Has anyone else here never gotten into anime?

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Ninja

I think the appeal of the "boob" and "panty shots" is that a lot of the viewers are probably teenagers. Also, it is the old saying that "sex sells." When I was younger I liked the panty shots in DragonBall, but I have since grown up and realize how creepy, immature, and probably immoral it is. So I think it is called "fan service" because it is probably like this: Hey do you like Bulma? If so, hey fans, here is a shot of her panties.

So it is basically just a way to corrupt the audience, and a cheap way to get some people to watch.

A lot of anime is designed for teens and adults, and I have also read that Japan has more relaxed standards for what kids watch.

That is just my explanation, since you asked.

Again, with corruption and immorality. I'm no fan of the fan service, that's for sure, and I'm very picky about which animes I watch (cos 95% are trash according to my probably equally trashy standards), but seriously... If anyone is corrupted by cartoon panties*, they were already mentally ill to begin with.

* "corrupted" in this case refers to them basically going on a raping spree, not fapping over it, which obviously is more than okay. Hey, whatever, I don't judge.

[Storm Eagle]

My interest in anime is rather limited as well. I'm a fan of Voltron (aka GoLion/Dairugger) and Digimon and own all the DVDs. I've watched other anime series on Netflix such as Spice and Wolf and Sekirei, and checked out other series like Dragon Drive and Wolf's Rain. While I might have enjoyed them to some extent, I'm not much of an anime guy in general. I do like the art style, however.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Ninja

Hey, that is my personality, and I'm not going to change it. I watch TV and I know what is out there. You are entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion. I thought my post was pretty mild. No one can say there is anything good about drawing an anime girl's panties while she is wearing them. Sure, they might be nice to look at, but if you really think about it, it is exploiting women. A drawing isn't a real person, but this does remind me of Jessica Rabbit from the Roger Rabbit movie. She's not bad, she's just drawn that way. The imaginations of our mind can be expressed through entertainment.

Dude, I didn't say cartoon panties would corrupt someone, and if I didn't. I didn't mean to. In my opinion, anime panties can be a gate way into something much more intense, like real p0rnography. Now, that is corrupt.

As for "fapping," I consider that a person's right, and a health decision. Anyways dude, lol, I didn't want to get back to a weird conversation on here. I doubt I will be logging on to this message boards in the future. Too much drama fro my liking, and nobody really understands me. If you met me in real life, I'm a very easy going and nice person. I probably watch a lot of the same movies as you, and play a lot of the same video games as you, assuming you play video games. I'm an average American male (I know you're not American, right?) and I really don't stand out from anyone else. I'm just noticing that TV likes to push the limits.

Dang......

And I thought my post was pretty mild. Didn't mean to upset, sorry!

And porn isn't corrupt. Watching other people having sex has been a part of life since forever, before movies existed. Try to ban it, and it will still exist, the government will just waste money trying to ban it. It's a normal part of life for most people (yes, I'd dare say most people watch porn at least occasionally).

But I don't wanna derail this more than I already have, so I'll just shut up about it :p

[Peanut]

What the hell are you guys even talking about in here? Dragonball Z? At least have the self respect to watch One Piece, you slobs.

[sdp]

American animation and Anime have as much crap as they do quality, they both have their pros and cons. We all have preferences.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its so difficult to get into anime where even respected shows go for boob or panty shots on the female characters. Can someone explain to me what the appeal of this is?

I'm all for well designed female characters, but I don't need to see the camera closing it on body parts for no reason. No wonder why anime gets such a bad rep.

While anime is certainly known for fanservice, you mustn't forget that "fanservice" is all over the place in American and western media in general as well. Look at House, per example. How many times have we seen close up shots of Cuddy's rear, or House making remarks about it? The thing is, anime consists of animated drawings, something which makes the whole fanservice thing stands out more since western animation rarely depicts animated characters in sexual situations. Although, it's not uncommon to come across female superheroes dressed in suggestive outfits. And if you're looking for a video game example, then what about Lara Croft from Tomb Raider? If that's not fanservice then what is it?

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by Peanut

What the hell are you guys even talking about in here? Dragonball Z? At least have the self respect to watch One Piece, you slobs.

I like One Piece, it's my all time favorite Anime
It has no romance and rare fan service, if your against that type like me I'd suggest that one. It's more about comedy / adventure, has good character development and some amazing arcs.

I'd give Adventure / comedy Anime a shot, that type hardly has fan service.

I don't know why your only searching for Harem type Anime, course you'll find it if your looking for that. You have a bunch of different kinds of Anime besides that type, older or not.

I'm with yah on the fan service thing, makes me sick! So I try to ignore that stuff as much as possible

[RaphAndDonnie]

I'm not really into anime. I can only list about a handful of animes I'm into like Pokemon, FMA, Silver Spoon, DBZ Kai, My Bride Is A Mermaid, Air Master, Girl's High, Half-Broken Music Box, K and select episodes of Naruto and Hetalia but that's it. I'm also not really into more popular ones, like Death Note or One Piece and really the only reason I started watching Naruto and Hetalia was because it was recommended to me.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Peanut

What the hell are you guys even talking about in here? Dragonball Z? At least have the self respect to watch One Piece, you slobs.

It's been a while since I've watched that. Never got to finish the Fishmen arc. As for the manga, I'm still at the beginning of Skypiea.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I've never been an anime fan myself but I respect it for what it is. I have a friend that really loves it and I mean big time. There are a few that I do like though. I love Death Note a LOT and I love what I have seen of Hellsing and Full Metal Alchemist and Cowboy Bebop. I also love Miyazaki's films but I'm not sure if they actually qualify as anime in the sense that we are talking about. I've always felt like anime was a lot like jazz. It is an acquired taste and for those that do acquire the taste for it they are fiercely loyal to it and consider it superior to all other forms of music or animation. I can stomach the stuff that is a lot more "westernized" than the stuff that is much more "japanese" I guess would be the way I would explain it. My main quibble is that I've always felt like it was some times more style than substance. I've just felt that more time was put in to the actual animation and the action than in to the stories and the characters.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Prowler

It's been a while since I've watched that. Never got to finish the Fishmen arc. As for the manga, I'm still at the beginning of Skypiea.

I think the Arlong Park arc is actually where I fell in love with the anime. The one scene where Luffy gives Nami his hat and then everyone strolls up to Arlong's joint all fierce. It's been gravy for me since then.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I think the Arlong Park arc is actually where I fell in love with the anime. The one scene where Luffy gives Nami his hat and then everyone strolls up to Arlong's joint all fierce. It's been gravy for me since then.

That's the same for most, actually. Although, unlike many people, I did like all of the early OP arcs, even though they have not aged that well compared to the latter ones. But yes, Arlong's arc was great and made me really hate the villains and pity Nami. It's rare for a work of fiction to connect me emotionally with the characters.

What are your favorite villains? Mine are Crocodile and Buggy.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Icebot

Not sure if these count as anime but I like Mega Man ('94), Avatar The Last Airbender and The Legend Of Korra.

None of these are anime.

I have a lot of anime I really like. Not gonna lie, I'm a sucker for a lot of 80's and 90's shonen. My shelf has the entirety of Dragonball Z and Dragonball GT [forgive me, I found the complete series for sale at $23], still working on Dragonball, some Pokémon, YuYu Hakusho, Yugioh Duel Monsters, and some of Dragon Drive's manga. Transformers Armada, every Digimon series, Ranma 1/2, and Medabots occupy my Amazon wishlist. I really wish Zoids Chaotic Century had a box set release, though. I'd murder for it.

I also really enjoyed Inuyasha [my guilty pleasure], Ginga Nagareboshi Gin, Case Closed/Detective Conan, Rurouni Kenshin, and Wolf's Rain. I'm interested in and been needing to get around to watching Serial Experiments Lain, Trigun, Gurren Lagann, and Cowboy Bebop.

Aaaaand for the record I prefer dubs to subs. I don't like having to read my screen since I read very slowly. Even if the dub of an anime is known to be bad, I will probably still watch it over the Japanese version just because I'm a big multitasker. So sorry to any Dragonball, Digimon, or Yugioh sub loyalists [except not sorry, the dubs are way better get the **** over it].

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Prowler

That's the same for most, actually. Although, unlike many people, I did like all of the early OP arcs, even though they have not aged that well compared to the latter ones. But yes, Arlong's arc was great and made me really hate the villains and pity Nami. It's rare for a work of fiction to connect me emotionally with the characters.

What are your favorite villains? Mine are Crocodile and Buggy.

I like all the early arcs too. Looking back on them and revisiting them paints it all with a lot of innocence, which I think is the best thing about One Piece. It's just constantly escalating. Maybe there's a fork here or there, but for the most part the universe, the characters and the narrative continue to grow and grow, which is entirely unlike a lot of other shonen anime, wherein the entire thing feels like it's running on a never-ending and un-evolving cycle.

Generally I really dislike the One Piece villains. They're built up in ways that make you hate them for such a long stretch of time that you're begging for Luffy to put their lights out by the end. That said I really like Buggy as well, and for some reason I really dug Kaku from the Water Seven arc.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its so difficult to get into anime where even respected shows go for boob or panty shots on the female characters. Can someone explain to me what the appeal of this is?

I'm all for well designed female characters, but I don't need to see the camera closing it on body parts for no reason. No wonder why anime gets such a bad rep.

What do you think of the naughty tentacle stuff?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I like all the early arcs too. Looking back on them and revisiting them paints it all with a lot of innocence, which I think is the best thing about One Piece. It's just constantly escalating. Maybe there's a fork here or there, but for the most part the universe, the characters and the narrative continue to grow and grow, which is entirely unlike a lot of other shonen anime, wherein the entire thing feels like it's running on a never-ending and un-evolving cycle.

Generally I really dislike the One Piece villains. They're built up in ways that make you hate them for such a long stretch of time that you're begging for Luffy to put their lights out by the end. That said I really like Buggy as well, and for some reason I really dug Kaku from the Water Seven arc.

One Piece is the only of the big 3 shonen that I follow. I've watched 12 Naruto episodes at best but never bothered to keep on watching it. As for Bleach, I haven't watched a single episode or read a single chapter of it in my entire life.

Yeah, that's shonen being shonen, and indeed it takes the double amount of episodes/chapters to get something done with in OP that could have just get done in a few episodes.

Other than Crocodile and Buggy, there really aren't many villains I like. Unless Smoker applies despite being a Marine, technically making him a good guy. And I guess I like Rob Lucci and Mihawk. And Bon-Chan doesn't count as a villain anymore, obviously. Gotta love that dude.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by RaphAndDonnie

I'm not really into anime. I can only list about a handful of animes I'm into like Pokemon, FMA, Silver Spoon, DBZ Kai, My Bride Is A Mermaid, Air Master, Girl's High, Half-Broken Music Box, K and select episodes of Naruto and Hetalia but that's it. I'm also not really into more popular ones, like Death Note or One Piece and really the only reason I started watching Naruto and Hetalia was because it was recommended to me.

How could I have forgotten Death Note?! *slaps forehead*

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

None of these are anime.

I have a lot of anime I really like. Not gonna lie, I'm a sucker for a lot of 80's and 90's shonen. My shelf has the entirety of Dragonball Z and Dragonball GT [forgive me, I found the complete series for sale at $23], still working on Dragonball, some Pokémon, YuYu Hakusho, Yugioh Duel Monsters, and some of Dragon Drive's manga. Transformers Armada, every Digimon series, Ranma 1/2, and Medabots occupy my Amazon wishlist. I really wish Zoids Chaotic Century had a box set release, though. I'd murder for it.

I also really enjoyed Inuyasha [my guilty pleasure], Ginga Nagareboshi Gin, Case Closed/Detective Conan, Rurouni Kenshin, and Wolf's Rain. I'm interested in and been needing to get around to watching Serial Experiments Lain, Trigun, Gurren Lagann, and Cowboy Bebop.

Aaaaand for the record I prefer dubs to subs. I don't like having to read my screen since I read very slowly. Even if the dub of an anime is known to be bad, I will probably still watch it over the Japanese version just because I'm a big multitasker. So sorry to any Dragonball, Digimon, or Yugioh sub loyalists [except not sorry, the dubs are way better get the **** over it].

Hey Net, don't apologise for owning GT - I do too, again, purely because Vegeta was in it and I am the worst kind of fangirl. Sorry, not sorry!

Wolf's Rain is great but

Spoiler:

that ending! I love the anime, but I find I mostly rewatch the first episodes because I can't deal with the sad parts!

Rurouni Kenshin and Samurai X are good too, though Kenshin does have a few too many filler episodes sometimes.

I loved Inu Yasha but stopped watching after Season 3 due to time restraints, and starting to get a little frustrated with the plot.

Spoiler:

I really would've liked it if they'd spent a bit more time on Inu Yasha's demon side - it was my favourite part of Season 2, probably my favourite batch of episodes actually... it would've been ace to have seen more of it. Also I was never really happy with the ending, cuz I just don't ship IYxKagome.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Hey Net, don't apologise for owning GT - I do too, again, purely because Vegeta was in it and I am the worst kind of fangirl. Sorry, not sorry!

Bah, I'm a huge Vegeta fan too and the way he's written in GT is the biggest reason why I dislike it. All his Z development went down the damn drain. He had a few good moments in it, but everything else is awful.

Especially the haircut. I will forever be butthurt over it.

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I loved Inu Yasha but stopped watching after Season 3 due to time restraints, and starting to get a little frustrated with the plot.

Spoiler:

I really would've liked it if they'd spent a bit more time on Inu Yasha's demon side - it was my favourite part of Season 2, probably my favourite batch of episodes actually... it would've been ace to have seen more of it. Also I was never really happy with the ending, cuz I just don't ship IYxKagome.

Yeah, Inuyasha drags on a lot. To be honest, the monsters of the week were what I liked the most about it, alongside some of the filler episodes. Say what you will about the existence of filler in general, Inuyasha and Dragonball had hilarious filler episodes.

Spoiler:

And not gonna lie, I was on team InuKag. **** Kikyou with a hot poker pls.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Bah, I'm a huge Vegeta fan too and the way he's written in GT is the biggest reason why I dislike it. All his Z development went down the damn drain. He had a few good moments in it, but everything else is awful.

Especially the haircut. I will forever be butthurt over it.

I'm more bothered by his continuing relationship with Bulma - I never could understand that relationship. I understand she was a more fleshed-out character in DB but as I've only watched DBZ and GT, she just always came off as intensely annoying. My headcanon is that he just paired up with her to carry on the Saiyan bloodline. (I know, I'm an awful person. )

Re Inu Yasha, personally:

Spoiler:

I don't think he should have ended up with either one of them. That being said, it IS Rumiko Takahashi - it is a little silly of me to complain too much about the romance.

Also, Shippou annoyed the living bejesus out of me.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I'm more bothered by his continuing relationship with Bulma - I never could understand that relationship. I understand she was a more fleshed-out character in DB but as I've only watched DBZ and GT, she just always came off as intensely annoying. My headcanon is that he just paired up with her to carry on the Saiyan bloodline. (I know, I'm an awful person. )

Yeah, she's more interesting in DB. Trunks always described his getting with her as a bit of a one-night-stand kinda thing, but the continued relationship might have been because of Trunks, you know? Vegeta doesn't know how to express emotions properly so it's hard to tell with him, but by the Buu saga it was obvious that he cared about her. I will admit it's one of the harder aspects of Vegeta's personality for me to crack. I like to think part of his initial attraction to her was her innate aggression; I feel Saiyans probably find those qualities attractive because they desire aggression in their offspring.

****, my Vegeta roleplayer side is showing, isn't it.

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Re Inu Yasha, personally:

Spoiler:

I don't think he should have ended up with either one of them. That being said, it IS Rumiko Takahashi - it is a little silly of me to complain too much about the romance.

Also, Shippou annoyed the living bejesus out of me.

Spoiler:

Pfft, yeah, if it wasn't obvious from the author and the writing that one of those two ships wasn't going to be endgame, I would have picked a third option myself. Knowing me, probably Inuyasha and like, Kouga or something weird because I find that sort of thing amusing. Who said I had to take shipping seriously.

Also sob I loved Shippou. He was so cute.