Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

You can make a career on fun movies that won't win awards but will be enjoyed and be quite successful.

Very true... The career should be in the art of it, not the trophy. (And if someone loses the art of it then maybe it's time to bail out of the industry - which might actually lose us some, but whatever.. lol)

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Yeah, likewise I wouldn't expect a Marvel movie or any comic book film to have a decent chance at an award either. The Academy likes artsy stuff.

[Pondslider]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

If he did say something along those lines, it's a fair assessment. Bay films aren't going to win awards except MAYBE a shot at special effects.

There's nothing wrong with that. Summer blockbusters aren't really what the powers that be are looking for with the Oscars and Academy Awards and what not.

You can make a career on fun movies that won't win awards but will be enjoyed and be quite successful.

Michael Bay's movies don't get poor reviews because they aren't Oscar-bait. Nobody expects every movie to contend for Best Picture. Michael Bay's movies get poor reviews (particularly the Transformers movies) because they are excessive incomprehensible messes that more often than not are boring. Yes, it's become somewhat fashionable to criticize Michael Bay's films, but it's not without warrant at all.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Pondslider

Michael Bay's movies don't get poor reviews because they aren't Oscar-bait. Nobody expects every movie to contend for Best Picture. Michael Bay's movies get poor reviews (particularly the Transformers movies) because they are excessive incomprehensible messes that more often than not are boring. Yes, it's become somewhat fashionable to criticize Michael Bay's films, but it's not without warrant at all.

What are these people smoking? Michael Bay movies are boring? I don't think so.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

What are these people smoking? Michael Bay movies are boring? I don't think so.

Yeah, they're not. It's blatantly obvious that the critics have it in for Michael Bay. There seems to be a deeper rooted hate going on behind the scenes. He either told some smack to a critic a long time ago, and the critic got burned, or maybe he even simply stole a critic's girlfriend. Either way, I feel like it's on a personal level. And the more dough Michael Bay's movies make, the more hateful the critics get, because more or less, Michael Bay is proving the critics rants are worthless.

Now, the critics are going after his audience, saying how viewers who go see his movies are more or less dumb. And they are even lumping all Asians as a people who are easily entertained by no plots and big explosions. Maybe the audience is more smarter than the critics realize, because they did learn a long time ago what kind of movie a Michael Bay movie is, and know what to expect. A lot people do like to see fast cars, muscle bound guys and hot chicks in the movies. After all, the Fast Furious movies are now on it's 7th movie, and still kicking ass OS. Either way, I still think it's on a personal level.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Yeah, they're not. It's blatantly obvious that the critics have it in for Michael Bay. There seems to be a deeper rooted hate going on behind the scenes. He either told some smack to a critic a long time ago, and the critic got burned, or maybe he even simply stole a critic's girlfriend. Either way, I feel like it's on a personal level. And the more dough Michael Bay's movies make, the more hateful the critics get, because more or less, Michael Bay is proving the critics rants are worthless.

Now, the critics are going after his audience, saying how viewers who go see his movies are more or less dumb. And they are even lumping all Asians as a people who are easily entertained by no plots and big explosions. Maybe the audience is more smarter than the critics realize, because they did learn a long time ago what kind of movie a Michael Bay movie is, and know what to expect. A lot people do like to see fast cars, muscle bound guys and hot chicks in the movies. After all, the Fast Furious movies are now on it's 7th movie, and still kicking ass OS. Either way, I still think it's on a personal level.

Its a good thing that the movie going audience's opinions matter more then a critics. Critics are paid to watch movies.

The reason why these movies makes so much money at the box office, Is cause audience like these movies, There is a genuine love for these type of films, because, these are the type of movies you go out to the theaters for.

These are the type of movies for Parents to take there kids to see, Especially if they were parents who grew up the Transformers when they were kids.

The same thing will happen with the new TMNT movie, You'll have a new generation of kids who have Parents that grew up with the OG Turtles, They are gonna take them to see it.

[Xiewin]

I feel like even if there's a possibility that GOTG will turn out terrible, most critics would probably give it high ratings due to the fact that its marvel.

tmnt would probably get terrible ratings cause apparently critics hate anything with MB's name attached to it.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

I feel like even if there's a possibility that GOTG will turn out terrible, most critics would probably give it high ratings due to the fact that its marvel.

tmnt would probably get terrible ratings cause apparently critics hate anything with MB's name attached to it.

Sadly, this is going to be the case. And Chris Pratt tends to be a critic darling while Megan Fox is another critically hated.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

I feel like even if there's a possibility that GOTG will turn out terrible, most critics would probably give it high ratings due to the fact that its marvel.

tmnt would probably get terrible ratings cause apparently critics hate anything with MB's name attached to it.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_incredible_hulk/

Not necessarily.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

I feel like even if there's a possibility that GOTG will turn out terrible, most critics would probably give it high ratings due to the fact that its marvel.

tmnt would probably get terrible ratings cause apparently critics hate anything with MB's name attached to it.

I don't think its that critics hate bay on a personal level or anything is just his typical trademarks they don't like. That and his sometimes juvenille style. There are other guys out there making pure action fests that don't get the negative backlash bay does. The reason I think is because he's the only guy throwing stuff like quick shots of dogs humping into his work.

[Powder]

I don't know if boring is the word exactly but they're not typically thought provoking. It'll be boring if you don't like explosions & juvenile humor, which is certainly subject to bad reviews if it tries to pass itself off as anything else.

[pennydreadful]

I'm not a Bay fan, but I won't say that I've never enjoyed one of his movies (though it has been quite a long time). As far as Bay's films and their boringness or lack thereof go, it's like every other movie - it's down to what the individual likes. Just because someone finds something boring doesn't mean the subject matter itself is in fact boring.

Myself, I tend not to take critics opinions on anything too seriously - I'd rather make up my own mind.

[Sumac]

What are these people smoking? Michael Bay movies are boring?

Specifically about Transformers: incomprehensible messes, which become worse with each new project, tend to become boring, despite what colorful fluff is thrown into them. There is no sense of novelty, wonder or any kind of interest. All of them are basically parade of CGI clips with different level of comprehensibility in them.

Hate on Bay is justified somewhat, as his movies are pretty insubstantial and basically show other creators that you throw cool visual **** together, without any kind of involving story or interesting characters and still make money. A lot of money. I, personally, can't stand for it. I don't demand every single movie to have greatly elaborated story, but can they at least have interesting, not boring characters and story that has internal logic and doesn't look like it was written on a piece of napkin during morning hangover? And I guess amount of hatred shows, that the same goes for many other people.

[Leo656]

I actually think Armageddon was a really neat flick, but it definitely benefited from having a terrific cast. Sometimes, all that holds a movie together is a bunch of people who are fun to watch, and that's something a lot of Bay's recent movies hadn't had.

[TigerClaw]

So Michael Bay told the fans to "Let Them Hate", During an interview from MTV.
http://www.mtv.com/news/1855534/mich...sformers-fans/

[Powder]

What else is he supposed to say? He's rolling in cash, he can brush us off with no consequence.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Specifically about Transformers: incomprehensible messes, which become worse with each new project, tend to become boring, despite what colorful fluff is thrown into them. There is no sense of novelty, wonder or any kind of interest. All of them are basically parade of CGI clips with different level of comprehensibility in them.

Hate on Bay is justified somewhat, as his movies are pretty insubstantial and basically show other creators that you throw cool visual **** together, without any kind of involving story or interesting characters and still make money. A lot of money. I, personally, can't stand for it. I don't demand every single movie to have greatly elaborated story, but can they at least have interesting, not boring characters and story that has internal logic and doesn't look like it was written on a piece of napkin during morning hangover? And I guess amount of hatred shows, that the same goes for many other people.

I dunno, I guess there are plenty of people out there that love what he does or he wouldn't have made as much $$$ as he has on these things... much as I don't personally understand it!

Originally Posted by Leo656

I actually think Armageddon was a really neat flick, but it definitely benefited from having a terrific cast. Sometimes, all that holds a movie together is a bunch of people who are fun to watch, and that's something a lot of Bay's recent movies hadn't had.

I was more into The Rock myself.

[snake]

Bay movies are boring until they get to the actions scenes in my opinion. Why should I care about the human characters I'm exposed to for about an hour in the Transformers movies?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I dunno, I guess there are plenty of people out there that love what he does or he wouldn't have made as much $$$ as he has on these things... much as I don't personally understand it!



I was more into The Rock myself.

Hmmm, my favorite Bay movie is probably Bay Boys 2. That's a movie that never gets too old for me. My other favorites would be Transformers 1 and The Island.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by snake

Bay movies are boring until they get to the actions scenes in my opinion. Why should I care about the human characters I'm exposed to for about an hour in the Transformers movies?

Because they're Amuuurricans, brah! And real Amuuurricans love to watch other real Amuuurricans!