Has anyone else here never gotten into anime? - Page 4

*CyberCubed* · 06-08-2014, 08:05 PM

The art style in One Piece is to weird for me. The characters look so lanky.

*MrTMNT2012* · 06-30-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The art style in One Piece is to weird for me. The characters look so lanky.

Same here but when I watched through it, I found that actually works in the shows favour. It adds much more character and diversity to the series and keeps things over-the-top when it needs to and subtle in other cases.

One Piece is by far the smartest and greatest Shounen Anime I've ever watched and it just keeps getting better. I didn't like the first few episodes but I'd say from Episode 24 onwards I was completely hooked!

JamieH · 06-30-2014, 05:40 PM

I feel the general reason people dislike anime is poor exposure. Either from watching a few basic shows that are but a single genre of anime, or none, yet a negative opinion is still formed from misinformation. Then there's the cultural differences. All the nuances that have to be learned and understood so that one can cut past the "weird" differences and form a fair opinion.

A lot of the recommendations I've seen here won't help someone who has an unfavorable opinion already. I wouldn't rec a series unless I was to get some positive feedback after some OVA and movie recs. No point in trying to get someone to watch something longer than an hour, hour and a half or so when they may be apprehensive already.

Now, sadly, the industry has changed significantly over the past decade or so. There has been a trend going towards fanservice. So much so, that even Hayao Miyazaki has gone on record to say there's a problem. It's been enough that I don't watch or buy as much as I once did. Now, I will admit fanservice has kind of always been around in anime. It's not always been intended to be sexy, but comedic. There was a balance of sorts going on for a while. Unfortunately, that balance has seemingly gone all the way towards sexy in recent years.

Are good anime still being made? Yes, but they're getting harder to come by and even many of the good ones are having to succumb to the style, setting, and character age preferences of otaku.

Which, one final thing to touch on, otaku is not a favorable term. Many people will proudly claim to be otaku, like it's a badge they've earned. That doesn't change the general public's view of the term and of such people. Otaku is meant as a person who has an unhealthy obsession with something, not necessarily anime/manga (though those are the prime hobbies associated).

I used to think all the **** anime/manga caught was unfairly so, but these days I kind of don't blame people. It's slowly gotten closer to actually making those old quips along the lines of "you mean those Japanese porn cartoons?" being accurate. And that's in reference to non-hentai series.

Peanut · 06-30-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JamieH

A lot of the recommendations I've seen here won't help someone who has an unfavorable opinion already.

What's the point in saying that and then recommending nothing at all? It helps no one.

*pennydreadful* · 06-30-2014, 06:07 PM

I mean, there's always the option of maybe picking up a few manga as well, if you're leery of the "stigma" of anime (and, by association, its fans). There is a lot of good manga out there, a diverse range of genres and not all of them are full of fanservice, pervery or loli and pantyshots either. It really depends on what you think you'd be interested in.

~~Sumac~~ · 06-30-2014, 06:10 PM

Like 'Cubed I've watched some anime in the childhood (Sailor Moon, Grendaizer (sic?), Witch Sally, Macron 1, some episodes of Voltron and Macross).

Later I've heard how anime is cool and everything, but never attempted to get into it until two years ago. Watched several short series (Black Rock Shooter, The Big O, Rozen Maiden, Go Shogun, Rhinne no Lagrange, Puella Magi Madoka Magica + Rebellion) but never got into the genre. I like it, but it's the same kind of "like" I have for any other genre. I am kind of guy, that can watch everything as long as its decent, but most of the stuff will not stuck in my mind.

I plan to watch new Sailor Moon, just to see how exactly they will play new version, compared to the original one.

JamieH · 06-30-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

What's the point in saying that and then recommending nothing at all? It helps no one.

I didn't see anyone asking for recommendations. It's like giving advice without being asked for it.

Dawnatello Turtle Chick · 06-30-2014, 08:43 PM

I have never liked Anime and have absolutely no idea why... I'd say probably 60-70% of my friends are Anime nuts and my husband is about the biggest Anime fan I've ever met- he had hundreds of Anime DVDs from at least 20 series when I first met him. He has tried in vain to get me to love Anime for over 7 years now, lol. I think he's mostly given up- I react to Anime in much the same manner I do to Soap Operas, I give a running commentary that is apparently only funny to me. I know that it sounds like I hate Anime or something, but I don't, I think many series have some amazing animation, characters, storylines, etc, but I just can't "want" to watch them. I don't mind sitting there while my husband and son watch Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh, or my hubby watches Naruto, DBZ, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Appleseed Ex Machina and a bunch of others that just aren't coming to mind. I can sit there and talk about Anime with other fans a bit, but only because I've learned about it from my hubby or other friends. It's kind of frustrating to me too because there have been quite a few video games over the years that were anime based/animated in that style that otherwise sounded awesome but it's just kind of a turnoff to me to buy the game- I know that sounds weird, but eh, it is what it is. That's what I get for having nonsensical tastes.

*CyberCubed* · 06-30-2014, 11:40 PM

So I keep hearing online that this, "Fairy Tail" anime is good and all the rage. I look up what it is and see dozens of animated gifs with girls boobs bouncing out of their swimsuits and feeling each other up. Seriously, what is with this garbage? I just can't understand anime fanservice. I don't mind if there is a little of it but it seems like it happens in every show now and its blatant. I mean...WTF?

Is every single anime show out there now just about boobs, lesbians, and sex appeal? Its invaded even the shonen action genre (which is basically Japan's version of superheroes or action cartoons), and its in all those god awful harem comedies.

Even kids shows like Pokemon do fanservice from time to time, even if its much tamer than other shows. The girls in Pokemon are supposed to be 10 yet May has huge boobs, Dawn walks around in a tiny skirt barely past her waist, and Serena has the body of a 18 year old.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-01-2014, 12:42 AM

Something for the Dads who watch with the kids, maybe? I'unno.

I'm out of my element, here. "Speed Racer" is about as deep as I go. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm very sure that at least one point in life I've said, "This show would be a lot better if Trixie had bigger cans." That's almost definitely a quote.

*pennydreadful* · 07-01-2014, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So I keep hearing online that this, "Fairy Tail" anime is good and all the rage. I look up what it is and see dozens of animated gifs with girls boobs bouncing out of their swimsuits and feeling each other up. Seriously, what is with this garbage? I just can't understand anime fanservice. I don't mind if there is a little of it but it seems like it happens in every show now and its blatant. I mean...WTF?

Is every single anime show out there now just about boobs, lesbians, and sex appeal? Its invaded even the shonen action genre (which is basically Japan's version of superheroes or action cartoons), and its in all those god awful harem comedies.

Even kids shows like Pokemon do fanservice from time to time, even if its much tamer than other shows. The girls in Pokemon are supposed to be 10 yet May has huge boobs, Dawn walks around in a tiny skirt barely past her waist, and Serena has the body of a 18 year old.

Yes Cubed. We, the anime fans of the world, had a meeting and decided that plot is out and fanservice is in. If it doesn't involve boobs or panty-shots, it doesn't make the cut.

Seriously man, I don't know what to tell you - seems like you can't see the forest for the fanservice. *shrugs* Obviously it's not your thing.

pingclang · 07-01-2014, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Something for the Dads who watch with the kids, maybe? I'unno.

I'm out of my element, here. "Speed Racer" is about as deep as I go. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm very sure that at least one point in life I've said, "This show would be a lot better if Trixie had bigger cans." That's almost definitely a quote.

Ever shot protein shake out your nose? Me neither, until I read this post.

Peanut · 07-01-2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So I keep hearing online that this, "Fairy Tail" anime is good and all the rage. I look up what it is and see dozens of animated gifs with girls boobs bouncing out of their swimsuits and feeling each other up. Seriously, what is with this garbage? I just can't understand anime fanservice. I don't mind if there is a little of it but it seems like it happens in every show now and its blatant. I mean...WTF?

To be fair, Fairy Tail is a lot of fun and the fan service isn't the point of the show, unlike most of the anime you're complaining about. However, the fan service has gotten ridiculous in Fairy Tail. It's very clear that Lucy, the "main" character, was created almost entirely with fan service in mind. And while she was front and center in the beginning, she has been pushed to the side for the more entertaining characters, so at this point every scene she's in is a fan service scene to some degree. Even Erza, who wears a f*cking suit of armor, is used for fan service WAY too much now. It bums me out, because it has steadily gotten worse.

The fan service in Fairy Tail is actually one of the reasons I prefer One Piece. Even though that series slowly morphed Nami from a small gangly teenager into a bikini wearing pair of breasts, it has never been the focus of her character and they've only done the very obvious "boobs flying everywhere" fan service on a handful of occasions over 600+ episodes and a lot of that stuff was in the movies. A feel like the point of Lucy in Fairy Tail is for her to be lusted after. Her characterization isn't interesting enough or given enough legit time to be thought of otherwise.

That being said, Kill La Kill is an anime that was designed around making you give a **** about what seems like your typical fan service anime and it's incredible, which still blows my mind.

*CyberCubed* · 07-01-2014, 12:52 PM

I am considering on watching the new Sailor Moon anime, at least that show has the sense to keep fanservice to a minimum. I think Sailor Moon is a perfect example of how a show where the majority of the cast is female doesn't have to be used solely for sex appeal or fanservice.

Man, I do miss how anime was back in the 90's when shows like Sailor Moon and Dragonball kept fanservice to a minimum rather than the defining aspect of it.

*Prowler* · 07-01-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I am considering on watching the new Sailor Moon anime, at least that show has the sense to keep fanservice to a minimum. I think Sailor Moon is a perfect example of how a show where the majority of the cast is female doesn't have to be used solely for sex appeal or fanservice.

Man, I do miss how anime was back in the 90's when shows like Sailor Moon and Dragonball kept fanservice to a minimum rather than the defining aspect of it.

Sailor Moon's demographic target is girls, so obviously it's not going overboard with fanservice of female characters. Same applies to most Shoujo/Josei anime. Sure they have good looking male characters(sometimes a bit too feminine looking), but that's not fanservice.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-01-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang

Ever shot protein shake out your nose? Me neither, until I read this post.

That's terriffic.

pingclang · 07-01-2014, 02:21 PM

Maybe for you. Kinda painful for me.

Mona_Lisa · 07-01-2014, 02:30 PM

I've become somewhat of a manga/ anime freak! (way to go Netflix) I LOVE
sword art online!!!!

Also liked:

Fruits basket
Rosario Vampire
Kase no stigma
Moon-Phase
Kenichi The mightiest disciple
Okami-san and her seven companions
Trigun,
Host club (lol)
Dance in the Vampire Bund
Blood +
Eden of the east
Gunslinger Girl
Sailor moon
DBZ
Gundam wing
Avatar, the last air bender
Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit

I know there are more I have liked but cannot remember there names.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its so difficult to get into anime where even respected shows go for boob or panty shots on the female characters. Can someone explain to me what the appeal of this is?

I'm all for well designed female characters, but I don't need to see the camera closing it on body parts for no reason. No wonder why anime gets such a bad rep.

That is the bad part of anime, I get sick of the boob and panty shots... But I tend to get lost in the story and ignore them for the most part.

graphic_content · 07-01-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

That is the bad part of anime, I get sick of the boob and panty shots... But I tend to get lost in the story and ignore them for the most part.

agreed.

I cant stand the term fan-service, because its implies that ALL anime fans are just a bunch of pervs that want hand-drawn T&A in our faces.

give me a decent storyline with amazing action, and little to no 'fan-service', and ill be happy with it still.

*CyberCubed* · 07-01-2014, 06:23 PM

Its even worse when they do it to underage girls. I don't mind a 20-30 year old adult having such shots, but when they do it to 12-14 year old girls?

It's all lolicon harem anime trash. The fact that its also now all lesbianism also adds to it, and not the good kind.

06-30-2014, 06:07 PM	#65
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06-30-2014, 08:43 PM	#68
Dawnatello Turtle Chick Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mineral Wells, TX Posts: 1,178	I have never liked Anime and have absolutely no idea why... I'd say probably 60-70% of my friends are Anime nuts and my husband is about the biggest Anime fan I've ever met- he had hundreds of Anime DVDs from at least 20 series when I first met him. He has tried in vain to get me to love Anime for over 7 years now, lol. I think he's mostly given up- I react to Anime in much the same manner I do to Soap Operas, I give a running commentary that is apparently only funny to me. I know that it sounds like I hate Anime or something, but I don't, I think many series have some amazing animation, characters, storylines, etc, but I just can't "want" to watch them. I don't mind sitting there while my husband and son watch Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh, or my hubby watches Naruto, DBZ, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Appleseed Ex Machina and a bunch of others that just aren't coming to mind. I can sit there and talk about Anime with other fans a bit, but only because I've learned about it from my hubby or other friends. It's kind of frustrating to me too because there have been quite a few video games over the years that were anime based/animated in that style that otherwise sounded awesome but it's just kind of a turnoff to me to buy the game- I know that sounds weird, but eh, it is what it is. That's what I get for having nonsensical tastes. __________________ These are here-->[IMG][/IMG]<---and here.

06-08-2014, 08:05 PM	#61
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	The art style in One Piece is to weird for me. The characters look so lanky.

06-30-2014, 05:40 PM	#63
JamieH Thug Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Kinston, NC Posts: 94	I feel the general reason people dislike anime is poor exposure. Either from watching a few basic shows that are but a single genre of anime, or none, yet a negative opinion is still formed from misinformation. Then there's the cultural differences. All the nuances that have to be learned and understood so that one can cut past the "weird" differences and form a fair opinion. A lot of the recommendations I've seen here won't help someone who has an unfavorable opinion already. I wouldn't rec a series unless I was to get some positive feedback after some OVA and movie recs. No point in trying to get someone to watch something longer than an hour, hour and a half or so when they may be apprehensive already. Now, sadly, the industry has changed significantly over the past decade or so. There has been a trend going towards fanservice. So much so, that even Hayao Miyazaki has gone on record to say there's a problem. It's been enough that I don't watch or buy as much as I once did. Now, I will admit fanservice has kind of always been around in anime. It's not always been intended to be sexy, but comedic. There was a balance of sorts going on for a while. Unfortunately, that balance has seemingly gone all the way towards sexy in recent years. Are good anime still being made? Yes, but they're getting harder to come by and even many of the good ones are having to succumb to the style, setting, and character age preferences of otaku. Which, one final thing to touch on, otaku is not a favorable term. Many people will proudly claim to be otaku, like it's a badge they've earned. That doesn't change the general public's view of the term and of such people. Otaku is meant as a person who has an unhealthy obsession with something, not necessarily anime/manga (though those are the prime hobbies associated). I used to think all the **** anime/manga caught was unfairly so, but these days I kind of don't blame people. It's slowly gotten closer to actually making those old quips along the lines of "you mean those Japanese porn cartoons?" being accurate. And that's in reference to non-hentai series.

06-30-2014, 06:10 PM	#66
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	Like 'Cubed I've watched some anime in the childhood (Sailor Moon, Grendaizer (sic?), Witch Sally, Macron 1, some episodes of Voltron and Macross). Later I've heard how anime is cool and everything, but never attempted to get into it until two years ago. Watched several short series (Black Rock Shooter, The Big O, Rozen Maiden, Go Shogun, Rhinne no Lagrange, Puella Magi Madoka Magica + Rebellion) but never got into the genre. I like it, but it's the same kind of "like" I have for any other genre. I am kind of guy, that can watch everything as long as its decent, but most of the stuff will not stuck in my mind. I plan to watch new Sailor Moon, just to see how exactly they will play new version, compared to the original one.

06-30-2014, 11:40 PM	#69
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	So I keep hearing online that this, "Fairy Tail" anime is good and all the rage. I look up what it is and see dozens of animated gifs with girls boobs bouncing out of their swimsuits and feeling each other up. Seriously, what is with this garbage? I just can't understand anime fanservice. I don't mind if there is a little of it but it seems like it happens in every show now and its blatant. I mean...WTF? Is every single anime show out there now just about boobs, lesbians, and sex appeal? Its invaded even the shonen action genre (which is basically Japan's version of superheroes or action cartoons), and its in all those god awful harem comedies. Even kids shows like Pokemon do fanservice from time to time, even if its much tamer than other shows. The girls in Pokemon are supposed to be 10 yet May has huge boobs, Dawn walks around in a tiny skirt barely past her waist, and Serena has the body of a 18 year old.

07-01-2014, 12:42 AM	#70
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Something for the Dads who watch with the kids, maybe? I'unno. I'm out of my element, here. "Speed Racer" is about as deep as I go. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm very sure that at least one point in life I've said, "This show would be a lot better if Trixie had bigger cans." That's almost definitely a quote.

07-01-2014, 12:52 PM	#74
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	I am considering on watching the new Sailor Moon anime, at least that show has the sense to keep fanservice to a minimum. I think Sailor Moon is a perfect example of how a show where the majority of the cast is female doesn't have to be used solely for sex appeal or fanservice. Man, I do miss how anime was back in the 90's when shows like Sailor Moon and Dragonball kept fanservice to a minimum rather than the defining aspect of it.

07-01-2014, 02:21 PM	#77
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	Maybe for you. Kinda painful for me.

07-01-2014, 06:23 PM	#80
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	Its even worse when they do it to underage girls. I don't mind a 20-30 year old adult having such shots, but when they do it to 12-14 year old girls? It's all lolicon harem anime trash. The fact that its also now all lesbianism also adds to it, and not the good kind.