Amazing spiderman 3 delayed and in limbo?

[psychturtle]

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...limbo-20140712

I'd honestly hope marvels studios can get the property back. Sony missed so many opportunities with this. Thoug the newer movies were fine, I thought they could have been so much better. Hope marvel gets him back in time for a cameo in avengers 4

[ZariusTwo]

Rushing out a shared universe is what led to this, trying to play catch up to Marvel's cinematic universe has already done a lot of damage to DC's movie market, everyone tripping up and trying to copycat is a trick the public can see straight through. Combine that with the franchise's current state (naff comics and cartoons) and all signs point to it needing a long rest, even if it does fall under the Marvel Studios umbrella one day, just don't oversaturate us with the same tired ideas.

On a side note, and to express an unpopular opinion...I know I'm not the only one who thinks Spidey being an Avenger has always been a horses*it move that goes completly against his urban hero/everyman roots. Hell the books where he's a father, and Stan Lee's newspaper strip, don't even acknowlege he became an Avenger in the regular comics.

[NinjaPug]

I hope they cancel everything related to this new movie universe they created (ASM3, Sinister Six, Venom). I will never stop hating on ASM2.

Who wants a S6 movie without Spidey in it anyway? Such a stupid idea to try and milk the franchise by expanding the universe.

I agree with you Zarius - I have no desire to see Spidey in an Avengers movie. I just want another good Spidey movie.

[psychturtle]

I don't mind him being in a team-up or in avengers,but I totally agree that we deserve a good spiderman movie. The dude has the best villains and has such a deep complexity.

[CyberCubed]

Does this mean Sony is selling the rights back to Marvel?

[snake]

Meh. I could care less. ASM2 was pretty bad.

[sdp]

There's no way Sony is giving back Spider-Man, in fact I'm surprised they gave back Ghostrider and Punisher. And it really is for the best that Marvel doesn't have Spider-Man, they already have too much in their hands, Marvel having all their heroes means less focus on the smaller heroes. We might have never had an Iron Man movie if Marvel had been in control of all their properties when they started their movie universe, and with all the rights the have now they can't make a movie out of everything, it really was best when different movie studios had different heroes. Spider-Man in avengers makes no sense except for the fact that he's int he same shared universe.

I haven't watched the Amazing Spider-Man movies but I heard both great things and terrible things, it really seems to be divisive. I didn't care much for the Raimi films, they're fine superhero movies but nothing amazing, I'll give the reboot a chance when there's more movies available and they're easily watchable streaming/netflix etc. Sony creating a "marvel universe" with only Spider-Man characters is difficult and would've been much easier with Punisher/Ghostrider and more entertaining, but it can still be fun since the Spider-Man universe is pretty big, I mean how many monthly comics does Spider-Man have? It could be the first Superhero character that gets to adapt the complex world they live in, instead of simplifying it for a movie. Same idea with Fox, now they want to try the shared universe with the new F4 movie but they could've started it a long time ago, I remember wanting to see some X-Men as background fodder in Sue/Richard's wedding in F4. They should've have let go of Daredevil. Especially since Sony/Fox let them go after the success of Avengers and during their plans of making their own "shared" universe. While DC is rushing their shared universe, they seem to be handling it in a different way, Man of Steel 2 is no longer a Superman sequel and it's now a DC Universe movie featuring Batman/Superman and JL coming next, so instead of starting out with each hero like Marvel and Sony/Fox seem to be doing, we'll start with a fleshed out DC Universe and then get individual films from there. If they make the Arrowverse in continuity then it'd work out even better.

[chrisdude]

I can't guess what they'll do. People would laugh at them for rebooting again. And if people don't care about Spider-man anymore, they sure won't care about the sinister six.

I'd love to see Spider-man join the MCU. That doesn't necessarily mean he has to join The Avengers, even if he does find himself involved in a big event.

[CyberCubed]

Do they have to reboot it? Just keep the same actor as Spiderman, and drop the "3" from the title, and continue from there.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Do they have to reboot it? Just keep the same actor as Spiderman, and drop the "3" from the title, and continue from there.

Continue on to what, though?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Continue on to what, though?

Any new story? Or do what DC is doing, having an "experienced" Batman in the new movie who doesn't start off at square one again.

[BabyTurtles]

Maybe it's time for a new Spiderman?? >3> Miles Morales anyone??

[chrisdude]

I really don't even have a suggestion. I can't imagine that people aren't tired of Spider-man.

Miles is a thought. I haven't read any of that, so I can't really speak to it. It would certainly be a way to shake things up. Right now, we're looking at the two weakest performing Spider-man movies, back-to-back. Whatever they do next, I do not expect it to be The Amazing Spider-man 3.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Continue on to what, though?

Death of Peter parker and bring on Ben Riley
Imagine the headlines
To have a major super-hero actually be killed off in his own movie on the big screen

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

I really don't even have a suggestion. I can't imagine that people aren't tired of Spider-man.

Miles is a thought. I haven't read any of that, so I can't really speak to it. It would certainly be a way to shake things up. Right now, we're looking at the two weakest performing Spider-man movies, back-to-back. Whatever they do next, I do not expect it to be The Amazing Spider-man 3.

Miles Morales is awesome! you should read his books!

He would be a great Spidey.....but Peter has to die for that to happen >:T
(if they were going to stick with the comics)

[TheBlueTurtle1]

To me personally the Sam Raimi trilogy was all that was needed. Sure I would have loved a 4th and 5th as they were going to do them, it's such a shame Sony wanted them rushed out. Toby as Spider-man catptured all the original charm and essence of the original comics that Stan Lee and Steve Dikto did together.

The reboot was so not needed just 10 years after the first film was made. The first half of ASM was utterly pointless.

They should just stop making Spider-man films all together for now. Then in many years time when we are ready make some more.

Unless of course they actually wanted to carry on with Raimi and toby and do a Spidy 4.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

To me personally the Sam Raimi trilogy was all that was needed. Sure I would have loved a 4th and 5th as they were going to do them, it's such a shame Sony wanted them rushed out. Toby as Spider-man catptured all the original charm and essence of the original comics that Stan Lee and Steve Dikto did together.

The reboot was so not needed just 10 years after the first film was made. The first half of ASM was utterly pointless.

They should just stop making Spider-man films all together for now. Then in many years time when we are ready make some more.

Unless of course they actually wanted to carry on with Raimi and toby and do a Spidy 4.

Damn I cannot understand for the life of me why people love the Rami trilogy so much.....
You say spider-man captures the original spider-man, but Amazing spiderman more closely resembles the original concept.

Sam Rami
spider-man lacked web shooters and was lacking in the sarcasm department, Harry is his best friend???? What the Hell was that black thing in Spidey 3????Sure as hell wasn't Venom. Gwen stacey was just a bimbo.

Amazing Spider-man
Has traditional spidey sarcasm, Mechanical Web shooters, Spidey is actually resourceful and street smart, not just science smart. The Lizard was actually spidery's first villain. Gwen Stacey is actually smart.

I could on and on, but this is just my view. I feel like the Amazing Spidey series portrays a more traditional spider-man/peter parker and follows the universe more closely.
Sam Rami took some interesting liberties, but not giving spider-man that sarcastic side just killed the series for me personally and others I have discussed it with.

I have not seen Amazing Spider-man 2 so I cannot comment on that specific movie, but I will hopefully see it soon.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

Damn I cannot understand for the life of me why people love the Rami trilogy so much.....
You say spider-man captures the original spider-man, but Amazing spiderman more closely resembles the original concept.

Sam Rami
spider-man lacked web shooters and was lacking in the sarcasm department, Harry is his best friend???? What the Hell was that black thing in Spidey 3????Sure as hell wasn't Venom. Gwen stacey was just a bimbo.

Amazing Spider-man
Has traditional spidey sarcasm, Mechanical Web shooters, Spidey is actually resourceful and street smart, not just science smart. The Lizard was actually spidery's first villain. Gwen Stacey is actually smart.

I could on and on, but this is just my view. I feel like the Amazing Spidey series portrays a more traditional spider-man/peter parker and follows the universe more closely.
Sam Rami took some interesting liberties, but not giving spider-man that sarcastic side just killed the series for me personally and others I have discussed it with.

I have not seen Amazing Spider-man 2 so I cannot comment on that specific movie, but I will hopefully see it soon.

Just because the original trilogy didnt have Mechanical web shooters, is not a compelling argument. Tobys portrayal ressembles the Nerdy Lee/Dikto persona. Andrew Garfield felt more like a mordern comic book Spider-man and that is fair enough if you like that.

Sure there was a few strong links to the traditional spidy format in ASM , e.g Gwen being parkers first love etc , but overal the tone and vibe of Rami s Spidy is a lot better.


For the Record, I like AMS but just think the original trilogy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Maybe it's time for a new Spiderman?? >3> Miles Morales anyone??

People will just rebel against that. Miles is a niche character as it is, popular with the comics crowd, but nobody in the mainstream knows nor really cares.

Hell I'd love a film based off Miguel O'Hara and Peter and MJ's daughter Mayday, but for similar reasons they will never get highlighted.

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Sure there was a few strong links to the traditional spidy format in ASM , e.g Gwen being parkers first love etc

A small correction: In the Lee/Ditko era, Betty Brant was Peter's first love (or at least crush)

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

People will just rebel against that. Miles is a niche character as it is, popular with the comics crowd, but nobody in the mainstream knows nor really cares.

Hell I'd love a film based off Miguel O'Hara and Peter and MJ's daughter Mayday, but for similar reasons they will never get highlighted.




A small correction: In the Lee/Ditko era, Betty Brant was Peter's first love (or at least crush)

It never really manifested, but your kinda right I guess.