TMNT Animated Atrocities - Page 2

The-Shredder · 07-20-2014, 05:39 PM

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2k3:
Reflections. Like Blast from the Past, just a pointless clip show. It all just feels forced, as well.
Any episode with Garbageman. Light on the action and humor, and the villain has no motive nor belongs in the 2k3 series.

I agree wholeheartedly about those Nick episodes. I don't know why so many cartoons in the past decade, especially on Nick and CN, always rely on gross out humor.

As for 4Kids, I have a mixed reception about Reflections as well, but I have to disagree about the Garbageman episodes. I don't remember much about the second Garbageman episode, but I really enjoyed the first one. It showed the Turtle's relationship with the homeless, which I thought was pretty cool. It had a good balance of humor and action, such as the running gag with the other Turtle's one-liners being better than Michelangelo's, or the pursuit with the garbage truck and the Battle Shell. Overall, in my opinion it was a fun episode.

Cryomancer · 07-20-2014, 11:32 PM

Wasn't Garbageman supposed to get another episode that was deemed "too hardcore" or whatever? Presumably they had somewhere they wanted to go with him, but having what was probably an important episode for the character arc cut down made them less likely to do anything else with him and so on.

*CyberCubed* · 07-20-2014, 11:36 PM

The first Garbageman episode was fine, it was a remake of a B:TAS episode. It was the second one that was terrible.

*victory_angel* · 07-21-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Wasn't Garbageman supposed to get another episode that was deemed "too hardcore" or whatever? Presumably they had somewhere they wanted to go with him, but having what was probably an important episode for the character arc cut down made them less likely to do anything else with him and so on.

Yeah there was suppose to be a story line in the lost season where it was revealed that Hun and Garbageman used to be conjoined twins. The two of them were separated by a back-alley surgeon, and Hun was kept but Garbageman was tossed in the trash. The story was scrapped because it was felt to be too dark.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-21-2014, 09:17 AM

Pretty awful idea anyway. When your writers are cribbing story ideas from "Basket Case" you know you're pumping a dry well.

Panther10 · 07-21-2014, 10:48 AM

"Shredder's Mother" ranks high on the list.

Aaronardo · 07-21-2014, 10:50 AM

Can't believe this just occurred to me, but ANY episode to do with Zach from the OT besides "Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe".

~~Leo656~~ · 07-21-2014, 10:52 AM

Man, that kid gets so much hate. Someone needs to bring him back as the "unloved sidekick-turned-master super-villain."

*CyberCubed* · 07-21-2014, 10:56 AM

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Can't believe this just occurred to me, but ANY episode to do with Zach from the OT besides "Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe".

He was in Shredderville, night of the rogues, a Rat king episode and Wingnut/Screwloose episodes, so I don't know why you're hating on his eps.

Most of them were great.

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Originally Posted by Panther10

"Shredder's Mother" ranks high on the list.

Lol, this was one of the best episodes of the OT.

Aaronardo · 07-21-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

He was in Shredderville, night of the rogues, a Rat king episode and Wingnut/Screwloose episodes, so I don't know why you're hating on his eps.

Most of them were great.

I meant when the episodes were revolved around him, not when he was pushed to the side as a supporting character in one act like Night of the Rogues and Shredderville. Zach and the Alien Invaders, in my opinion, was pretty bad and other episodes that revolved around him were terrible as well.

*CyberCubed* · 07-21-2014, 11:17 AM

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I meant when the episodes were revolved around him, not when he was pushed to the side as a supporting character in one act like Night of the Rogues and Shredderville. Zach and the Alien Invaders, in my opinion, was pretty bad and other episodes that revolved around him were terrible as well.

Zach starred in around 5 episodes and appeared in 7 overall. I liked the Wingnut episode and The Great Boldini wasn't bad either.

Metropoliskid41 · 07-21-2014, 11:44 AM

Zach didn't really bother me, I find him more standable than Irma usually, and as far as annoying kids in action cartoon series goes, he is no where near the top. Daniel from Transformers, and every other kid used in a TF animated series since Spike in the first 2 seasons of Generation One have been awful.

Didn't know they had that planned for Hun & Garbageman, man I love that concept, I would have loved to see where they would have taken both characters after revealing that. It could've been a great arc. I really dig Hun, so anytime they could flesh out his backstory and add more depth it was a plus (in my eyes at least).

*Prowler* · 07-21-2014, 01:51 PM

Zach and the Neutrinos were mostly annoying in their first couple of eps. I guess the OT had some character development after all.

Then again, the older I get, the less I hate them. I wonder if I was just jealous that a few kids my age were hanging out with the turtles...

*CyberCubed* · 07-21-2014, 01:54 PM

The Neutrinos never bothered me. I can understand not liking their lingo but as characters I had no problem with them.

*Prowler* · 07-21-2014, 01:56 PM

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The Neutrinos never bothered me. I can understand not liking their lingo but as characters I had no problem with them.

It was the voices, I guess. Plus, when I was a little kid I REALLY disliked the idea of romance in my cartoons. I wanted action, not KalaxMikey flirts.

Donnieangelo · 07-21-2014, 02:08 PM

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The Neutrinos never bothered me. I can understand not liking their lingo but as characters I had no problem with them.

I love the Neutrinos, too!

*Prowler* · 07-21-2014, 02:12 PM

The Gang's All Here was one of my least favorite episodes as well. The concept was interesting but poorly executed. How the hell did Mike lose his "turtle powers"? What powers? His martial arts abilities? Those aren't powers he gained out of the blue.

Aaronardo · 07-21-2014, 02:35 PM

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The Gang's All Here was one of my least favorite episodes as well. The concept was interesting but poorly executed. How the hell did Mike lose his "turtle powers"? What powers? His martial arts abilities? Those aren't powers he gained out of the blue.

I think the idea was that he was in a different body so he didn't have as much time to adjust to it. I can only guess, though, as it is never explained.

**Jester** · 07-21-2014, 02:37 PM

Most of the Toddler Turtle episodes from 4Kids (except Tales of Leo) make me groan....mainly because they scrap continuity....or at least bend it really hard.

*Prowler* · 07-21-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Most of the Toddler Turtle episodes from 4Kids (except Tales of Leo) make me groan....mainly because they scrap continuity....or at least bend it really hard.

I didn't like the couple of ones from the FW toon either. Well, the one where Shredder has to work with that other alien is alright. The island one was mediocre.

07-20-2014, 11:32 PM	#22
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Wasn't Garbageman supposed to get another episode that was deemed "too hardcore" or whatever? Presumably they had somewhere they wanted to go with him, but having what was probably an important episode for the character arc cut down made them less likely to do anything else with him and so on. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

07-21-2014, 10:50 AM	#27
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,043	Can't believe this just occurred to me, but ANY episode to do with Zach from the OT besides "Bebop and Rocksteady Conquer the Universe". __________________ "Shredder, you gotta listen to reason!" - Leonardo "Oh Turtles! Oh Turtles! Chew your gum properly." "If I miss this week's Kirby, heads are gonna roll." - Raphael "The Biosites have almost finished healing my flesh." - Shredder "Because we're takin' the heart and you're goin' to jail!" - Donatello

07-21-2014, 11:44 AM	#32
Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Zach didn't really bother me, I find him more standable than Irma usually, and as far as annoying kids in action cartoon series goes, he is no where near the top. Daniel from Transformers, and every other kid used in a TF animated series since Spike in the first 2 seasons of Generation One have been awful. Didn't know they had that planned for Hun & Garbageman, man I love that concept, I would have loved to see where they would have taken both characters after revealing that. It could've been a great arc. I really dig Hun, so anytime they could flesh out his backstory and add more depth it was a plus (in my eyes at least). __________________ -------------------

07-21-2014, 02:37 PM	#39
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Most of the Toddler Turtle episodes from 4Kids (except Tales of Leo) make me groan....mainly because they scrap continuity....or at least bend it really hard. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-20-2014, 11:36 PM	#23
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	The first Garbageman episode was fine, it was a remake of a B:TAS episode. It was the second one that was terrible.

07-21-2014, 09:17 AM	#25
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Pretty awful idea anyway. When your writers are cribbing story ideas from "Basket Case" you know you're pumping a dry well.

07-21-2014, 10:48 AM	#26
Panther10 Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 295	"Shredder's Mother" ranks high on the list.

07-21-2014, 10:52 AM	#28
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Man, that kid gets so much hate. Someone needs to bring him back as the "unloved sidekick-turned-master super-villain."

07-21-2014, 01:51 PM	#33
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	Zach and the Neutrinos were mostly annoying in their first couple of eps. I guess the OT had some character development after all. Then again, the older I get, the less I hate them. I wonder if I was just jealous that a few kids my age were hanging out with the turtles...

07-21-2014, 01:54 PM	#34
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	The Neutrinos never bothered me. I can understand not liking their lingo but as characters I had no problem with them.

07-21-2014, 02:12 PM	#37
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	The Gang's All Here was one of my least favorite episodes as well. The concept was interesting but poorly executed. How the hell did Mike lose his "turtle powers"? What powers? His martial arts abilities? Those aren't powers he gained out of the blue.