Can Shredder perform martial arts with his Armor?

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Alrighty then. You sure are defensive about this awful friggin' movie.

"Will Shredder do martial arts?" Yes, it's a movie. "Is that costume design the biggest pile of cluster-f*ck ever put to film?" Absolutely it is. "Would anyone wearing that suit realistically be able to even move, let alone do martial arts?" Nope. "Will it require the absolute limit of CGI fakery to make the whole thing look even a tiny bit plausible?" You betcha.

There's the entire "discussion" in a nutshell. What else needs to be said about it?

I'm new and know nothing. You're old and wise. You're pretty defensive of me being defensive of this movie. Ha When have I defended this movie in this thread? I asked questions. Can this armor, if a mech suit, not do traditional martial arts? If you don't think so, can you backup your claims with some evidence? If its not a mech suit then YES it is a stupid idea. That is all. If you don't care why reply? It is because you're just like everyone on this forum. You like to debate, talk, and discuss tmnt. But when you go around hurling boring humor and cliche arguments, then I am going to counter. I get why you don't like the new movie or anything about it. I have never said once you shouldn't dislike this film. I don't care about that. My questions never got answered. That is all.

[trikuza]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

Bro...you can't drop a statement like that and bounce. Details pls...and how did you see it?

Eric Sacchs is talking to a tall, dark shadowy figure. The guy standing in the shadows looks tall enough to fill the shredder armor. Eric Sacchs tells him that he is taking his armor to the next level.

[Leo656]

I honestly thought I did answer your questions. At least in my last post. I guess I didn't. Oh well.

Looking back to the original post you seem to have taken issue with, I'll try harder: Yes, Shredder could *conceivably* do all that stuff you're asking about, because it's a movie. That doesn't mean it won't look cheesy and fake, which it probably will. Fair enough? Did I "get it right" this time? Yeesh.

And it's less to do with you being "new" and more to do with the tone your posts seem to have. Nobody gets anywhere around here by snarking the "vets". No, it isn't fair. This place is the Lord of the Flies of TMNT forums. "Wakka wakka boring arguments, your jokes are lame" ain't no way to make friends. Just trying to help you out, before you accidentally tick off one of the REAL assh*les around here. I'm the nice one.

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I honestly thought I did answer your questions. At least in my last post. I guess I didn't. Oh well.

Looking back to the original post you seem to have taken issue with, I'll try harder: Yes, Shredder could *conceivably* do all that stuff you're asking about, because it's a movie. That doesn't mean it won't look cheesy and fake, which it probably will. Fair enough? Did I "get it right" this time? Yeesh.

And it's less to do with you being "new" and more to do with the tone your posts seem to have. Nobody gets anywhere around here by snarking the "vets". No, it isn't fair. This place is the Lord of the Flies of TMNT forums. "Wakka wakka boring arguments, your jokes are lame" ain't no way to make friends. Just trying to help you out, before you accidentally tick off one of the REAL assh*les around here. I'm the nice one.

Well Some vets including the banned Elecric_Sheep was quit nice to me. I understood vets busting my b&*%$, I have no issue with that. My tone is what the other person reads into it. I was just asking a question. That is all. Nothing more, or less. Call me names, tell me anything you like. As long as that question I asked is answered in the manner I have raised it. Glad to know you did answer it. Its a movie! Thats all You had to say to shut me up. Plus Nash is a bad ass dude.

[Leo656]

Glad we can come to a middle ground. Sorry it took so long. Tone is tough to read over the screen. We both probably read the other differently than how we intended to be read. Happens.

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Glad we can come to a middle ground. Sorry it took so long. Tone is tough to read over the screen. We both probably read the other differently than how we intended to be read. Happens.

That is exactly what happened. I like to be called names and stuff tho ha ha But If I hate the movie. Ill bring up your name first. Saying this guy was right on the money. This movie stunk. If not... I might just rub it in your face ha ha jk

[Leo656]

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those movies where everyone is either going to love it or hate it, for exactly the same reasons, thus ensuring there can be no middle ground or general consensus. People who love it for its new and different style will hate it for the exact same reasons, and so on. Might just end up being the most divisive and controversial TMNT product ever to exist, from the look of things.

Getting a little late in the game to win me over. Everything's the polar opposite of what I'd like. They might need to bring out the big guns and have Emilio Estevez show up in a cameo to hook me. I'll see ANYTHING that cat does.

[samxsteal]

ohOH IS THAT OROKU SAKI HMMMMM

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15539324_o.jpg

ohOH IS THAT OROKU SAKI HMMMMM

Maybe hes the one in the suit, Not Eric Sachs, Since it would make more sense.

[Matt2310]

but the eyes tho, the glowing eyes... im still not convinced there is a person in the armor... maybe utrom

[Matt2310]

found online when looking up utrom

Korobon[edit]
Korobon is an Utrom who declared himself ambassador to Earth from the Utrom Confederation. He addressed the U.N. on live television and explained what the Utroms had planned to do on Earth. He appeared in Volume 4 of the Mirage comic.

Mr. Mortu[edit]
The name is actually "Utrom" spelled backwards, Mr. Mortu is an Utrom commander (voiced by Dan Green) and one of the Utroms stranded on Earth when the Utrom criminal Ch'rell forced the prison ship transporting him to crash in feudal Japan in the 2003 series. He remains on Earth though the centuries, later stationed at the Utrom's Tokyo headquarters following World War II. He is saved from muggers by a young Hamato Yoshi and Yukio Mashimi, who discover his secret during the scuffle. He inducts both into the ranks of the Guardians, and is forced to evacuate the Tokyo facility after Mashimi betrays them to the Shredder.

In the present day, he is stationed in New York City in the TCRI building, the Utroms' New York base of operations. When Splinter is injured in the Turtles' assault on the Shredder's headquarters, Mortu has him brought to the TCRI building and cared for, unbeknownst to the Turtles. When the Turtles return to Earth from their voyage across space, it is Mortu who transmatted them home and who brings the healed Splinter to them. He shows the Turtles and Splinter the origins of the Utroms on Earth using a communal mind pod, but the experience goes terribly wrong when Baxter Stockman hacks the system and traps the Turtles and Splinter in the simulation. As the Shredder (by then revealed to be the alias of the criminal Ch'rell) and his forces destroy the building, Mortu and the Utroms transmat back to their homeworld. Before they leave, Mortu presents Splinter with gift: an orb containing memories of his master Yoshi from the Guardian archives.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

We won't see this.



We'll probably get this..

Seems that way.

That was easily my least-favourite part of The Wolverine, soooo.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...15539324_o.jpg

ohOH IS THAT OROKU SAKI HMMMMM

Scars on face. Evil looking. Kinda looks somewhat Japanese. I'd say yes!

[Leo656]

Why the Macguffin, though? Why force fans to do backflips over Eric Sachs at all, if the "real" Shredder is actually in the movie? "Just to mess with people's expectations?" I suspect that is the reason, but holy sh*t, what a bad way to build trust with your audience.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Matt2310

but the eyes tho, the glowing eyes... im still not convinced there is a person in the armor... maybe utrom

i wouldn't look to much into this..glowing eyes are kinda the thing now in movie villains

Originally Posted by Leo656

Why the Macguffin, though? Why force fans to do backflips over Eric Sachs at all, if the "real" Shredder is actually in the movie? "Just to mess with people's expectations?" I suspect that is the reason, but holy sh*t, what a bad way to build trust with your audience.

i have to agree...if this is the true shredder then why the big bold face lies (then again this is bay)

i understand wanting secrecy, but that wasnt the case here is was just bold face lying about a characters

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those movies where everyone is either going to love it or hate it, for exactly the same reasons, thus ensuring there can be no middle ground or general consensus. People who love it for its new and different style will hate it for the exact same reasons, and so on. Might just end up being the most divisive and controversial TMNT product ever to exist, from the look of things.

Getting a little late in the game to win me over. Everything's the polar opposite of what I'd like. They might need to bring out the big guns and have Emilio Estevez show up in a cameo to hook me. I'll see ANYTHING that cat does.

Ha ha that is exactly what this movie is. Paper or Plastic. No true fan is going to change their mind. I love the bickering and arguing. I have literally made a bag of popcorn and read some of the threads.

Ha ha Emilio's lunch in the breakfast club still gets me hungry.

[Leo656]

Emilio as Bebop + Charlie as Rocksteady = "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: License To Print Money"

[MastahShredder]

I've been thinking about it and if Oroku Saki is in the movie..would anyone expect him to decline something offered to him that makes him more powerful? I am assuming Sach's is obsessed with his armor and keeps making it more and more powerful. We have to remember that Saki is an opportunist, he'll take anything that will make him more powerful and more of a threat to the city and Turtles.

Just my thought about Shreddertron.

[Leo656]

This might not make sense to everyone, but I'm almost positive that I'd respond better to pretty much everything about the Shredder armor if it was something done in a sequel and not the first movie out of the box. It's a whole lot to take in all at once.

Like, if the first movie had a more grounded take, and after being defeated, he felt he had to resort to extreme escalation in the sequel. It would all just look and feel more organic. I don't know if that makes sense to anyone else.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by Leo656

This might not make sense to everyone, but I'm almost positive that I'd respond better to pretty much everything about the Shredder armor if it was something done in a sequel and not the first movie out of the box. It's a whole lot to take in all at once.

Like, if the first movie had a more grounded take, and after being defeated, he felt he had to resort to extreme escalation in the sequel. It would all just look and feel more organic. I don't know if that makes sense to anyone else.

Absolutely makes sense and I agree. Perhaps it does happen in this, but it might be too much to handle. We might see flashback scenes where Saki was defeated. I'm not sure, but if that is the route they are going, it puts my mind a LITTLE bit more at ease about this mechanical stuff.