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Old 07-20-2014, 04:41 PM   #1161
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As for fandom internet fans (not naming names again) who scream about change and accusing other of not respecting their opinion has made it easier for people in the mainstream mock those people.
How exactly?
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:14 PM   #1162
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Article from Deadline on GOTG's potential box office. They don't think TMNT will pose any threat to GOTG at all. They think GOTG could be the #1 movie for 4 weeks in a row if it can beat Expendables 3 in the third week.

http://m.deadline.com/2014/07/guardi...medium=twitter
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:27 PM   #1163
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Wow, it doesn’t mention TMNT at all. Come now, that is a bit ridiculous. TBH, I think the reporter forgot to mention it. It is exceptionally hard for any film to stay on top four weeks running. Honestly, a very rare occurrence. That's not going to happen. If it does open to 80 million (incredibly unlikely. Or even 70 million, for that matter), then I do agree that TMNT could be in trouble and will probably open at number two. However, I honestly can't see that happening.

It’s a bit silly that the reporter wants to be taken seriously, yet they've failed to mention GOTG's most direct competition. Direct in the sense of when it opens and what audience it’s going after. Pretty bad journalism, IMO. Deadline is a bit of a laughing stock nowadays, so it’s not surprising. Honestly, now that I think about it some more I can't believe they haven't mentioned it. That's beyond idiotic.
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:32 PM   #1164
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Yeah, that's why he mentioned its uncommon for movies to be #1 for 4 weeks in the article.
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:39 PM   #1165
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I am looking foward to TMNT more than GOTG, but i'm still looking foward to GOTG, i honestly hope they both succeed.
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Old 07-20-2014, 07:15 PM   #1166
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Article from Deadline on GOTG's potential box office. They don't think TMNT will pose any threat to GOTG at all. They think GOTG could be the #1 movie for 4 weeks in a row if it can beat Expendables 3 in the third week.
Yikes. Wouldn't that make it the first TMNT not to go in at #1 in the US.

I don't think it's too likely to happen but it would certainly be interesting.
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Old 07-20-2014, 08:07 PM   #1167
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i cant stand Hallie Berry but people seem to love her too
Really? Just wondering how come?
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Old 07-20-2014, 08:54 PM   #1168
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The trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy was released this week, and WOW! My facebook feed was exploding with the people sharing the trailer. People who had no idea what it was until the trailer was released were talking about it too.

The fact that the trailer was launched on Jimmy Kimmel also brought in a huge hype factor.

So with all that...

Did Guardians of the Galaxy just win the month of August, and is this another nail in the TMNT 2014 movie coffin?
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Afraid it's a big possibility that Guardians will outshine TMNT.

As much as I negatively critique what we've seen as of this date, I still hope the movie will reel in enough to make more stuff that I can enjoy. Just what the TF movies did.
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It's definitely a possibility.

A lot of positive buzz about this new trailer(and well earned, it looks awesome).

TMNT's main competition stepped up to the plate and hit a home run.

It's their move to give us something. Anything.
Why is this even a question? Of course GotG is gonna outshine TMNT. IT'S A MARVEL MOVIE.
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:21 AM   #1169
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Why is this even a question? Of course GotG is gonna outshine TMNT. IT'S A MARVEL MOVIE.
If this were truly a Liebesman film, as so many people are quick to point out when I refer to this as a Michael Bay film, I wouldn't even consider the possibility of TMNT opening to #1. However, Michael Bay draws more of a crowd than I'll ever understand. As someone who wasn't impressed by TF4's marketing and absolutely hated the movie, I never imagined it would turn out to be the biggest film of the summer. If I were going strictly off of buzz I'd say GotG has this in the bag, but I'm uncertain simply because Bay's name is attached to TMNT.

That said, I find it interesting that TMNT is putting so much of their marketing effort into aiming at very young audiences. It's a wise move, considering GotG's slightly naughty humor means that parents concerned with finding family-friendly entertainment are a lot more likely to choose TMNT.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:27 AM   #1170
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Really? Just wondering how come?
on a personal side i dont see how people find her so attractive and ive never found her t be a great actress

ive also had friends who worked with her and heard horror stories on how she is the biggest Diva on sets..if everything isnt about her she sits in her room/trailer till you acknowledge her godlike presence and she belittles people
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:57 AM   #1171
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I think Halle Berry is one of those actresses that can be really good if cast in a role that plays specifically to her strengths, but she doesn't quite become the role so much as she adapts the role around her acting style. I don't think that's the worst kind of bad actor, but yeah, it's not a good thing at all.
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:19 PM   #1172
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As far as Halle Berry goes, I'd hit that with a sledgehammer but I don't think she's a great actress, either. And she totally seems like she'd be a Diva and a half, just something about how she carries herself.

Maybe it was her incessant bitching about Storm not getting enough to do in the X-Men movies. Like, yeah, I get it, and even in the comics Storm was the leader and all that, but I'm like, "If you honestly think one person pays money for an X-Men movie to see you and not Wolverine, or anyone but Wolverine, you're an idiot. Shut up and take the check."

Most chicks in general can't act, so her "style" is kind of forgivable, but she does seem like a brat. If she thinks she won an Oscar for any reason other than whipping out her ta-tas, she's clueless. That said, they are some award-worthy ta-tas, I'll give her that.
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:29 PM   #1173
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As far as Halle Berry goes, I'd hit that with a sledgehammer but I don't think she's a great actress, either. And she totally seems like she'd be a Diva and a half, just something about how she carries herself.

Maybe it was her incessant bitching about Storm not getting enough to do in the X-Men movies. Like, yeah, I get it, and even in the comics Storm was the leader and all that, but I'm like, "If you honestly think one person pays money for an X-Men movie to see you and not Wolverine, or anyone but Wolverine, you're an idiot. Shut up and take the check."

Most chicks in general can't act, so her "style" is kind of forgivable, but she does seem like a brat. If she thinks she won an Oscar for any reason other than whipping out her ta-tas, she's clueless. That said, they are some award-worthy ta-tas, I'll give her that.

Wow, I think I actually might disagree with EVERYTHING in that post besides the sentiment the Berry is a bad actress.
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:34 PM   #1174
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She's not hot, to you? I guess. Standards vary, obviously.
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Old 07-21-2014, 01:23 PM   #1175
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Another article from Variety talks about how the movie industry hopes Guardians of the Galaxy can save the summer box-office.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/gu...ce-1201265817/

There seems to be more faith in it since it has the Marvel name behind it.

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Article from Deadline on GOTG's potential box office. They don't think TMNT will pose any threat to GOTG at all. They think GOTG could be the #1 movie for 4 weeks in a row if it can beat Expendables 3 in the third week.

http://m.deadline.com/2014/07/guardi...medium=twitter
I disagree with them. The trend this summer seems to be that everyone rushes to see popcorn flicks and superhero films on their opening weekends, but they all lose the #1 spot the following weekend. That is what happened to The Amaing Spider-Man 2, Godzilla, X-Men: Days of Future Past, and Maleficent. Transformers: Age of Extinction and Rise of the Planet of the Apes were #1 for two consecutive weekends because they did not have major competition. Most of the predictions from Box Office Mojo for this summer have not been very accurate at all, especially their prediction for How to Train Your Dragon 2. They thought it would achieve the major success of Despicable Me 2.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3826&p=.htm

I think analysts like this one will be pleasantly surprised by the box-office performance of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Some expected Maleficent to be a box-office disappointment like the original 1959 animated film, Sleeping Beauty, was during its initial box-office run.

http://nypost.com/2014/04/01/scary-p...ys-maleficent/

However, I saw plenty of marketing and trailers two to three weeks before its release and its box office performance has defied the expectations. TMNT's marketing has really kicked in this past month and we've got the Comic-Con presentation this week.

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Old 07-21-2014, 01:30 PM   #1176
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That said, I find it interesting that TMNT is putting so much of their marketing effort into aiming at very young audiences. It's a wise move, considering GotG's slightly naughty humor means that parents concerned with finding family-friendly entertainment are a lot more likely to choose TMNT.
Until they see the PG-13 rating and hear about Mikey making boner jokes.
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The tracking for the box office weekend lasting from June 13-15 was way off as well.

Predictions based on tracking:

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DreamWorks Animation family sequel looking at $55 million-$70 million; '22 Jump Street’ at $45 million-$50 million

DreamWorks Animation's 3D family film “How to Train Your Dragon 2” will open between $55 million and $70 million when it hits theaters on June 13, according to pre-release tracking that came on line Thursday.

That's a broad range, but the weekend looks like it will be a big one at the box-office in any case. Sony's “22 Jump Street” is also debuting, and the initial tracking puts the R-rated Channing Tatum-Jonah Hill action comedy at between $45 million and $50 million. The openings are three weeks away and the marketing campaigns are still kicking in, so both films are hoping to build momentum.
http://www.thewrap.com/how-to-train-...x-office-fire/

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As expected, highly-anticipated sequels 22 Jump Street and How to Train Your Dragon 2 took the top two spots at the box office this weekend. It came as quite the surprise, though, that the R-rated comedy easily took first place ahead of the DreamWorks Animation movie.

Playing at 3,306 locations, 22 Jump Street opened to a fantastic $57.1 million this weekend. That's the second-biggest opening ever for an R-rated comedy behind The Hangover Part II, and ahead of hits like Neighbors and Ted. It's also up a whopping 57 percent from 21 Jump Street's $36 million debut in March 2012.

22 Jump Street's strong start is likely due to a combination of goodwill from the first movie and a strong marketing campaign this time around. 21 Jump Street came out just over two years ago—the ideal wait time between a movie and its sequel—and had a strong run thanks in part to good word-of-mouth. That movie promised that stars Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum would be heading to college next, and marketing for the latest entry suggested it was going to deliver on that promise. It also helped that the movie received a strong promotional push from Hill and Tatum, who have each seen their stars rise in recent years.

In second place, DreamWorks Animation's How to Train Your Dragon 2 opened to $49.5 million. That's an improvement over the first movie's $43.7 million, though it's far from the type of gain expected given the fact that the first Dragon is only of the most beloved animated movies of the past decade. It's also the first June animated release to fall short of $60 million since Ratatouille opened to $47 million back in 2007.

There are likely a few reasons behind Dragon's lackluster debut. First, the movie's marketing positioned it as a dramatic action/adventure, while only hinting at the movie's humor. Historically, the most successful animated movies put laughs first and story second. This calls to mind action-heavy DreamWorks Animation sequel Kung Fu Panda 2, which was unable to leverage goodwill from the first movie in to any kind of sequel bump (it ultimately earned much less than its predecessor).

Another factor is the four-year gap between movies. While audiences loved the first movie at the time, the excitement has surely died down a bit during the long wait. The brand did stay active during that time thanks to the DreamWorks' Dragons show, though that also may have reduced the must-see factor for the big-screen follow-up (if you're seeing these characters for free on TV, is the movie worth the ticket price?).
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3858&p=.htm
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:40 PM   #1178
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How/when exactly did Halle Berry derail this thread?

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As someone who wasn't impressed by TF4's marketing and absolutely hated the movie, I never imagined it would turn out to be the biggest film of the summer.
To be fair though, TF4's only real competition was Edge of Tomorrow and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Maybe How to Train Your Dragon 2. TF was easily going to beat all of those.
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:59 PM   #1179
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If this were truly a Liebesman film, as so many people are quick to point out when I refer to this as a Michael Bay film, I wouldn't even consider the possibility of TMNT opening to #1. However, Michael Bay draws more of a crowd than I'll ever understand. As someone who wasn't impressed by TF4's marketing and absolutely hated the movie, I never imagined it would turn out to be the biggest film of the summer.
It's really all about the Asian market. Giant robots + cars = successful in the box office overseas and Transformers serves up both quite nicely. That said, we'll have to see how well they receive Guardians.

And that's something you have to remember. There are two measurements in August.

Guardians of the Galaxy - #1 at the box office opening weekend

TMNT - #1 at the box office opening weekend in the US
Guardians of the Galaxy - #1 at the box office two weeks in a row

Then it has to beat Expendables for 3 weeks at #1

With TMNT not having a worldwide premiere, the above is very possible.
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Article from Deadline on GOTG's potential box office. They don't think TMNT will pose any threat to GOTG at all. They think GOTG could be the #1 movie for 4 weeks in a row if it can beat Expendables 3 in the third week.

http://m.deadline.com/2014/07/guardi...medium=twitter
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