Pic of Splinter/Shredder

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

That Splinter looks AWESOME but way different from the action figure so I'm not sure what to think...

What I think is that we got screwed. (Mostly being tongue-in-cheek here, don't get offended anyone!)

[Zulithe]

Maybe Splinter will appear as both versions in the film? He doesn't have to look the exact same the entire movie. He can easily switch robes and untie his hair, then he'd look about like that concept art.

What I will say is that if they don't use that concept art AT ALL for the film then the people calling the shots on which designs to pick have no f*****g clue what they are doing. Choosing something simply because it's different is bull you should pick what looks and works BEST.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Maybe Splinter will appear as both versions in the film? He doesn't have to look the exact same the entire movie. He can easily switch robes and untie his hair, then he'd look about like that concept art.

What I will say is that if they don't use that concept art AT ALL for the film then the people calling the shots on which designs to pick have no f*****g clue what they are doing. Choosing something simply because it's different is bull you should pick what looks and works BEST.

Tell me about it.

Spoiler:

[MrTMNT2012]

See, those designs look fantastic but haven't been translated well on film (at least from what we've seen so far...)

[Pondslider]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Then there is the full on Fu Man Shu mustache and beard combo, added with a top knot.

And the turtle jewelry he's wearing for some reason.

[Bry]

See, the issue I have with these designs seems to follow a specific kind of "taste" across the board - everything and everyone has to be bigger, more extreme, and more blatant. The Turtles have to be giants bogged down with layers of "expressive" custom gear, Splinter needs to look like a total stereotype with the fu manchu and the topknot, and Shredder goes from being a deadly ninja with some pieces of bladed armour to essentially a knife-covered Iron Man knockoff, to the point where he's got a cape made of blades.

(The initial Splinter design posted here actually looks terrific, but clearly they've ditched that look for something far worse.)

TMNT has always had ridiculousness at its core. The title itself owns it, and for a purpose. But at its best, it's also shown surprising amounts of restraint and subtlety. There's nothing remotely subtle about these designs. They're loud and garish, for the sake of being loud and garish. And in some cases (IMO) they seem to completely miss the point of these characters and their appeal.

[slingtheory]

^nuff said

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Then there is the full on Fu Man Shu mustache and beard combo, added with a top knot.

the top knot that is made up from the fur on top of his head. The fur. Why? Just why?

[sh3llshocked]

Originally Posted by Bry

See, the issue I have with these designs seems to follow a specific kind of "taste" across the board - everything and everyone has to be bigger, more extreme, and more blatant. The Turtles have to be giants bogged down with layers of "expressive" custom gear, Splinter needs to look like a total stereotype with the fu manchu and the topknot, and Shredder goes from being a deadly ninja with some pieces of bladed armour to essentially a knife-covered Iron Man knockoff, to the point where he's got a cape made of blades.

(The initial Splinter design posted here actually looks terrific, but clearly they've ditched that look for something far worse.)

TMNT has always had ridiculousness at its core. The title itself owns it, and for a purpose. But at its best, it's also shown surprising amounts of restraint and subtlety. There's nothing remotely subtle about these designs. They're loud and garish, for the sake of being loud and garish. And in some cases (IMO) they seem to completely miss the point of these characters and their appeal.

As much as I am excited for this movie, and even though I think I will enjoy it once it comes out... I have to completely agree with you. I just wish everything was as simple as, for my preference, the '87 cartoon. It doesnt have to be, all of them, only wearing red masks like the comic, but I dont really feel that all this overabundance of size, accessories, facial detail is really needed.

I sure hope in the next few weeks a full trailer comes out that can really showcase what this movie is all about, and maybe then it will all make more sense...I Hope!

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Tell me about it.

Spoiler:

http://i.imgur.com/n42MVT2.jpg?1

That's so overdesigned and ****** that you can't even make out what is half ot the stuff that he's wearing, also welcome back...

[Glados]

I'm kinda okay with most of the characters/creature designs when I disregard what they are wearing, but then... Jeeze, who dressed these guys up?! There's too much of everything! Splinter is the most okay one (tho I prefer the simpler style in the concept art), the turtles are varying degrees of messy and out dated and Shredder... particularly not liking what's going on with his lower body half! He BETTER be an utrom if this is what the design will actually be in the movie, otherwise the mecha-legs are just so out of place!

On a side note: The turtle marquette's (which we see better photo's of in the book) look amazing and incredibly detailed, very well crafted!

[sh3llshocked]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

That's so overdesigned and ****** that you can't even make out what is half ot the stuff that he's wearing, also welcome back...

I dont see how William Fichter's character could possibly be in that suit. It looks huge! Just looking at the picture with nothing else around him, it looks like the person would have to be Henry Cavill to fill it.

I was also trying to make out the text to the right of Shredder and it looks like it might have some info for the movie, wish we could see it all.

[RedRocBoy]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

Raph looks so Badass. They all do! I can't wait to see these characters on the big screen kicking butt again. It has literally been the most agonizing wait for this film.. UHH JUST GET HERE ALREADY!!

Edit: Why can't any of these friggin people take a picture with the page FLAT, showing the entire page? Is it just me or does that annoy anyone else? lol

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NiuPlGsFWG...History+12.jpg
FLATTEN OUT THE DAMN PICTURE!!!! lol

I feel your pain bro. It's these days are dragging.

[MastahShredder]

Splinter looks awesome but unfortunately these are old concept drawings. They both likely look much different after tweaking. Still don't like all the stuff going on with Shredder, it's just a bit too much but I'll wait to see the final product.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Bry

See, the issue I have with these designs seems to follow a specific kind of "taste" across the board - everything and everyone has to be bigger, more extreme, and more blatant. The Turtles have to be giants bogged down with layers of "expressive" custom gear, Splinter needs to look like a total stereotype with the fu manchu and the topknot, and Shredder goes from being a deadly ninja with some pieces of bladed armour to essentially a knife-covered Iron Man knockoff, to the point where he's got a cape made of blades.

(The initial Splinter design posted here actually looks terrific, but clearly they've ditched that look for something far worse.)

TMNT has always had ridiculousness at its core. The title itself owns it, and for a purpose. But at its best, it's also shown surprising amounts of restraint and subtlety. There's nothing remotely subtle about these designs. They're loud and garish, for the sake of being loud and garish. And in some cases (IMO) they seem to completely miss the point of these characters and their appeal.

Exactly.

There is nothing subtle about this production.

Shredder. In a battle mech bladed power suit.

X-TREEEEEEEEEME!

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Exactly.

There is nothing subtle about this production.

Shredder. In a battle mech bladed power suit.

X-TREEEEEEEEEME!

because Bay and company will never let the nineties go...

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Originally Posted by Bry

See, the issue I have with these designs seems to follow a specific kind of "taste" across the board - everything and everyone has to be bigger, more extreme, and more blatant. The Turtles have to be giants bogged down with layers of "expressive" custom gear, Splinter needs to look like a total stereotype with the fu manchu and the topknot, and Shredder goes from being a deadly ninja with some pieces of bladed armour to essentially a knife-covered Iron Man knockoff, to the point where he's got a cape made of blades.

(The initial Splinter design posted here actually looks terrific, but clearly they've ditched that look for something far worse.)

TMNT has always had ridiculousness at its core. The title itself owns it, and for a purpose. But at its best, it's also shown surprising amounts of restraint and subtlety. There's nothing remotely subtle about these designs. They're loud and garish, for the sake of being loud and garish. And in some cases (IMO) they seem to completely miss the point of these characters and their appeal.

Agreed. I'm excited for this movie, but this has always made me sort of 'iffy'. I would've preferred a much more traditional approach with this movie, especially with the designs, but that alone won't turn me off. I've come to accept this take on the turtles, and after I accepted it, I've started to like it. Plus, this is only one version of the turtles, as I've said. It won't ruin other incarnations, so that's why I try to stay open to future versions before I fully experience them. That's when I make my final conclusion.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Maybe Splinter will appear as both versions in the film? He doesn't have to look the exact same the entire movie. He can easily switch robes and untie his hair, then he'd look about like that concept art.

That could've been cool - like if he looked more like his concept art when he was younger. The back view that we've seen in the trailer and what I suspect he'll look like based on his action figure is still not a good end result though.

Sometimes an uncharitable part of my brain wonders whether they made all of these additions to Splinter to try to compensate for white Shredder.

Originally Posted by Glados

I'm kinda okay with most of the characters/creature designs when I disregard what they are wearing, but then... Jeeze, who dressed these guys up?! There's too much of everything! Splinter is the most okay one (tho I prefer the simpler style in the concept art), the turtles are varying degrees of messy and out dated and Shredder... particularly not liking what's going on with his lower body half! He BETTER be an utrom if this is what the design will actually be in the movie, otherwise the mecha-legs are just so out of place!

On a side note: The turtle marquette's (which we see better photo's of in the book) look amazing and incredibly detailed, very well crafted!

I actually got excited when we first saw the maquette pics, way back when... if nothing else, I'll look forward to seeing more photos of them.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

because Bay and company will never let the nineties go...

I actually think it's the other way around. I think it's some of the fans that won't let the nineties go. Bay and company seem to be "updating/changing" everything that people have been used to for years. But as the times change so will design. I don't blame people for the way they feel. But I do think that some of it is nostalgia.

Edit: FellowChucker

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I actually think it's the other way around. I think it's some of the fans that won't let the nineties go. Bay and company seem to be "updating/changing" everything that people have been used to for years. But as the times change so will design. I don't blame people for the way they feel. But I do think that some of it is nostalgia.

Edit: FellowChucker
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/o...tewartboom.gif

I don't think this is about nostagia at all but more about change for the sake of change. There's a difference between updating with the times and adding on needless additions and I would call what bay and co are doing to these characters the latter. It does bring back a lot of memories of 90s comics where every new character that was created had tons of gear and existing ones had to get an exteme new look and/or a power upgrade because... well at the time they just thought it looked cool.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I actually think it's the other way around. I think it's some of the fans that won't let the nineties go. Bay and company seem to be "updating/changing" everything that people have been used to for years. But as the times change so will design. I don't blame people for the way they feel. But I do think that some of it is nostalgia.

Gee that must be why the new cartoon and comics are so popular and well-received.

Because people are stuck in the past.

Got NOTHING to do with maybe they kinda sorta just don't like the unnecessary and bad changes/decisions the people behind this movie have made.

Nah. It's just nostalgia.