrative draws from. Perhaps they do take some IDW influence with some reincarnation.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by Stugehen

It definitely serves as a promotional logo for the movie. But I'm of the opinion that it will be referenced in the movie in some fashion. Maybe a symbol created by Splinter for the TMNT family. Or it could be related to some kappa lore that the narrative draws from. Perhaps they do take some IDW influence with some reincarnation.

I agree. 69 more days