If Venus show up in this movie or the sequel, how you will react?

[Sumac]

Not liking her because she's a 5th turtle is a weak reason...there are far more reasons that make far more sense to hate her.

To the point where she shouldn't be even given any kind of second chance?

I think having only four Turtles is sacred

Nothing should be sacred in the story as long as changes have good execution.

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by Sumac

To the point where she shouldn't be even given any kind of second chance?


Nothing should be sacred in the story as long as changes have good execution.

I truly don't care how good they execute it, a fifth Turtle is stupid that's the only reason i hated Venus, there should only be FOUR turtles!!

[Sumac]

I truly don't care how good they execute it, a fifth Turtle is stupid that's the only reason i hated Venus, there should only be FOUR turtles!!

Narrow mindendness is narrow mindedness.

Whatever.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

i find it funny that a good chunk of the people preaching "Give TMNT 2014 a chance" refuse to give Venus a chance of redemption

[Glados]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i find it funny that a good chunk of the people preaching "Give TMNT 2014 a chance" refuse to give Venus a chance of redemption

Nah, not quite the same, Boston (not saying that anyone should give the 2014 movie a chance if they don't feel like it, but still not a good comparison) I think a lot of the resistance comes from that she was kind of a Mary Sue. She was introduced to be something to lust over for the turtles (sudden "we're not biological brothers" plot-twist) and she had a bland personality and hardly any flaws and quirks. She was very... hollow and felt like such a forced and unnecessary addition. I think many aren't necessarily against a female turtle, just against that female turtle.

Except for me among others, I really prefer the TMNT being the iconic foursome. Much due to the fact that I very easily see the introduction of a female turtle just as girlfriend-bait for the turtles and it could very easily take over a bit too much. I'm kinda on board with Laird: keep romance to an absolute minimum, the TMNT is about brotherhood and fun/action.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Glados

Nah, not quite the same, Boston (not saying that anyone should give the 2014 movie a chance if they don't feel like it, but still not a good comparison) I think a lot of the resistance comes from that she was kind of a Mary Sue. She was introduced to be something to lust over for the turtles (sudden "we're not biological brothers" plot-twist) and she had a bland personality and hardly any flaws and quirks. She was very... hollow and felt like such a forced and unnecessary addition. I think many aren't necessarily against a female turtle, just against that female turtle.

Except for me among others, I really prefer the TMNT being the iconic foursome. Much due to the fact that I very easily see the introduction of a female turtle just as girlfriend-bait for the turtles and it could very easily take over a bit too much. I'm kinda on board with Laird: keep romance to an absolute minimum, the TMNT is about brotherhood and fun/action.

And that was due to the writing..the character is there why not give her a second chance...in every turtles property we see chacters return written vary differently from the past...aside from the 4 brothers some make complete 180s..how many aprils do we have..shredders?


and what is the difference if its another female turtle? its still a female turtle..why not use someone who is there and redeem her...Karai in the nick show wouldve been a perfect choice even if it was just a small thing till she was "Healed"

blaming a character to be doomed forever because of bad writing isnt fair to what someone with talent can do..ive seen and read fan art and fics that make venus an amazing character removing all those points people dont like


she doesnt have to be the core group..just make her some sort of ally