Amazing spiderman 3 delayed and in limbo? - Page 2

*NinjaPug* · 07-14-2014, 07:25 AM

The current producers said they'll never have Miles Morales be Spider-Man in their movies.

*chrisdude* · 07-14-2014, 08:12 AM

Well, they have to shake it up, somehow. You don't make two disappointing additions to a franchise, each making less and less money, then just try a third time. They aren't that dumb. Surely they don't want the rights to revert back to Marvel. How do you keep a franchise alive when you've tried everything? They could do a third one, and cut the budget, but that strategy may not work too well with a superhero movie.

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 07-14-2014, 09:28 AM

I would love it if they had the 2 Spidy movies cross, have toby and andrew cross in to each others movies, it's a famous story arch. Heck they could even introduce a new potenial spidy lead for future movies. Could be a good way of doing it.

*shuriken* · 07-14-2014, 10:00 AM

^^Sounds like you're reaching, and a terrible Idea. (kinda cool for a comic though) I personally enjoyed all of the movies, even 3 was mildly amusing (terrible but amusing) I think having a sinister 6 movie and venom movie sounds stupid though.

*BabyTurtles* · 07-14-2014, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

People will just rebel against that. Miles is a niche character as it is, popular with the comics crowd, but nobody in the mainstream knows nor really cares.

Hell I'd love a film based off Miguel O'Hara and Peter and MJ's daughter Mayday, but for similar reasons they will never get highlighted.

I guess so....but Miles is gonna show up in the Ultimate Spiderman show soon

Maybe that will get some of the kids familiar with him...

If Big Hero 6 turns out awesome....I wonder if an animated Spiderman movie would be awesome?? (but I hear Disney doesn't have movie rights to Spiderman or something....

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*ZariusTwo* · 07-14-2014, 11:54 AM

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I guess so....but Miles is gonna show up in the Ultimate Spiderman show soon

Yeah he will, and he was referenced in the show before by name in the first season, but I think that'll be the extent of it for now.

They almost made a cartoon of Spidey 2099 back in the 90s, but it was turned into Spider-Man Unlimited instead

*BabyTurtles* · 07-14-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeah he will, and he was referenced in the show before by name in the first season, but I think that'll be the extent of it for now.

They almost made a cartoon of Spidey 2099 back in the 90s, but it was turned into Spider-Man Unlimited instead

I just want a Miles Morales-something....

*Redeemer* · 07-14-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Just because the original trilogy didnt have Mechanical web shooters, is not a compelling argument. Tobys portrayal ressembles the Nerdy Lee/Dikto persona. Andrew Garfield felt more like a mordern comic book Spider-man and that is fair enough if you like that.

Sure there was a few strong links to the traditional spidy format in ASM , e.g Gwen being parkers first love etc , but overal the tone and vibe of Rami s Spidy is a lot better.

For the Record, I like AMS but just think the original trilogy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

Sam Rami spider-man is only scientific smart, not resourceful like he should and has no sarcastic personallity what so ever which is a corner stone to Spidey's personality. In Amazing the sarcasm is actually a little over-done.

Amazing Spider-man resembles and mirrors the original spider-man closer than Sam Rami.
I think Tobi definitely has the look of the original hands down, but the writing and script made the character go away from traditional spider-man attitude.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-14-2014, 01:14 PM

Ouch, yeah... I didn't realize Amazing Spider-Man 2 did that badly compared to the others. It's literally the weakest film financially in the whole franchise, even including the Raimi ones.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Spider-Man

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 07-14-2014, 01:14 PM

Do you know what was lacking from ASM the most. The Daily Bugle. There is a certain recipe that makes a character who she/he is, and for Peter Parker it's the foundation of his cake.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-14-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Do you know what was lacking from ASM the most

Any kind of a movie that even remotely was more interesting to watch than the Raimi ones.

*Redeemer* · 07-14-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Ouch, yeah... I didn't realize Amazing Spider-Man 2 did that badly compared to the others. It's literally the weakest film financially in the whole franchise, even including the Raimi ones.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Spider-Man

I think that is attributed to two enormous facts.

The Sam Rami films had no competition from the super-hero community.
and two the Sam Rami films are released during the beginning of summer in june
and AMS series is being released in the first week of May.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-14-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

I think that is attributed to two enormous facts.

The Sam Rami films had no competition from the super-hero community.
and two the Sam Rami films are released during the beginning of summer in june
and AMS series is being released in the first week of May.

And not the fact that they're awful?

*Redeemer* · 07-14-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And not the fact that they're awful?

I enjoyed the first AMS and thought it was the best spider-man movie sense Spider-man 1, but I have not seen the 2nd AMS movie so I cannot comment on it.

The problem I have is the 3rd movie left such a sour taste in my mouth. I also did not enjoy Spider-man 2 like everyone else did.

psychturtle · 07-14-2014, 04:54 PM

Spiderman needs a fresh take. I really wish marvel studios could somehow get ownership of ultimate spiderman and miles morales. Sony can keep Peter Parker.

This is what happens when one stio ones one character. The only thing they can do with him is make more movies. I think I read a while back that the guy who just left ASM 3 was hoping for crossovers with marvel. That's off the table with his exit.

I just hope marvel can get spidey back. They can relaunch spiderman once all of the current arcs are over.

Peanut · 07-14-2014, 05:36 PM

As someone who is/was a huge HUGE Spider-Man fan for all of my life I have this to say - f*ck Spider-Man. They've ruined every single god damned thing to do with him since the mid 90's. They have a few decent runs here or there in the comics, they had the short-lived Spectacular, even some of the movies had some decent moments, but none of it sticks! It always gets flushed, or rushed, or rebooted. I'm sick and f*cking tired of all of it.

If anything, they need to shut it all down and bury the brand for a few years. Rebooting it AGAIN, in any form, now or in the near future, is a sure-fire way to kill it faster. It is an absolute f*cking travesty what they've done to him.

*CyberCubed* · 07-14-2014, 07:24 PM

They reboot Batman constantly, why not Spiderman? WB pumps out one new Batman cartoon after another, and we're on yet another new Batman appearing in the next movie.

psychturtle · 07-15-2014, 07:42 AM

I don't think they even need to reboot it. They simply can do what the first batman films did and simp,y have a few flashback to origin story but keep the character in the present arc. I really want miles morales to make his screen debut.

*ZariusTwo* · 07-15-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

As someone who is/was a huge HUGE Spider-Man fan for all of my life I have this to say - f*ck Spider-Man. They've ruined every single god damned thing to do with him since the mid 90's. They have a few decent runs here or there in the comics, they had the short-lived Spectacular, even some of the movies had some decent moments, but none of it sticks! It always gets flushed, or rushed, or rebooted. I'm sick and f*cking tired of all of it.

If anything, they need to shut it all down and bury the brand for a few years. Rebooting it AGAIN, in any form, now or in the near future, is a sure-fire way to kill it faster. It is an absolute f*cking travesty what they've done to him.

Rarely do we see eye-to-eye, but you are spot on with this.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-15-2014, 08:50 AM

My opinion: No Jameson and The Daily Bugle and no Mary Jane to focus on a 40 year old tragedy that was predictable from the day it was revealed Stone played Gwen opposed to MJ. The Harry Psborn plot had a pair of key scenes edited out such as Norman telling Harry the truth about Peter and Harry telling Peter that Oscorp is watching him. Harry leading a Sinister Six especially when Doc Ock is involved? It doesn't work. Still 703 million is not a failure. Even if its the worst Spider-Man film it shows that an audience will go simply because its Spider-Man.

Here is an interesting article from The Motley Fool.
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-last-fil.aspx

07-14-2014, 08:12 AM	#22
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	Well, they have to shake it up, somehow. You don't make two disappointing additions to a franchise, each making less and less money, then just try a third time. They aren't that dumb. Surely they don't want the rights to revert back to Marvel. How do you keep a franchise alive when you've tried everything? They could do a third one, and cut the budget, but that strategy may not work too well with a superhero movie. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

07-14-2014, 09:28 AM	#23
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	I would love it if they had the 2 Spidy movies cross, have toby and andrew cross in to each others movies, it's a famous story arch. Heck they could even introduce a new potenial spidy lead for future movies. Could be a good way of doing it. __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M)

07-14-2014, 10:00 AM	#24
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	^^Sounds like you're reaching, and a terrible Idea. (kinda cool for a comic though) I personally enjoyed all of the movies, even 3 was mildly amusing (terrible but amusing) I think having a sinister 6 movie and venom movie sounds stupid though. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

07-14-2014, 01:14 PM	#29
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	Ouch, yeah... I didn't realize Amazing Spider-Man 2 did that badly compared to the others. It's literally the weakest film financially in the whole franchise, even including the Raimi ones. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Spider-Man __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

07-14-2014, 01:14 PM	#30
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	Do you know what was lacking from ASM the most. The Daily Bugle. There is a certain recipe that makes a character who she/he is, and for Peter Parker it's the foundation of his cake. __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M)

07-14-2014, 07:25 AM	#21
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	The current producers said they'll never have Miles Morales be Spider-Man in their movies.

07-14-2014, 04:54 PM	#35
psychturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,001	Spiderman needs a fresh take. I really wish marvel studios could somehow get ownership of ultimate spiderman and miles morales. Sony can keep Peter Parker. This is what happens when one stio ones one character. The only thing they can do with him is make more movies. I think I read a while back that the guy who just left ASM 3 was hoping for crossovers with marvel. That's off the table with his exit. I just hope marvel can get spidey back. They can relaunch spiderman once all of the current arcs are over.

07-14-2014, 05:36 PM	#36
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	As someone who is/was a huge HUGE Spider-Man fan for all of my life I have this to say - fck Spider-Man. They've ruined every single god damned thing to do with him since the mid 90's. They have a few decent runs here or there in the comics, they had the short-lived Spectacular, even some of the movies had some decent moments, but none of it sticks! It always gets flushed, or rushed, or rebooted. I'm sick and fcking tired of all of it. If anything, they need to shut it all down and bury the brand for a few years. Rebooting it AGAIN, in any form, now or in the near future, is a sure-fire way to kill it faster. It is an absolute f*cking travesty what they've done to him.

07-14-2014, 07:24 PM	#37
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	They reboot Batman constantly, why not Spiderman? WB pumps out one new Batman cartoon after another, and we're on yet another new Batman appearing in the next movie.

07-15-2014, 07:42 AM	#38
psychturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,001	I don't think they even need to reboot it. They simply can do what the first batman films did and simp,y have a few flashback to origin story but keep the character in the present arc. I really want miles morales to make his screen debut.

07-15-2014, 08:50 AM	#40
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	My opinion: No Jameson and The Daily Bugle and no Mary Jane to focus on a 40 year old tragedy that was predictable from the day it was revealed Stone played Gwen opposed to MJ. The Harry Psborn plot had a pair of key scenes edited out such as Norman telling Harry the truth about Peter and Harry telling Peter that Oscorp is watching him. Harry leading a Sinister Six especially when Doc Ock is involved? It doesn't work. Still 703 million is not a failure. Even if its the worst Spider-Man film it shows that an audience will go simply because its Spider-Man. Here is an interesting article from The Motley Fool. http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-last-fil.aspx __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!